QE/CI opengl with pcie 7600gt using natit .02

[asimovrobot]

Well I am so close I can taste it. After much poking and prodding I finally have JaS 10.4.8 with semthex 8.8.1 runing natit .02 on my AMD nforce system. I have dual displays running and the hard fought ability to change resolutions. The only thing I am missing is QE/CI and opengl

 

Honestly I could care less about QE/CI but I would really like to have opengl working and I suspect these 3 go hand in hand.

 

I have modified nvdaresman.kext,nvdanv40hal.kext,natit.kex and geforce.kext to reflect the proper ID for my card (0x039110de) and finally after alot of pain and agony have gotten this far but am not sure where to go to get my 3d acceleration working. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

asimovrobot

[Zulu.Walker]

Here's a suggestion... Post your hardware so that we know what to work with? Welcome to InsanelyMac, seems like it's your first post.

 

EDIT: I'm guessing you have a nvidia (10de) 7600GT (0x0391). Other hardware? I also use Natit v.02 on my 7600GT with all the bells and whistles on, it *should* have worked perfectly upon install.

Edited March 12, 2007 by Zulu.Walker

[asimovrobot]

Video card - XFX PV-T73G-UDE3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB

 

Mobo - ASUS A8N-SLI nForce4

 

IDE hard drive of course as I found out quickly SATA would not work.

 

Video card is PCIe and has dual DVI both with DVI-toVGA attached to a 19" wide at 1440x900 and a 15" at 1280x1024.

 

I am not sure if this will matter but I am also using a 7100gs for a third screen which OSX seems to be ignoring. The fact that the third screen is not working in OSX is fine just as long as it is not causing problems having the second video card in there.

 

I have just recently got OSX to boot with res change working. With a barebones install(no natit or titan) I would get to desktop but no res change. When including natit or titan in install I would always get black screen just after gray screen with apple logo. Many other attempts at installing natit resulted in black screen.

 

[Zulu.Walker]

Have you tried booting the system without the 7100gs? DiaboliK has his XFX 7600GT working, you might want to ask him personally how he did it. He's probably using modified drivers found on his site.

 

im running dual monitors (capable of dual 30" dev.gif ) with XFX cards (my preference) both the 7600GT pci-e 265mb and the 7600GS pci-e 256mb fanless edition. ive been using an editied version of bofor's dual screen natit.kext.

just click the link in my sig to get my installer and instructions for my installer.

 

* just to be safe upgrade to 10.4.8 with a 8.8.1 kernal ( semthex, mifki or daemonES dosent matter)*

 

i will be trying with an XFX 7300GS pci-e 256mb tonight so stay tuned for how that goes.

 

 

Hope this helps.

[asimovrobot]

Back to where I started. Originally I had been manually adding and editing kext files and got myself dual screens, res change goodness but no QE/CI/opengl. I attempted DiaboliK's installer and got a black screen. I reinstalled fresh and ran diabolik's installer the very first thing after reaching the desktop and got a black screen on reboot. I managed to get myself back to a desktop but no duals and no res change. I reinstalled again and used the natit_uni installer which got me a single screen with res change(it was showing 2nd screen in 'arrange' but rotated 90' and no display on it). I noticed that after uni installer the geforce.kext was missing from /system/library/extensions. After doing a search I found it to be in the backup extensions. I restored it and edited it with my dev ID now I have duals back with res change but no QE/CI/opengl still.

 

 

I have heard some mention of needing to get newer openglframework but am not sure how I can check to see if this is necessary or not. From what I can gather I would download the 10.4.8 update from apple.com, pacifist out the file and replace??? But how do I know if I have an old one? Would this possible explain it? What version of natit does the uni installer use so maybe I can try some others? Why do birds sing?

 

Sorry for all the questions, I am admittedly noobish here so might be missing some very simple but crucial step of component of the process.

 

Thanks for reading.

 

 

BTW - everything since first diabolik installer run has been without the 7100gs i mentioned in the above post and only my XFX 7600GT

Edited March 15, 2007 by asimovrobot

[DiaboliK]

plain and easy: 7600(any model) install

 

start from an nice clean 10.4.8 or 10.4.9 combo update from apple (not delta)

 

install bofors' natit dual v01 or v02, then thats it.

if you dont have qe/ci edit the geforce.kext.

 

its not rocket science. sometimes i actually find it easier than color by number

[Obi]

Diabolik

 

First thanks for your hard work on installers.

 

I'm experiencing a very similar problem with my ASUS PCIe EN7300GS

 

I've used your installer and the System profiler now detects the 7300 correctely but I have no resolutions selection (only shows 1024 x 768) and QE/CI/OpenGL don't work at all.

 

May I have any hope to see that damned card working sooner or later???

 

I'll keep on trying...

[asimovrobot]

plain and easy: 7600(any model) install

 

start from an nice clean 10.4.8 or 10.4.9 combo update from apple (not delta)

 

install bofors' natit dual v01 or v02, then thats it.

if you dont have qe/ci edit the geforce.kext.

 

its not rocket science. sometimes i actually find it easier than color by number

 

 

OK to date I have tried

 

1) Clean install plus uni installer

 

2) Clean install plus diabolik installer

 

3) Clean install and your above instructions trying natit dual v01 and v02 with no luck

 

Closest I get is duals and res change working.

 

My install DVD apparently does not install the geforce kext files by default. I dont know if this is normal but I always have to restore geforce.kext from 'Backed up extensions' folder. I tried with natit and no geforce.kext, with natit and with geforce.kext, with natit and edited geforce.kext. So far I have only edited geforce.kext to include my dev id.

