Charbucks Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 The M-Audio Firewire Solo (external audio interface) does not seem to work properly with a computer running Kalyway 10.5.2 (Asus P5E motherboard). The onboard sound card plays back just fine, a Lexicon Lambda USB audio interface works properly for both playback and recording, but the Firewire Solo has a few issues: Sound playback stutters and freezes. Even when watching a movie, the movie will freeze along with the sound, so it appears to be system-wide interrupt. Inputs appear to be detected properly in the M-audio control panel (channels move up and down in response to playing a guitar), but when using a program such as Logic 8 nothing is recorded. The M-audio control panel doesn't have an "Output" tab like it does on the quickstart guide (not sure if this is relevant, but it is odd). These problems occurred using the beta drivers for Leopard. With the 10.4.10 drivers, the interface didn't work at all. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobiebro Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'm having similair issues, Audio stutters, plays for about 15 seconds and then stops functioning altogether. No problems with onboard audio but I can't use Cubase or Logic to record under these circumstances, rendering this computer near useless. if anyone knows what causes this behaviour, or has a fix, please share! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-682106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMate Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Seems like we have the same problems....I had started a post on installation help with the same issues: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...c=94682&hl= Hopefully M-audio will start making better drivers...or someone here will figure out the hell is going on Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-685134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobiebro Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I have the same problems with my saffire, though only on my hack, the macbook ran it fine before, but now it seems that is also having trouble staying connected to firewire. They're taking ages updating the drivers if they're even going to.. >_< I already contacted their support about this, hopefully I'll get a reply after the weekend. the stuttering issue began when I upgraded the memory in my hack from 2 GB 533Mhz cl4 memory to 4 GB 667Mhz. I haven't upgraded my processor yet, i'm waiting for a Q9300, I hope that will solve some problems I'm having. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-698684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vracman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The M-Audio Firewire Solo (external audio interface) does not seem to work properly with a computer running Kalyway 10.5.2 (Asus P5E motherboard). The onboard sound card plays back just fine, a Lexicon Lambda USB audio interface works properly for both playback and recording, but the Firewire Solo has a few issues: Sound playback stutters and freezes. Even when watching a movie, the movie will freeze along with the sound, so it appears to be system-wide interrupt. Inputs appear to be detected properly in the M-audio control panel (channels move up and down in response to playing a guitar), but when using a program such as Logic 8 nothing is recorded. The M-audio control panel doesn't have an "Output" tab like it does on the quickstart guide (not sure if this is relevant, but it is odd). These problems occurred using the beta drivers for Leopard. With the 10.4.10 drivers, the interface didn't work at all. Any suggestions? I have the same problems with my M-Audio Firewire 410 running Kalyway 10.5.2 on ASUS P5E-VM HDMI Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-708387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMate Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Just an FYI guys... I have tested this strange stuttering with FireWire audio with 3 different external firewire cards: 1. Presonus Firebox (does not need a driver uses CoreAudio) 2. M-Audio Firewire Solo 3. Apogee Duet All of them revealed the same issue...with the same error in logs about cliping to a position more than the buffer etc. These are from the Kernel... I have also tried it on various Leopard releases: 1. Kalyway 10.5.2 2. Leo4allv3 also on Jas 10.4.8 but ...no good... Since this issue does not happen on real macs...I have to say - it must be something that goes on in CoreAudio or IOAudioStream of Hackingtoshes. My unfortunate suspision is that it is NOT a manufacturer driver issue but a bug in the OS code itself... Thought I would let you folks know before you invest time and money trying out diffent firewire cards...if someone has information on this issue or a cure please please please share it with us... Peace Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-725237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMate Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Okay folks...the Firewire stuttering problem solved.... First of all, I am not sure this will work for all motherboards mine is Asus P5K / P5KR and it works like a charm. I am using Leo4allv3 (very good installer), EFI, 9.2.2 vanilla kernel on GUID SATA HD. 3 Gig RAM and q6600 g0 CPU. I finally disabled on-board Firewire and installed a cheap LSI (3 port) firewire PCI card and Voila!!! No more stuttering with M-Audio FireWire Solo using their latest beta driver.... I tested input and output it it sound sweet...now to reinstall Logic and get recording Hope this helps!!! If you get it to work, let me know Peace Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-725716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charbucks Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 FishMate, that's great to hear. I'll give the external firewire card a shot as soon as I have time. By the way, I've heard that M-Audio (and perhaps other firewire audio devices?) work best with the TI firewire chipset. I can't seem to find what the P5* motherboards use, but maybe it has something to do with the problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-726564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eway Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hi all, In fact that's true, TI will have better issue with pro soundcards. It's a well known problem on PC, not only on Mac. I don't know what ASUS use for their chipsets. One exception for me: I don't have problems with asus firewire chipset and digidesign hardware... Hope this helps Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-730080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadMonkey Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Okay folks...the Firewire stuttering problem solved.... First of all, I am not sure this will work for all motherboards mine is Asus P5K / P5KR and it works like a charm. I am using Leo4allv3 (very good installer), EFI, 9.2.2 vanilla kernel on GUID SATA HD. 3 Gig RAM and q6600 g0 CPU. I finally disabled on-board Firewire and installed a cheap LSI (3 port) firewire PCI card and Voila!!! No more stuttering with M-Audio FireWire Solo using their latest beta driver.... I tested input and output it it sound sweet...now to reinstall Logic and get recording Hope this helps!!! If you get it to work, let me know Peace This issue has been driving me nuts, I just purchased a Apogee Duet thinking that it's got to be the M-Audio SOLO With that said, where did you buy the LSI FireWire Interface Card and how much? