JonTheSavage Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-842180934463681887 The documentary Monsanto doesn't want you to see. EDIT: I'm going to have this aired on a local TV station. With most people here being farmers, hopefully this educate them to not use GMO crops from Monsanto, and switch to organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SticMAC™ Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Although I admire your "cause" it is hard to see straight if you're DYING of Hunger!!! SticMAN ps love you avatar, but it needs some work! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-842180934463681887 The documentary Monsanto doesn't want you to see. EDIT: I'm going to have this aired on a local TV station. With most people here being farmers, hopefully this educate them to not use GMO crops from Monsanto, and switch to organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 Although I admire your "cause" it is hard to see straight if you're DYING of Hunger!!! SticMAN ps love you avatar, but it needs some work! So you back the F100 company, that causes cancer, and pollutes the environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 The US is made up of mainly marginal farm land, that requires special management. Yeah, go organic, but it means that every field needs to be left fallow for 5 years before it can be used again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SticMAC™ Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Nope, I just support anyone that are willing to feed 25million (25 000 000) starving people!! SticMAN So you back the F100 company, that causes cancer, and pollutes the environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 A pretty informative video. I have more desire to go organic now than ever before! Yeah, go organic, but it means that every field needs to be left fallow for 5 years before it can be used again. And if population growth continues at current rates, we won't have the ability to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 Um, Ok. And how is "owning" toxic crops going to solve hunger? Do you believe it is actually wise to put the majority of crops in the hands of a few people? Or is it wise for many, many farmers to grow HEALTHY, non-deadly crops that can make those who are starving live longer? The US is made up of mainly marginal farm land, that requires special management.Yeah, go organic, but it means that every field needs to be left fallow for 5 years before it can be used again.Are you a farmer? I assume you are not. I've had a 30 acre farm since I was 19. That was 7 years ago. You grow for 4 years, and sit on the 5th year. Your seed has to be open polinated, and stored/dried, or frozen for the 6h year. Then the process repeats. It takes 2 men to manage 30 acres if they know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Um, Ok. And how is "owning" toxic crops going to solve hunger? Do you believe it is actually wise to put the majority of crops in the hands of a few people? Or is it wise for many, many farmers to grow HEALTHY, non-deadly crops that can make those who are starving live longer?Are you a farmer? I assume you are not. I've had a 30 acre farm since I was 19. That was 7 years ago. You grow for 4 years, and sit on the 5th year. Your seed has to be open polinated, and stored/dried, or frozen for the 6h year. Then the process repeats. It takes 2 men to manage 30 acres if they know what they are doing. No, I'm not a farmer, but I haven't been studying geography for the last 4 years for nothing. Great for you if you live in the areas of above average fertility, but converting the entire US to organic produce is simply not feasible. It is a good idea to use some processes that organic farmer employ, such as clover fields and mulching, both of with can help maintain the soil structure and reduce land degradation. Whilst the chernozem soil of the American grain belt is extremely fertile, it needs to maintain a high level of nutrients that can only be maintained by fertilization and/or fallow land and crop rotation. Sure, you can go completely organic, but you won't be able to maintain the same levels of produce for as long, or you will have to go without crops for a period of time. If you deplete the soil, you are not only putting your land at risk, but also many other farmer's land, and ultimately, the global economy of food. Look back to the Dust Bowl. Farmers saw the rich, chernozem soil and exploited it as much as possible. It gave a period of very high yields, and then the massive destruction of lands by wind erosion, due to the poor farming techniques. A period of climate change in the 30s also lead to drier weather, decreasing the area of fertile land. Sure, organic is a nice idea, but better in your own back garden, rather than on a grand scale, where we simply wouldn't be able to support the current market. Also, GM crops are a very good idea, and I support their development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheSavage Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 No, I'm not a farmer, but I haven't been studying geography for the last 4 years for nothing. Great for you if you live in the areas of above average fertility, but converting the entire US to organic produce is simply not feasible. It is a good idea to use some processes that organic farmer employ, such as clover fields and mulching, both of with can help maintain the soil structure and reduce land degradation. Whilst the chernozem soil of the American grain belt is extremely fertile, it needs to maintain a high level of nutrients that can only be maintained by fertilization and/or fallow land and crop rotation. Sure, you can go completely organic, but you won't be able to maintain the same levels of produce for as long, or you will have to go without crops for a period of time. If you deplete the soil, you are not only putting your land at risk, but also many other farmer's land, and ultimately, the global economy of food. Look back to the Dust Bowl. Farmers saw the rich, chernozem soil and exploited it as much as possible. It gave a period of very high yields, and then the massive destruction of lands by wind erosion, due to the poor farming techniques. A period of climate change in the 30s also lead to drier weather, decreasing the area of fertile land. Sure, organic is a nice idea, but better in your own back garden, rather than on a grand scale, where we simply wouldn't be able to support the current market. Also, GM crops are a very good idea, and I support their development When they decide you won't eat. Then good. Starve. I can live off of my land. Can you? You are too young, and far too trusting. Thats all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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