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hello,

in short - what would be your recommendations for efficient use of osx, pc or mac (mac mini or iBook G4)?

i must say mac mini is more expensive than pc, like additional ~270 USD, or iBook G4, which is about the same price as pc, though looses quite a lot in specs.

 

so here are the pc specs:

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processor: intel pentium D 920 (or core duo 1.66?)

motherboard: Intel D945GNTLKR

RAM: APACER AM1 2x512Mb DDR2 667Mhz

CD: lite-on DVDR (SHW-160P6S-02C)

HDD: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 160Gb 7200rpm SATA (ST3160812AS)

 

you know mac mini :guitar:

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1.66GHz Core Duo, ram 512, hdd 80Gb, SD.

or iBook G4

 

primary equirement is to get stable osx, so everything would be supported, not like on my old pc - no sound, ethernet and 1024x768@60Hz. sencondly - performance (i'm planning to learn cocoa, and i'm using a lot graphics software). if iBook G4 or mac mini, then of course i'll keep my windows xp for graph :/

and i'm thinking about future, about updates and osx 10.5.. .

 

which one would you recommend? and maybe there's some more compatible pc hardware?

 

thank you!

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It's easy to get OS X on PC, but I think it's still hard to get it work 100%, even when all the hardware are supported. like safari and M$ word crashed many times on my laptop. the one advantage PC has is dual booting . If you decide you wont be needing windows at all, I'd suggest you go with MAC, either ibook or mini I dont know, I've never had a MAC

It's easy to get OS X on PC, but I think it's still hard to get it work 100%, even when all the hardware are supported. like safari and M$ word crashed many times on my laptop. the one advantage PC has is dual booting . If you decide you wont be needing windows at all, I'd suggest you go with MAC, either ibook or mini I dont know, I've never had a MAC

 

i agree with you, only dual boot can be set on intel macs too. but of course windows (and computing resource hungry apps) will run much smoother on this pc, than on mac mini. and in case with iBook G4 i still need my old pc.

question is about computing power against stability, considering price i can afford.

 

thank you for answer

naaa

The best thing about a OSX86 mobo is.. you can upgrade in the future!!!

 

 

im sure that bests any mac around, i have this mobo:

 

MB Intel 945 PSL

CPU Intel 930D (3.0GHZ Dual Core)

2 GB Corsair Value RAM DDR2@667

Zalman CPU 9500 Cooler

320 GB SATA2 7200 RPM HD

ASUS X1600XT Silent Version (sophisticated passive cooling)

Case Thermaltake all aluminum Tsunami Dream

Thermaltake 450 PowerSupply

Pioneer 11D DVDRW DL (It reads as superdrive)

Firewire Sound and Network on board

 

My computer is 100% functiuonal and outpase any MAC in the market, and i will upgrade it later to a merom System.... So, yes the mac is prettier

 

BUT, my mobo looks awesome (complemented with APPLE USB Keyboard and Mighty Mouse and a Sony Flat Panel.), and is silent as dead itlself :poster_oops:

 

I recommend an osx86 mobo if you are thinking in upgrading in the future.

 

Regards

Aberracus

primary equirement is to get stable osx, so everything would be supported, not like on my old pc - no sound, ethernet and 1024x768@60Hz. sencondly - performance (i'm planning to learn cocoa, and i'm using a lot graphics software). if iBook G4 or mac mini, then of course i'll keep my windows xp for graph :/

and i'm thinking about future, about updates and osx 10.5.. .

 

For your needs, I think you will be better off building your own. But remember, in the next few months Woodcrest, Conroe and Merom will be released making all Intel chips now availbile rather obsolete.

 

 

 

It's easy to get OS X on PC, but I think it's still hard to get it work 100%, even when all the hardware are supported. like safari and M$ word crashed many times on my laptop.

 

No, you do not have the "right" set of hardware. Nothing ever crashes on my OSx86 box, and I mean nothing. I have not any system instability since I updated to 10.4.5 two months ago.

 

the one advantage PC has is dual booting . If you decide you wont be needing windows at all, I'd suggest you go with MAC, either ibook or mini I dont know, I've never had a MAC

 

Umm... haven't you heard of BootCamp?

OSX on intel works really well if:

Your motherboard is fully (or nearlly fully) compatible. (945gntlkr is one of the best)

You wait for system software upgrades - until they are tested, hacked or there is a work around.

You are patient for drivers.

You have a clue.

 

Is the time spent on getting OSX to work on "non-mac" hardware worth the extra time and effort. For me yes. For most people no.

Get the mac you wont regret it, i got a macbook pro and luv it

 

if i could afford mac book pro, i certainly would buy one ;)

 

naaa

The best thing about a OSX86 mobo is.. you can upgrade in the future!!!

im sure that bests any mac around, i have this mobo:

 

MB Intel 945 PSL

CPU Intel 930D (3.0GHZ Dual Core)

2 GB Corsair Value RAM DDR2@667

Zalman CPU 9500 Cooler

320 GB SATA2 7200 RPM HD

ASUS X1600XT Silent Version (sophisticated passive cooling)

Case Thermaltake all aluminum Tsunami Dream

Thermaltake 450 PowerSupply

Pioneer 11D DVDRW DL (It reads as superdrive)

Firewire Sound and Network on board

 

My computer is 100% functiuonal and outpase any MAC in the market, and i will upgrade it later to a merom System.... So, yes the mac is prettier

 

BUT, my mobo looks awesome (complemented with APPLE USB Keyboard and Mighty Mouse and a Sony Flat Panel.), and is silent as dead itlself :)

 

I recommend an osx86 mobo if you are thinking in upgrading in the future.

 

Regards

Aberracus

 

thank you for answer!

three questions :D -

does osx fully support your ASUS x1600XT? for example 1600x1200@75Hz?

merom is core2 duo or something new? your mombo will support the new processor?

Should i buy core duo t2300 or pentium D 920?

thank you.

 

OSX on intel works really well if:

Your motherboard is fully (or nearlly fully) compatible. (945gntlkr is one of the best)

You wait for system software upgrades - until they are tested, hacked or there is a work around.

You are patient for drivers.

You have a clue.

 

Is the time spent on getting OSX to work on "non-mac" hardware worth the extra time and effort. For me yes. For most people no.

 

thank you for your answer.

i agree that most people won't spend they precious time to get osx on pc, what bothers me is - will i be able to get full compability and stay somewhat up to date with version (for example Macworld UK: Apple closes down OS X)

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