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This summer, I'm going to reformat my Dell Latitude D610 and dual-boot Windows XP Pro and OSX. I'm going to back up all of my data and completely blank this drive. I have an 80 gig hard drive in this laptop. I have some questions..

 

1. How should I partition the drive? I plan to spend most of my time in Windows, with some fiddling in OSX, but I would like to have enough room for OSX to install some programs. Also, can I keep my data files (MP3s, movies, etc.) on my NTFS Windows drive and have OSX read them?

 

2. Which OS should I install first?

 

3. I am getting MaxOSX_10.4.4DVDPATCHED_Myz.iso. Are there any other necessities I should get? Any patches or such things?

 

4. I'm doing this on a laptop - the Dell Latitude D610. Is there anything special I should know about that? I have the Dell wireless card, which I think is Broadcom based - will that work? Are there drivers for my ATI Radeon X300? I saw something about needing an external monitor but was confused - is that only for install or to use OSX?

 

I know some of these are newbie questions, but I want to make sure I do this right from the beginning. If there are answers to these questions elsewhere, a bump in the right direction would be great. The wiki is a good resource, but I want to make sure I have the most up-to-date information. Any good recent tutorial that I should follow?

 

Thanks so much in advance.

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Sipheren
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I gave os x 80GB plus a 40GB space drive, but I'm sure you wouldnt need much more than 10GB..

 

I use the Win XP boot.ini file to dual boot, just add this line:

c:\CHAIN0="Apple Mac OS X x86"

 

and put this file in your root directory of XP (c:)

 

Oh and I had XP installed already...for you I would install XP then OS.....

CHAIN0.zip

Gato_shin
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I gave os x 80GB plus a 40GB space drive, but I'm sure you wouldnt need much more than 10GB..

 

I use the Win XP boot.ini file to dual boot, just add this line:

c:\CHAIN0="Apple Mac OS X x86"

 

and put this file in your root directory of XP (c:)

 

Oh and I had XP installed already...for you I would install XP then OS.....

 

 

Sounds intrest... I'm trying to make up a duel boot... Maybe your CHAIN0 may help...

Vampire666
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I gave os x 80GB plus a 40GB space drive, but I'm sure you wouldnt need much more than 10GB..

 

I use the Win XP boot.ini file to dual boot, just add this line:

c:\CHAIN0="Apple Mac OS X x86"

 

and put this file in your root directory of XP (c:)

 

Oh and I had XP installed already...for you I would install XP then OS.....

 

I tried as you said, but when I choose Apple Mac OS X x86, nothing happens.

P.S. By the way how can the file CHAIN0 know in wich drive/partition look for the MaxOS X?

I've installed MacOS X on a partition on the primary/master HD. Windows is on a Sata drive.

 

Maybe I have to put the CHAIN0 file in the hd where I have installed MACOS X, and not in the HD where I've installed WinXP?

Sipheren
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that file does just go in the main windows directory, (c:) should be with the boot.ini file.

 

I have had OSX on 2 different drives and it hasnt made any difference as long as you boot from with windows drive as to use the boot.ini file.

 

I have come seen that message you get though, I think ACPI is for laptops, if on a PC it should use x86pc or something, mine never had that problem....

 

Cheers

92GTA
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I have a 60GB in my notebook. I used PartitionMagic 8 to resize my XP partition down to 38GB and I now show 19GB as "Unallocated".

 

Am I right in thinking I can now boot from the OS X DVD, run Disk Utility and format the unallocated space for OS X, install, then put that CHAIN0 file in my main C:\ and add C:\CHAIN0="Apple Mac OS X x86" to my boot.ini and I'll be good to go?

 

I just want to be sure. I mean will the machine by default boot back into Windows for me to do that after the OS X install of what? Do I need to do this from scratch and perform the OS X install first?

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: I used PM 8 again and formatted the unallocated space for Linux ext2 and did not set it active. I figure for sure the OS X Disk Utility will see that and allow me to format it. Then I copied the CHAIN0 file to me root directory and my boot.ini now looks like this:

 

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[boot loader]

timeout=15

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Pro SP2" /fastdetect

C:\CHAIN0="Apple OS X Tiger 10.4.6"

 

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As soon as my 10.4.6 download completes I'll boot from it and perform the OS X install. Hopefully all goes well...

