Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'm trying to install Leopard on my PC using Kalyway. Should I format the drive I'm going to use as installation directory before I run the DVD (should I format while in Vista OS?), and boot the Leopard Setup, or must I do it in the disk utility screen? For right now I cant format anything in the disk utility screen in mac setup, because none of Hard Drives are being detected (only the DVD drive). Any solutions for my problems? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytzu Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 it's better to have a partition prepared before and use only erase option from disk utility on that partition, however if your disk is not detected is bad, try to play in bios with SATA setings (enable/disable AHCI) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 yeah I tried to poke around in BIOS, but I couldn't seem to find AHCI management. I have a Phoenix Award BIOS, if that's any help? But how should I partition my disk? NTFS or FAT32? And what about Allocation Unit Size (Default, maybe?) EDIT: Seems like if the only options I have for the SATA is IDE and RAID? No AHCI? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidCastro Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 From what I know you need AHCI enabled for the hdd to get detected, that is until your using the OS and then you can adjust it to work with AHCI8R. Just wait till someone with more experience posts. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacNutty Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 First you should create a new primary partition with id=af on your HDD with disktools (Vista). This partition may be then visible in DiskUtility. Then install leopard. Install boot loader (I prefer Darwin boot loader). After installation you might be asked to repair Vista, at that time make your Vista partition active before repairing. After repair again make leopard partition active. Thats' all Vista & leopard dual boot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 How do I make a partition a primary partition? Right now I only know how to make it a logical drive. If i remember correctly, XP had this option built-in in the partition-wizard. But in Vista I can't seem to find a such option. How do I do it? And what is id=af, and where do I do it? And I still have the BIOS setting change to AHCI problem, don't I? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytzu Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 partition magic is a simple and intuitive tool, with that you can create a primary fat32 partition easyly. then you have to use another tool (paragon part manager ex) to change partition's ID to 0xAF. That partition will be accesible from leo disk utility, erase method (HFS+ Journaled) is recommended also. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 I get this error message when trying to run Partition Magic: "Init failed: Error 117. Partition's drive letter cannot be identified". So the application doesn't start. Is there any alternatives to Partition Magic? EDIT: Ok, I guess I can just use Paragon for the whole thing. Should it not be NTFS and not FAT32? And what is that erase method? How do you do it? what does it do? is it necessary? EDIT 2: darn it. Is it so that NTFS is read-only or something with Mac? I'm making a 20 GB drive for Leopard and isn't that size too big for FAT32? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytzu Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 yes you can use paragon only make a primary fat32 partition convert partition's device id to 0xAF boot from leo dvd and start disk utility if you can see the disk, select you partition and find in second tab "erase" option and run it, select HFS+ Journaled as type while you erase EDIT 2: doesn't matter what you choose since you will change the partition ID to 0xAF (HFS+ type) but fat32 is recommended to be sure your darwin bootloader will work. 20GB is not a problem for a fat32 partition. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 ok thanks! I'll keep posting to update my progress and in case I need more help. Thanks for the help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 There is no 0xAF option in the Change Partition ID settings. And when I entered AF manually, it became unactive with the "unknown partition ID" tag. However there is a 0xAB option and it's tagged "Darwin Boot"? Might that be the correct ID? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytzu Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 it's normal to be like that, most partitioning tools are not recognizing AF partitions so set it 0xAF by hand and use erase method form leo disk utility. later you can use macdrive for windows to play with your HFS+ partition from windows. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 I can only write in two digits/letters. Will just writing AF do the thing? EDIT 1: Ok, I tried just writing AF in the 2 letter slot, and then I tried booting the Mac Setup again and still no HDD is visible in the Disk Utility. Now I haven't figured out that AHCI thing because I can't seem to find such option in my BIOS. In the SATA controller option, there is only IDE and RAID and mine is set to IDE. I tried booting setup with RAID (before I did all the primary partition and ID stuff) and still didn't work. So where do I go from here? Did I do that partition ID thing wrong? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-815769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytzu Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 it's better to have a partition prepared before and use only erase option from disk utility on that partition, however if your disk is not detected is bad, try to play in bios with SATA setings (enable/disable AHCI) as I said above, if your disk is not detected in disk utility you have another issue (not partitioning issue) so first you have to find a way to have your disk detected by leo disk utility (I can't help you here because my disk was always detected) and then my posts can help you to install osx. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-816228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Badr Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hi all! First my Laptop configuration: Dell Inspiron 1501 AMD Sempron 3500+ 512Mb Ram ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 Atapi CDROM: TSSTcorp DVD+/-RW TS-L632D This laptop was given to me by a friend that ruined the HD Sled, and screwed his hard drive. I reconstructed the sled with some plastic and epoxy and added a SATA Fujitsu MHW2080BJ FFS G2-(S1) 80Gb HD. Its the only part that is not from the default configuration. The dell Service Tag is 9NG46C. I also own a Power Mac G5 Dual 2.0 with 2Gb Ram Nvidia 6800GTS with 256Mb Ram and 2x500GB Sata 3 HDD. Its running Leopard 10.5.4 --- Issue: When I install Kalyway 10.5.2 I leave mostly the default settings on, and add any AMD related that the OS doesnt pick up. It begins to install, but when there is 25% left of the installation, the CD Rom makes a weird noise and it doesnt finishes the install (well I have left it several days running and it doesnt finish), i end up shutting it down and restarting. I have restarted the installation like 20 times. No joy... I am going to try and install Leopard using Leo4All to see what happens. Can someone give me any tips or ideas as what could be going wrong? I will appreciate it. Badr Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-816264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurie Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'm trying to install Leopard on my PC using Kalyway. Should I format the drive I'm going to use as installation directory before I run the DVD (should I format while in Vista OS?), and boot the Leopard Setup, or must I do it in the disk utility screen? For right now I cant format anything in the disk utility screen in mac setup, because none of Hard Drives are being detected (only the DVD drive). Any solutions for my problems? if you have more than 1 hard drive, have you tried booting with just 1 hard drive plugged in and 1 dvd? I had win XP on a drive, went in with paragon HD and did a size reduction from 250g to 125g on my XP partition. then it rebooted and fixed the mbr and did all its kungfu on my HD. then I went in and took the open space and formatted the open space as a NTFS. I then rebooted kalyway DVD and both my partitions showed up in the installer. I then went into the disk utility and erased the second open NTFS partition. I checked the options and made sure MBR was the type. HFS+ (journaled). after that I installed Kalyway with no issues. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-816271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 I don´t have more than one hard disk. All drives are on the same disk. I appreciate all the help I´ve got and I hope I´ll be able to work this out. I´ll post here to update my progress in case something works out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-816406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlash Posted July 12, 2008 Author Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have a Phoenix Award Bios. I'm trying to change to AHCI, but in the SATA controller settings (or whatever it's called), there's only IDE and RAID options. No AHCI option is available. Why is that? I believe I need to change to AHCI for the the HDD to be detected in Disk Utility. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-816834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzMac Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 When I install Kalyway 10.5.2 I leave mostly the default settings on, and add any AMD related that the OS doesnt pick up. It begins to install, but when there is 25% left of the installation, the CD Rom makes a weird noise and it doesnt finishes the install (well I have left it several days running and it doesnt finish), i end up shutting it down and restarting. I have restarted the installation like 20 times. No joy... You need to hold down a key (not kidding). I just put my Leatherman (pocket knife) on my Space key... I used Leo4all, but sounds like the same problem I was having without holding a key down. Now if I could just get my graphics card working in native res - the Calisto B3 driver is reported to work on some, but I just get a scrambled screen (like the wrong frequency) - I hope I can figure it out. Besides getting native resolution QE would be really cool! Please let me know if you find anything... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-843106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabroozz Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 partition magic is a simple and intuitive tool, with that you can create a primary fat32 partition easyly. then you have to use another tool (paragon part manager ex) to change partition's ID to 0xAF. That partition will be accesible from leo disk utility, erase method (HFS+ Journaled) is recommended also. Can anyone please tell how to change the partition ID to 0xAF with Paragon Partition. Thanx for any help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/115168-installing-kalyway-leopard-format-drive-before-installatin-setup/#findComment-1113328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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