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yes work both way, 95, probably will buy a lottery tomorrow ;)


what laptop model and trackpad do you have?

95 still works for me, but i feel that I have to press too hard. Does only 2-finger scroll for you, or does 1-finger also scroll?

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1 finger works for me both way. 80 is way to sensitive, 90 is nice but still scroll when I don't want to. 95 seems to be the number!!
M1330 Synatics tochpad.

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1 finger works for me both way. 80 is way to sensitive, 90 is nice but still scroll when I don't want to. 95 seems to be the number!!
M1330 Synatics tochpad.


Hmm, weird, each touchpad must be calibrated\different.

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where do I put the ffscrolldaemon and starupparameter files to?
I downloaded from yr minor link (rapid) but it seem does not a package installer.
Thx

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where do I put the ffscrolldaemon and starupparameter files to?
I downloaded from yr minor link (rapid) but it seem does not a package installer.
Thx


I forgot to add the package installer to the zip file, you can grab it from the tutorial link. Give me a few to add it

edit: heres the updated file with all the files you will need:
http://rapidshare.co...scroll.zip.html

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Thx, get it now, will post result later.

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I actually think 1finger scrolling is much better on non-macbook trackpads. The macbook trackpads are HUGE, on the other hand the m1330's trackpad is like a quarter of macbooks :).

Im really used to it now, so move the pointer and click with the tip of your finger and scroll with the bottom of your finger. works really well!

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it working now, but it take time for trial and error to fix the pointer speed to works with scrolling.
- after install and copy all the needed files to their loacation, the pointer is moving extremly fast.
- change parameter of zthres... down to 60: scrolling ok but pointer speed too slow
- change to 75 scrolling is difficult to control, pointer ok but somtime pausing.

And I totaly agree

I actually think 1finger scrolling is much better on non-macbook trackpads.

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Anyway Thx, I do have a good time to try this. :)

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it working now, but it take time for trial and error to fix the pointer speed to works with scrolling.
- after install and copy all the needed files to their loacation, the pointer is moving extremly fast.
- change parameter of zthres... down to 60: scrolling ok but pointer speed too slow
- change to 75 scrolling is difficult to control, pointer ok but somtime pausing.

And I totaly agree
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Anyway Thx, I do have a good time to try this. ;)


right now Property: speedScale is set to Value: 1600, which, I believe is the DPI. You can turn that down to make it slower. But I recommend you go in the mouse\keyboard settings in System Preferences and turn down the track speed (mine is set to half way)

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ranova, when you modify the zAcceptThreshold directly in the file does it prevent to load the Preference Pane?

I try to load it but is stuck at "loading FFScroll"

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ranova, when you modify the zAcceptThreshold directly in the file does it prevent to load the Preference Pane?

I try to load it but is stuck at "loading FFScroll"


That happened to me when I did not manually copy over the plist files to both dirs and when I edited both under the ALPS and Synaptics section, I mustve typed something in wrong. Redownload the plist file and put them back in both directories and edit only under your section. Its kind of picky, FFScroll is...

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thanks for the tip.

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Hi, after a day my scrolling function not going smoothly any more. I need to touch the pad for 3, 4, 5 sec to be able to scroll with 1 finger, what parameter I need to change to make it more active (faster recognize scroll function) when i touch the pad and move my finger up, down (vertical scroll), left, or right (horizontal scroll)?

And I got the info during verbose mode:
Alkor: Starting.
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Chosen model GMA 950
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting built-in=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL,HasPanel=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL,SelfRefreshSupported=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL,NumFramebuffers=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL,NumDisplays=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL01,Depth=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL01,Pipe=<data not shown>
Feb 23 19:51:29 localhost kernel[0]: Alkor: Setting AAPL01,DataJustify=<data not shown>

Is it correct loading for FFscroll data driver?

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Wow, just wow - an easy to use tutorial not having to spend 30 minutes trying to figure out what's going on. Well written and pretty easy to use for novices.

Only thing I really need from my Dell XPS M1330 now is my Wifi cover to be fixed (I have a Dell Truemobile 1490 card just waiting to replace the Intel card but the screw is completely stripped!!! ARGH!!!! I've been waiting forever a week to get the bottom part of my computer replaced under warranty.)