Sipheren
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The linux utility will see NTFS drives as well....I havent got OSX and XP ont he same drive anymore but I did at one stage and I used a linux install to boot them with grub, it should still work with the chain file with how your going to do it, just be careful that OSX doesnt write over your current XP boot loader and not let you back into windows.

 

Cheers

 

 

Sipheren

92GTA
92GTA
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Well do NOT do what I decribed doing. It FUBAR'd my XP install. I then formatted the HD, booted into the OS X install then Disk Utility. Created an OS X partition and a FAT32 partition. The OS X install went great so then I tried installing XP, even leaving it FAT32. After the XP installer copies the files needed and reboots, I get a no windows installation detected error.

 

I'm going to start searching and see what I can find about doing this...

/es
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If you want to install windows xp and mac os x together on the same hard drive I suggest that you set up 3 primary partitions, 1 as a type AF filesystem for you OS X installation, 1 small linux partition ( about 32 megs is good) formatted to the ext2 filesystem to boot up from GRUB , and then your windows xp partition as ntfs, fat32 or whatever you like.

 

Just make sure that you install GRUB, which is a bootloader btw, correctly. By that, I mean to the correct hard drive. After that, you should chainload both you Mac OS X and windows XP so you can boot from them in your grub.conf file.

slipstream
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how do I make the partition active WITHOUT partion magic ?

 

I had it working.. upgraded osx and now xp boots has chain0 and boot.ini modded as before but when choosing osx from the windows bootloader it does absolutley nothing. I am assuming that somehow in the upgrade fromt eh dvd process that it has become inactive.. any ideas or suggestions?

 

 

cheers

slipstream
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Just figured it out. When you select OS X and it simply flashes back to the menu, you have to VERY quickly hit F8 right after selecting OS X to get the Darwin menu...

 

You are a genius !!

thanks

 

now why would this be? hmm maybe it has darwins timeout set to like 1 second or something i wonder if there is someway to adjust this if I have assumed correctly ?

slipstream
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Yeah I think we have to edit the boot.plist

 

hmm maybe insteresing mine hangs at the main screen now so i have to try a reinstall again but this jas 10.4.6 doesnt seem to like my system yet I had 10.4.5 before and did the upgrade with the extensions and frameworks disabled and it ran sweet

I cant figure where the customize install menu is to try a few different options

92GTA
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Ok, for the original poster, here is what I did for a fresh dual boot install:

 

Boot from the OS X DVD and when the installer begins use the Disk Utility to partition the HD with 2 partitions. the top one make it MS DOS, make the bottom one the OS X. Mount that partition, close Disk Utility and procede with the install.

 

After installing OS X, boot from the XP CD and during the XP setup, delete the MS DOS partition and select to install in the unparitioned space and select NTFS. After installing XP, edit the boot.ini as how was already mentioned and put the CHAIN0 file where was mentioned. Reboot and then when you select OS X from the menu, hit F8 REALLY quick and then you can select the OS X install.

 

I'm using the new JaS 10.4.6 DVD and it works perfectly for me, better than any other install actually. It's MUCH faster. I'm going to reinstall 10.4.3 though to get some kexts I need to get stuff working in .6

92GTA
92GTA
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what kexts do u need off 10.4.3 .. I am curious incase i need something myself

I never new the later ones where missing certain kexts

 

Lol, I'm not quite sure yet. I'm still downloading 10.4.3 and I've never run anything other than .5 & now .6

 

I always had problems with my audio though, it kinda worked but for the most part didn't. From searching I was hoping that the audio kext from .3 would help, most say it's does. Same for my ethernet and PCMCIA. I'm just going to load .3 for the heck of it and see if it does help. Then I'll move on to advanced editing kexts to get my stuff to work.

