ludacrisvp Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 According to http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC002ZM/A?mco=MzE2OTkzMQ The new graphics card for the Mac Pro 09 doesn't work in the Early 08 or original Mac Pro.... WTF? I can understand the EFI 32 mac pro not having the option but the 08 not being allowed because it doesnt have DDR3? "Compatibility: Requires Mac Pro (Early 2009 with 1066MHz DDR3 memory) with PCI Express 2.0 slot Requires Mac OS X v10.5.6 or later" How long will the Mac Pro users need to wait this time to get a better video card again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netkas Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Nvidia rom is always 32-bit or 64-bit efi rom, last time releasing 32-bit efi rom took some time for apple I have no idea why 64-bit efi rom of gt120 (9500gt) wouldnt work in 2008 mp. btw, efi part of rom for 2600xt was writen in EBC (Efi Byte Code), a platform independent code, so it worked in earlier MP, i guess same will be for 4870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludacrisvp Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 So does that mean that the chances are high that it would work in the early 08 MP or that Apple will most likely release one modified for us? Also is that GT120 better for gaming in Windows than the 8800GT I have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Er_nordico Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Well... if u consider that a GT is just a renamed 9500... you will have an answer (i would definitly stay with the 8800) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houd.ini Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 The 8800gt is much better, stay with it. Damn Nvidia renaming, I actually thought the GT120 was a renamed 8800GT, had to do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netkas Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 renamed 8800GT is 9800GT is GTS 240 (poor card, renamed twice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludacrisvp Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 That is dumb... oh well I guess we will just have to wait and see if anything officially compatible ever tops the 8800gt in the mac pro... I dont like the new naming scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 That is dumb... oh well I guess we will just have to wait and see if anything officially compatible ever tops the 8800gt in the mac pro... The newly released ATI 4870 - Available for the old Mac Pro too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludacrisvp Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 I have stayed away from ATI for a few years is that card better than the 8800GT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Oh yes http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341 Full review - but skip to the tests, it puts the smack down on the 8800gt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludacrisvp Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Oh yeshttp://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341 Full review - but skip to the tests, it puts the smack down on the 8800gt You were not kidding at all (8800GT info from http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=3 ) .............................ATI Radeon HD 4870...........8800GT Stream Processors ...........800 ............................112 Texture Units ....................40 ..............................56 ROPs.................................16 ..............................16 Core Clock........................750MHz .......................600Mhz Memory Clock 900MHz GDDR5(3600MHz data rate).....900Mhz GDDR3 (1800Mhz data rate) Memory Bus Width ...........256-bit....................... 256-bit Frame Buffer................... 512MB ........................512MB Transistor Count ..............956M ..........................754M Manufacturing Process TSMC 55nm ...............TSMC 65nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 mmm...don't be fooled - ATI uses much more stream processors, but they're a different type. Just because the 4870- has 800 stream processors doesn't mean the 4870 is 7 times faster! But look at the gaming benchmarks later in the article. It will give you a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSx86_virgin Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Netkas, Given that the 09 MB's use the 9500GT (GT120), what are the chances that using a 9500 in a Hack Pro would work right out of the box? Am putting together my Hack Pro soon and have 2 9500's from my old system. Thanks so very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 9500GT Works. http://www.google.co.za/search?rlz=1C1GGLS...insanelymac.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartont Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The gt120 works in my dell inspiron 530 quad. its one from my new mac pro. As stated, the gt120 is a 9500 relabeled. I think an excellent card for a hackintosh is the asus en9600gt silent. It only needs an efi string to boot and is not ati junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForNeverEnding Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Hey, according to this blog, the gt 120 is unofficially supported by 800 Mhz Mac Pros: http://blog.macsales.com/602-testing-those...-graphics-cards and this user (comment at the bottom of the above post) has pictures of his 2008 mac pro with dual 24" LED Displays: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29145848@N04/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihto Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Can this http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC002ZM/...MA&s=newest MAC Nvidia GT120 work in PC(hackintosh) Q6600,abit x38 but only for OS-X? I want to put it because of the MAC LED 24'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihto Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Can this http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC002ZM/...MA&s=newest MAC Nvidia GT120 work in PC(hackintosh) Q6600,abit x38 but only for OS-X? I want to put it because of the MAC LED 24'' bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paduck Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have the Apple GT120 working on a Hackintosh running on the GA EP45-DS3R motherboard using an EFI string on boot. The card is recognized as a true Apple card. I don't have a 24" Apple LED monitor yet, so I cannot verify that it works with the MiniDisplayPort yet. I plan on getting one in the next six months and will post an update then. I used the OSx86Tools to create a custom EFI string. The NVCAP string I used to generate it was: 0400000000000300000000000000000700000000 I had a lot of help from this thread: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...amp;mode=linear Look especially at posts #39 (for the procedure) and #95 (to get the right NVCAP string). To blatantly steal from SnarkNL: - Open OSX86Tools - Add EFI Strings - Click on GFX Strings - Choose Custom GeForce (you need to scroll the list) - Enter your video card name (in my case: "nVidia GeForce GT120" - enter memory size (in my case: "512MB") - NOW choosing your display configuration, choose "Custom..." - Enter the custom NVCAP string: ("0400000000000300000000000000000700000000") A hex string will be generated for you to put into the com.apple.Boot.plist file in your /Extras folder. My file looks like this with the long hex string added at the appropriate point marked: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1344x840x60</string> <key>Kernel</key> <string>mach_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string>x32</string> <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> <key>device-properties</key> <string>INSERT