 

 

Also in the 'Backed up extensions' folder are a number of other geforce*.bundle and geforcega.plugin files... do I need these to be active in /system/library/extensions? Like I said they along with geforce.kext are not present after fresh install and I am not sure if they are supposed to be.

 

 

Frustrating to say the least... at any rate I am done with the 'fresh installs', I have installed OSX on this machine probably 10 times and the romance is wearing thin.

 

Thanks for all your input and let me know if there is some more info I can provide that I may have omitted.

[asimovrobot]

Well turns out the missing geforce*.bundle files were necessary and completely solved the problem. Dual screens, res change and now... finally... QE/CI 'supported'! Like I had mentioned above my install DVD was not including geforce*.* in /system/library/extensions but rather putting them all in my backed up extensions folder.

 

 

Maybe if I would have installed with the discs titan it would install those files? I dont know... I do know that installing WITHOUT the discs included titan was the only way for me to get to desktop initially.

 

All I did was

 

1) Install natit (I was getting pretty much the same results from v01 and v02... the startup sequence was a bit different but the end result was the same... dual screens and res change)

 

2) restore and edit geforce.kext for dev id

 

3) restore the other missing files

geforce2mxgldriver.bundle

geforce3gldriver.bundle

geforcemsgldriver.bundle

geforcega.plugin

geforcevadriver.bundle

 

 

For diabolik, maybe you can include the 10.4.8 accelerated kexts(which rjm refers to here http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=45732) in your installer... then it wouldnt matter what files a person does or does NOT have, your installer would be universal. Just a thought but then again you probably thought of that already... after all this stuff is not rocket science.

[waire]

Well turns out the missing geforce*.bundle files were necessary and completely solved the problem. Dual screens, res change and now... finally... QE/CI 'supported'! Like I had mentioned above my install DVD was not including geforce*.* in /system/library/extensions but rather putting them all in my backed up extensions folder.

Maybe if I would have installed with the discs titan it would install those files? I dont know... I do know that installing WITHOUT the discs included titan was the only way for me to get to desktop initially.

 

All I did was

 

1) Install natit (I was getting pretty much the same results from v01 and v02... the startup sequence was a bit different but the end result was the same... dual screens and res change)

 

2) restore and edit geforce.kext for dev id

 

3) restore the other missing files

geforce2mxgldriver.bundle

geforce3gldriver.bundle

geforcemsgldriver.bundle

geforcega.plugin

geforcevadriver.bundle

For diabolik, maybe you can include the 10.4.8 accelerated kexts(which rjm refers to here http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=45732) in your installer... then it wouldnt matter what files a person does or does NOT have, your installer would be universal. Just a thought but then again you probably thought of that already... after all this stuff is not rocket science.

 

Another working 7600GS here (MSI 256MB PCIe fanless T2D256EH)! Don't know about dual screens though as I only have one display, but System Profiler lists a second unconnected display, QE/CI works, e.g. I can play DVD's.

 

Here's the complete list of nvidia-related kexts I'm using:

GeForce.kext - edited, 0x039210de ONLY - kernel panic when &0x0000ffff was added

GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle - copied from /Backed up extensions

GeForce3GLDriver.bundle - same

GeForceFXGLDriver.bunde - same

GeForceGA.plugin

GeForceVADriver.bundle - same

 

now, I have no idea about which of these actually turned on quartz and core image, but they definitely need to be there it seems (THANKS asimovrobot).

 

also,

NVDANV10Hal.kext

NVDANV20Hal.kext

NVDANV30Hal.kext

NVDANV40Hal.kext - edited, 0x039210de ONLY

NVDAResman.kext - edited, 0x039210de ONLY

 

and Natit.kext Natit_Dual_v0.2 - see natit wiki (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Natit#Download)

I didn't modify the device ID in there, just copied it to extensions

 

chmodding and chowning all the time.

little advice: cd /S*/L*/E*/ gets you to /System/Library/Extensions quicker

 

then rm-ing Extensions.kextcache and Extensions.mkext and running diskutil repairpermissions /

 

thanks for the info for everyone on the forum!

[Obi]

Hi everyone

 

After many testing hours I've discovered this line in my logs:

 

PCE1: family specific matching fails

 

I suspect this is the real reason why my 7300 gs comes to a black screem.

 

I got the vendor and product id and added them to the PCIFamily.kext plist with no luck...

 

This is not natit or anything else issue.

 

This is motherboard problem I fear...

 

Any idea please?

[litania72]

Hi,i have tried averything, but nothing works. However, i installed osx 10.4.8 jas again on another hdd, an d with titan my 7600gt was recognised with qe-ci enabled. What the hell is wrong with my other osx 10.4.11 is beyond my understanding. it should be an easy task but it is not.hope 1 day i can have qe-ci enabled also on the other installation (now 10.4.11, showing 'software' and 'not supported'.Thanksasrock 4core-dual vsta2gb 667maxtor ata133 40gbpny 7600gtHi,i have tried averything, but nothing works. However, i installed osx 10.4.8 jas again on another hdd, an d with titan my 7600gt was recognised with qe-ci enabled. What the hell is wrong with my other osx 10.4.11 is beyond my understanding. it should be an easy task but it is not.hope 1 day i can have qe-ci enabled also on the other installation (now 10.4.11, showing 'software' and 'not supported'.Thanksasrock 4core-dual vsta2gb 667maxtor ata133 40gbpny 7600gt