Phil H
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You guys seem to know what your talking about, so i have a few questions, and I appreciate the help. I have downloaded 10.4.5 about 4 times all being corrupt after the dl, BUT i have a working 10.4.3 install disk. After reformatting my comp severl time over several weeks, I FINALLY read a bit more online and got my dual boot to work, the way you mention (hitting f8 really fast, lol). Now, in 10.4.3 is there a way I can set my resolution to 1280x800 and have it work on a intel integrated controller? I read online somewhere some guy said he hacked the kexts and got it running even with the extreme functionality. Ive added the lines to usr/library/....boot.plist and still reverts to 1024x768. Also, did you guys figure out a way to not have to really quickly f8? something a bit more leisurely? hah thanks guys

  • 5 months later...
bkny1055
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Here you PHIL H

 

Getting ready

 

It would be a good idea to backup your entire Extensions directory before proceeding just in case you royally mess up anything.

 

sudo –su cp -R /System/Library/Extensions /System/Library/ExtensionsBackup

 

Part 1, Callisto Installation

 

I used b006 for installation purposes. It's available on Omni's website. <-tried Callisto_008 but did not work, Tried Callisto_003 and screen crashed with Hz off range so Callisto_006 was the way to go

 

After extracting b006, Look in the folder for CallistoHAL.kext. Right-Click on this file and go to Show Package Contents. Double click on Contents, and then drag Info.plist to TextEdit in the dock.

((((((((when I needed to make changes to info.plist files I just dragged it to the desktop, then dragged the one from the desktop to the TextEdit, made changes, saved it, dragged it back to where it came from, it will ask authenticate, put in password, and replace)))))))))

Find

<key>IOPCIMatch</key>

<string>0x41501002&0xffffffff</string>

 

and change it to

<key>IOPCIMatch</key>

<string>0x554d1002&0xffffffff</string>

 

Make sure you replace 554d with whatever your specific Device ID is, which is avaliable in System Profiler, and then save and close the file.

 

Open up another Terminal window, and type (or copy) this into Terminal:

 

sudo -s

cd ~/Desktop I downloaded to my desktop

chown -R root:wheel Callisto*

chmod -R 755 Callisto*

cp -R Callisto* /System/Library/Extensions/

rm -f /Library/Preferences/com.apple.window*

rm -f /Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.window*

rm -f /Library/Preferences/ByHost/com.apple.pref*

rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

rm /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache

 

Enter your password when prompted

 

Reboot your computer and make sure you can set new resolutions before continuing.

 

This got me the resolution

I changed my resolution to 1600x1200@60hz swwweeeett

 

 

Now

Part 2, QE/CI Installation

 

Navigate to /System/Library/Extensions, locate ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin, right-click and go to Show Package Contents. Double click on Contents, and then drag Info.plist to TextEdit in the dock

 

Find

<key>IOProviderClass</key>

<string>IONDRVFramebuffer</string>

 

and change it to

<key>IOProviderClass</key>

<string>CallistoFB</string>

 

Save and close the file.

 

Open up another Terminal window, and type (or copy) this into Terminal:

 

sudo -s

chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin/

chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeon9700GA.plugin/

 

Enter your password when prompted.

 

Rebooted and now I have QE, CI and OpenGL with mouse tearing

Running at 1600x1200@60hz

 

I did not make any changes to the

/System/Library/Extensions/ locate ATIRadeon9700.kext because my card is a 9800PRO and numbers show up as being included in the ATIRadeon9700.kext

Only took me a week or so LOL but dame it feels good

  • 5 weeks later...
Cskills
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Ok, for the original poster, here is what I did for a fresh dual boot install:

 

Boot from the OS X DVD and when the installer begins use the Disk Utility to partition the HD with 2 partitions. the top one make it MS DOS, make the bottom one the OS X. Mount that partition, close Disk Utility and procede with the install.

 

After installing OS X, boot from the XP CD and during the XP setup, delete the MS DOS partition and select to install in the unparitioned space and select NTFS. After installing XP, edit the boot.ini as how was already mentioned and put the CHAIN0 file where was mentioned. Reboot and then when you select OS X from the menu, hit F8 REALLY quick and then you can select the OS X install.

 

I'm using the new JaS 10.4.6 DVD and it works perfectly for me, better than any other install actually. It's MUCH faster. I'm going to reinstall 10.4.3 though to get some kexts I need to get stuff working in .6

 

Is there a workaround for the F8 quick hit issue?

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