Jimmiegin Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Hello, today i sold the last of my cheap Hackintosh machines so now i am ready for one half nice build as budget allows. My hardware so far will be: Parts i dont have: i7 4770k or 4790k Parts i do have: GA-Z87-HD3 motherboard 16GB DDR3 XMS3 1600 MHz 2x 8GB Gt 610 2GB GDDR3 WN881ND WiFi 250GB Crucial SSD 1TB HDD I am aware that the Z87 motherboard have stability issues with 4 populated DIMM slots but as this board was £29 and my budget will be half gone on the CPU alone, I got this board and 2 x 8GB DDR3 so hopefully it should remain stable with only 2 slots filled??? As far as i am aware my new system should be fully supported and pretty good for the foreseeable future. I have looked at benchmark scores for the 4770k and 4790k and also seen the price difference. Is the extra cash really worth the difference between the 4790k and the 4770k...... Is anyone ever actually likely to notice any impovement for the 4790k over the 4770k in the real world or are the extra few points just processor porn and a good sales strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymousnbs Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K if you ..install hackintosh please watching video http://youtube.com/watch?v=kH9TDSlejPc i thinking cpu i7-4790k and i7 4770k no difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It is not processor porn the work that can be done will be exactly the percentage higher the clock is at on either chip. Now that is not to say your usage case will see any difference really unless you do something like encode h.264 video all the time with the machine. So anything you do that requires the high load processing you will get better results but if you are mainly surfing web, email, stuff like that waste of money going with more expensive chip and unless you are going to overclock the processor waste of money getting the k chip as well. Four dimm stability BS as far as I am concerned both my Z87 boards have all them populated with ECC ram even I had left over from my MacPro 4,1 5,1 days never had a problem at all with that. I would say you are correct you should have a well supported machine at least until Apple dumps their versions of that machine configuration like they are wont to do every few years. Good luck with the new build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmiegin Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks, i have gone for the 4770k as i can't justify the extra cash (albeit a relatively small amount compared to the total cost) for the extra 500MHz. Though looking at what i have just typed i am thinking again! Anyway i have paid now so mist done. I will be using this machine for everything from Multisim to VMware fusion to arduino projects and audio production. I should hope even though i did not go for the all singing all dancing 4790k, that my new build should stand up to the tasks i throw at it??? I have gone for the k CPU also as i will be fitting a large heat-sink and OCing although i am not sure on the OC features of this board as i bought it cos it was cheap and compatibility with OS X. As for the Z87 boards and 4 DIMM slots population being the cause of instability... If BS is your feeling and you are running without an issue then that goes to put my mind to rest but i have seen many posts/threads telling stories of 4 DIMM and instability but maybe they are using mismatch or 2 kits or bad timings? Still i will take your word for it and see how it goes. Thanks for your replies guys and this forum is great!! One day i shall be sure to give something back to such a good resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Rock solid stable with the four dimms here I have literally encoded h.264 for weeks on end (24/7 100% load) with load my spare machine without a hiccup and of course the main machine is just as stable. Guide I found useful below on the overclocking. http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/overclock_intel_4770k_guide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmiegin Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Cool man thanks! I was watching ncix tech tips on youtube the other day and noted the guy said that OCing your CPU will bring down the RAM freq celling but what about the . I Have ordered XMS3 1.5v 1600 but should i go for higher cycles or lower access time as my primary concern or both? What i don't want to do is OC the nuts off my CPU and then find that the RAM timings are slowing the systems down and countering the extra CPU speed. My current understanding (simplified greatly i imagine as i am only in my first year of my degree) is that the CPU clock keeps timing for the whole system so tasks are executed in sync.... like a heart beat pumping blood round the body. What i don't understand is how RAM timings (freq not CAS) affect this. I guess these are questions for the OC forums and my tutor! Thanks for your help. How do you think Video encoding compares to circuit sims processing power wise? or is that like comparing a length of string to a length of rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Cool man thanks! I was watching ncix tech tips on youtube the other day and noted the guy said that OCing your CPU will bring down the RAM freq celling but what about the . I Have ordered XMS3 1.5v 1600 but should i go for higher cycles or lower access time as my primary concern or both? What i don't want to do is OC the nuts off my CPU and then find that the RAM timings are slowing the systems down and countering the extra CPU speed. My current understanding (simplified greatly i imagine as i am only in my first year of my degree) is that the CPU clock keeps timing for the whole system so tasks are executed in sync.... like a heart beat pumping blood round the body. What i don't understand is how RAM timings (freq not CAS) affect this. I guess these are questions for the OC forums and my tutor! Thanks for your help. How do you think Video encoding compares to circuit sims processing power wise? or is that like comparing a length of string to a length of rope? No clue on the sim part never have had any experience with it but work done by a processor should be the same no matter the job involved. So faster processor speed equals more work done no matter what you are throwing at it, ram timmings/speed I have tested that it is at most a percentage point or two of difference on the overall work that can be done in the end I gave up on it too much foolishness to trying to get it running stable. I went with the easy raising the multiplier/voltage (if necessary to get the higher speed) you just need to keep an eye on the temperatures which in the end I did not like. What I have done now is what is called under-volting I run the chip at just over 1 volt at its stock speed this saves according to hwmonitor over 30-40 watts of power consumed (power consumed is a square of voltage applied in any equation calculating it) at full load and 5 or so at idle, temperatures are way down too as a result of this. I was getting close to 75-80C under load now in low 60sC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmiegin Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks MasUser2525. I am now on to an i7-4790k build (its in my signature) using a corsair carbide case cos like the look. With this build I'm going for look as well as performance and Im wondering what cooling you personally use? Im going to have a search and compare performance of fluid coolers to huge heat-sinks and see what I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO I had thought of going water cooled but I can't get by the possibility of leakage, liquids and electronics don't mix well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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