EFI STRING HERE</string> </dict> </plist> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricci Gilson Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I have the Apple GT120 working on a Hackintosh running on the GA EP45-DS3R motherboard using an EFI string on boot. The card is recognized as a true Apple card. I don't have a 24" Apple LED monitor yet, so I cannot verify that it works with the MiniDisplayPort yet. I plan on getting one in the next six months and will post an update then. I used the OSx86Tools to create a custom EFI string. The NVCAP string I used to generate it was: 0400000000000300000000000000000700000000 I had a lot of help from this thread: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...amp;mode=linear Look especially at posts #39 (for the procedure) and #95 (to get the right NVCAP string). To blatantly steal from SnarkNL: - Open OSX86Tools - Add EFI Strings - Click on GFX Strings - Choose Custom GeForce (you need to scroll the list) - Enter your video card name (in my case: "nVidia GeForce GT120" - enter memory size (in my case: "512MB") - NOW choosing your display configuration, choose "Custom..." - Enter the custom NVCAP string: ("0400000000000300000000000000000700000000") A hex string will be generated for you to put into the com.apple.Boot.plist file in your /Extras folder. My file looks like this with the long hex string added at the appropriate point marked: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1344x840x60</string> <key>Kernel</key> <string>mach_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string>x32</string> <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> <key>device-properties</key> <string>INSERT EFI STRING HERE</string> </dict> </plist> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Paduck - Thanks for the above information as it was very helpful. I also have the nVidia GeForce GT120 working on a GA-P35-DS31 board. I copied your method above and can now get QE/CI via DVI Port. Many thanks nVidia GeForce 120 GT: Chipset Model: nVidia GeForce 120 GT Type: Display Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0640 Revision ID: 0x00a1 ROM Revision: nVidia GeForce 120 GT OpenGL Engine [EFI] Displays: DELL 1505FP: Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Rotation: Supported Display Connector: Status: No display connected I also had the same idea as you, with the 24 inch Apple Cinema Display. I purchased it the other week! When i use the mini display port adapter i can see the boot loader perfect (1920x1200) and after it finished the screen goes black?!! I thouht u might want to know this information as you said you were getting one in a few months. Also i was wondering if you have any suggestions to get me out of jail ?!!!!! just to add, if i turn on the machine with both DVI + mini Display port i get back (with or without DVI plugged in) on the plus side if i turn on with DVI then add the mini display port once the machine is on the cinema display works perfecto ! ( i am on 10 5 6 ipc ) the below shows :when cinema display is plugged in after boot nVidia GeForce 120 GT: Chipset Model: nVidia GeForce 120 GT Type: Display Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0640 Revision ID: 0x00a1 ROM Revision: nVidia GeForce 120 GT OpenGL Engine [EFI] Displays: DELL 1505FP: Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-Bit Color Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Rotation: Supported LED Cinema Display: Resolution: 1920 x 1200 Depth: 32-Bit Color Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Rotation: Supported Connection Type: DisplayPort many thanks ricci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paduck Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ricci- What is your configuration? I am running SL 10.6.2 with a retail install, EFI string for the graphics card, and ChameleonRC2 as the bootloader. Here is a link where someone had a similar problem as you. It might help. I haven't gotten a 24" LED yet, so I can't say for sure. I am would really like to test one out before I buy, but I think I am going to have to assume the risk... http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=158852&st=0&gopid=1182286entry1182286 My System Profiler looks a little different than yours - it may be monitor dependent or because your are running 10.5: nVidia GeForce GT120: Chipset Model: nVidia GeForce GT120 Type: GPU Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0640 Revision ID: 0x00a1 ROM Revision: nVidia GeForce GT120 OpenGL Engine [EFI] Displays: V223W: Resolution: 1344 x 840 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Display Connector: Status: No Display Connected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricci Gilson Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hello, I am going to DL snow lep tonight, and start fresh. Will get back to you asap. No point with 10 5 x any more. I used Chameleon 2.0 RC2 today with the same results. No luck!!! (YET!)) I removed <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> and it boots via the mini display port with correct resolution but no qi ce again perfect with the DVI port thought! typical ! cheers mate Ricci Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz e6600 @3.0GHz Mobo GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L Gfx nvidia GeForce 120 GT RAM 4X2GB DDR2 800MHz Corsiar WLAN Lynksys with Broardcom driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paduck Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Today I moved around my Samsung HDTV, put on a mini Displayport -> HDMI converter and checked out the GT120 hooked to that monitor/HDTV. Not quite the same as hooking up an Apple 24" LED, but a good test of the mini Displayport. The results were, for the most part, satisfactory. 1. My HDTV and Acer monitor do not really share the same resolutions, so mirroring did not work. 2. Booting with just the HDTV connected worked fine. 3. Setting the monitors up separately, but adjacent to one another worked fine. If I want to splurge on a 24" Apple LED, I have the confidence now that the video out will at least work. I also have a nice connection via 15' HDMI cable to my HDTV, although I will not leave it connected all the time. Hope this helps. Still running Chameleon RC1 and Snow Leopard 10.6.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Anubis Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Today I moved around my Samsung HDTV, put on a mini Displayport -> HDMI converter and checked out the GT120 hooked to that monitor/HDTV. Not quite the same as hooking up an Apple 24" LED, but a good test of the mini Displayport. The results were, for the most part, satisfactory. 1. My HDTV and Acer monitor do not really share the same resolutions, so mirroring did not work. 2. Booting with just the HDTV connected worked fine. 3. Setting the monitors up separately, but adjacent to one another worked fine. If I want to splurge on a 24" Apple LED, I have the confidence now that the video out will at least work. I also have a nice connection via 15' HDMI cable to my HDTV, although I will not leave it connected all the time. Hope this helps. Still running Chameleon RC1 and Snow Leopard 10.6.2. @you and @ALL Any difference with the current 10.6.4 or found new things to get it working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Hi, Is it possible to get a nVidia MSI 9500 GT (this one) working on a Mac Pro running Snow Leopard? Thanks, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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