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-736729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMate Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Bought it at BestBuy for ~$27 USD. I recommend that you get a PCI card from newegg that also supports FW 800 vs. just FW 400 <--- for future expandability. Cheers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-738039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
section_14 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Hi all, In fact that's true, TI will have better issue with pro soundcards. It's a well known problem on PC, not only on Mac. I don't know what ASUS use for their chipsets. One exception for me: I don't have problems with asus firewire chipset and digidesign hardware... Hope this helps I believe you are correct. I know that Echo reccomends TI chips for their Firewire cards. I've just ordered this one from newegg, as others have had success and it seems pretty solid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16815255014 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-744067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuk Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I'm having the same issues on an Edirol FA-66 firewire. Gonna have another play around this evening and I will post up my results. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-747275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hknight Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I grabbed my TI chip firewire pci card from my other PC and put it in my hackintosh, but I still have issues with my FireStudio. My system will lock up after the FireStudio has been turned on for about a minute. It seems not every TI based chip will fix this, or I'm experiencing a different issue entirely. I'm thinking it has something to do with my nForce mobo chipset also. I'm going to Circuit City to try a different firewire pci card. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-753293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach-os Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 are you guys all running kalyway 10.5.2? I´m asking because I don´t have any problems with my saffire on a clean install. It´s working absolutely perfect Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-753586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuk Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 My firewire sound card issues have all be resolved by fitting a TI chipset firewire card. yay. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-754200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charbucks Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Okay, got the TI card, and playback is perfect, nice! However, recording is another story... it works, but the old crackle/pop is back. It actually is recording with these disturbances, it's not just the sound of the playback during recording. Increasing the latency/buffer doesn't have much effect (and it's a pretty new computer, with plenty of processor power and RAM), so I'm at a bit of a loss at what to do. Any other suggestions of settings to mess with in Logic? By the way, there's new drivers for 10.5.2 - maybe they'll work better for you than for me? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-754722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charbucks Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 Alright, looks like it's *mostly* fixed - clicks only show up once every few minutes. It still kind of sucks, as an otherwise perfect recording will be marred by a little pop, but it's working as well (actually, better) than it does in windows. Turns out the error was related to a timing mismatch. The computer needed to be booted with "fsb=333" (the fsb speed on the Q6600 is 1066). Also, speedstepping had to be turned off in the bios. The solo is now doing well even with the buffer set to the lowest (32) for pretty much no latency. Oddly enough, windows only gives the option to lower the buffer to 128, and the pops are much more frequent. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-758554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hknight Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Can you explain more about the timing mismatch? I have the exact TI card recommended above, but it still freezes. I will try turning off speedstep and changing the fsb to see if this helps. This is not a bug in the hackintosh code because I used a retail DVD with the latest efi to install, so my OS X should be identical to a real mac minus a few patched drivers. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-775460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemar Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Its been a couple of months I ve been doing a lot of searching on this. It seems as though there is no solution to the firebox not being detected by ones onboard 1394 port. Is this confirmed? I am running a retail 10.5.4 leopard & interestingly, when i plug my firebox onto the onboard VIA firewire port ( VT6308P - P5E mobo), the light turns blue as though its happy as larry. In system preferences --> network however, there is no green orb. I ve got another 3 port firewire PCI card which is recognised in network, but returns the same "not connected' message. What is the expected source of this problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-973077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonie Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Has anyone had any success with this PCI-E FW card? Bytecc FireWire800 (2-Port)+ Firewire400(1-Port) PCI-E Card (BT-PE1394B) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94776-m-audio-firewire-solo-issues/#findComment-1138484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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