2.) VGA out -- ;) still not working with this laptop and GMA X3100, the screen gives me completely garbled display. However, with Kalway 10.5 DVD the external VGA works just fine, but the internal display doesn't. SOOO CLOSE yet so far.

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At least on the m1330, it doesn't seem to matter whether you have 1 or 2 fingers on, but just how hard you press on the trackpad to start scrolling.


You really should make that in bold text at the top! Besides that, yay! Works for me on my Latitude D820, although I still have a little tweaking and/or getting used to pushing hard to scroll to do. Thanks!

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70 is the good number on a Vostro 1500 :)

I have a little annoyance: since the driver update it's much difficult to tap to click, i have to concentrate and keep my hand incredibly still to make a tap - is there a parameter to adjust it to make it easier, more sensitive?

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Well I installed the package and followed all the steps, everything seems in place, trackpad became much more sensetive, but I dont think scrolling is working atleast when I try to do it its not. am I not doing it right ? I`m on Dell e1505


Well it kinda works, but the way it scrolls is kinda unusable. WHen I press the finger on it, it just kinda starts going crazy..... DO I have to change the value in both places ?

Had to uninstall the mouse is a unusable too sensitive...... and starts scrolling while just using the mouse normally :D

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Hi, after a day my scrolling function not going smoothly any more. I need to touch the pad for 3, 4, 5 sec to be able to scroll with 1 finger, what parameter I need to change to make it more active (faster recognize scroll function) when i touch the pad and move my finger up, down (vertical scroll), left, or right (horizontal scroll)?Is it correct loading for FFscroll data driver?

that verbose mode looks like it is for your graphics display driver.anyways to change the sensitivity on acceptance of scroll is to change the value of zAcceptThreshold in both horizontal and vertical either under ALPS or Synaptics. Make the value lower to be more sensitive. also try moving the sensitivity slider up or down in the FFScroll app for both vertical and horizontal, read the tutorial again, as I have updated it with how to change settings

70 is the good number on a Vostro 1500 :offtopic: I have a little annoyance: since the driver update it's much difficult to tap to click, i have to concentrate and keep my hand incredibly still to make a tap - is there a parameter to adjust it to make it easier, more sensitive?

yea, it is difficult to tap now, but it is a trade off for scrolling function. You can try editing the tap threshold, Property: tapTolerence , I havent tried tweaking with that yet. Its a good thing there are two buttons on your laptops for the trackpad :)How I tap is exactly how I move the mouse on the trackpad, use the very tip of my finger to tap\move mouse, while the bottom of my finger is to scroll. Tap lightly and tap fast.

Well I installed the package and followed all the steps, everything seems in place, trackpad became much more sensetive, but I dont think scrolling is working atleast when I try to do it its not. am I not doing it right ? I`m on Dell e1505Well it kinda works, but the way it scrolls is kinda unusable. WHen I press the finger on it, it just kinda starts going crazy..... DO I have to change the value in both places ?Had to uninstall the mouse is a unusable too sensitive...... and starts scrolling while just using the mouse normally ;)

did you change the tracking speed in the mouse\keyboard settings? try turning it down more than halfway. If scrolling is going crazy, you have to edit the zThreshold mentioned above. Try making it higher.

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Tap lightly and tap fast.did you change the tracking speed in the mouse\keyboard settings? try turning it down more than halfway. If scrolling is going crazy, you have to edit the zThreshold mentioned above. Try making it higher.


Changed the speed all the way down, its still sensitive, scrolling crazy is kinda in control, but no meter what value I put in the zThreshold it still tries to scroll in the most appropriate time, like its very sensitive....... I tried higher/lower had to finally uninstall(wify was going crazy)

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Changed the speed all the way down, its still sensitive, scrolling crazy is kinda in control, but no meter what value I put in the zThreshold it still tries to scroll in the most appropriate time, like its very sensitive....... I tried higher/lower had to finally uninstall(wify was going crazy)


what was the highest you set the threshold to? the original poster of the settings had his all the way up to 135.





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