Templeton Peck Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I guess this is kernel related. I've tried the latest netkas kernel, but 64-Bit Apps all seem to crash. Until this is fixed (appreciate the effort, btw), is it possible to run a background daemon in 32-bit mode. I know this is possible for GUI apps like Chess.app, by clicking the check box in the "Get Info window" -- But what about unix apps? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
riws Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I guess this is kernel related. I've tried the latest netkas kernel, but 64-Bit Apps all seem to crash. Until this is fixed (appreciate the effort, btw), is it possible to run a background daemon in 32-bit mode. I know this is possible for GUI apps like Chess.app, by clicking the check box in the "Get Info window" -- But what about unix apps? Boot with KernelFlag -legacy maybe Kernel needs this SSSE3 Fix for Pentium 4/D´s Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-488456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted October 31, 2007 Author Share Posted October 31, 2007 Boot with KernelFlag -legacy maybe Kernel needs this SSSE3 Fix for Pentium 4/D´s Thanks for the reply but I get the same result. It's not too big of a deal. I don't care so much about Chess. My main concern is getting Apache working, but HTTPd keeps crashing whenever I try to enable Web serving. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-489056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 UPDATE: I stripped out the 64-Bit code paths in both httpd and Chess; both now work flawlessly. I've found a couple of other people with the same problems, but it's not that prevalent. I think a lot of people just aren't noticing this yet -- firstly, because the only two 64-Bit apps in Leo are Chess and httpd (things which most folks will probably never use) -- and secondly, because most people are probably still on 32-Bit (so the apps won't even attempt to run in 64-Bit mode). Plus, most people are probably still on Tiger. To put my theory to the test, is there anyone out there running Leo on a 64-Bit machine who's able to run either Chess or httpd? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-492456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliab Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I have just finish a Chess party in 64 mode no crash httpd works to i will test more regards Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-492778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoarthing Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 There's a new netkas 'RC1' kernel [from source ] on the usual irc: Intel/SSE3/HPET/64-bit . . . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-493243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 I have just finish a Chess party in 64 mode no crash httpd works to i will test more regards Thanks, it must be on my end then. I notice you have a C2D. The issue is probably something specific to the P4/chipset/etc... There's a new netkas 'RC1' kernel [from source ] on the usual irc: Intel/SSE3/HPET/64-bit . . . Thanks. I'll try it out pronto. The new kernel works great. 64-Bit Apps no longer crash. If I interpret the Netkas site correctly, the problem affected machines without SSE4. But it's all good now. The only other issue I have is About this Mac, but this one has been popping up and corrected so many times, it doesn't even bother me anymore. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-494607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caracols Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Finished a Chess game, not a single problem, confirmed running 64bit on activity monitor. Only Core2Duos and forthcoming cpus have a 64bit core, I guess that even older CoreDuos are only 32 bit capable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-495619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riws Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Thanks, it must be on my end then. I notice you have a C2D. The issue is probably something specific to the P4/chipset/etc...Thanks. I'll try it out pronto. The new kernel works great. 64-Bit Apps no longer crash. If I interpret the Netkas site correctly, the problem affected machines without SSE4. But it's all good now. The only other issue I have is About this Mac, but this one has been popping up and corrected so many times, it doesn't even bother me anymore. Like I said its SSSE3 Problem. And C2D have it, Pentium4/PentiumD/Celeron needs this fix to get 64bit correctly done Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-495663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquidCombo Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Are you guys able to run calculator and ichat? I can't run them. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-497149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alepro2 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Are you guys able to run calculator and ichat? I can't run them. No probs here. C2D e6750 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-498027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidha Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 "I guess that even older CoreDuos are only 32 bit capable." I don't understand this. Other forums says: "Pentium D is 64 bit". What's the truth about this? Is 64 bit capable a Leopard running Pentium D or Core(1)Duo? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-506151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Chess is working just fine over here on Pentium D 830. ToH RC2, EFI v5.2, stock kexts, netkas 9.1 kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-512215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riws Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 "I guess that even older CoreDuos are only 32 bit capable."Yeah, CoreDuo´s aka Yonah dont have SSSE3 and EM64TI don't understand this. Other forums says: "Pentium D is 64 bit".What's the truth about this? Is 64 bit capable a Leopard running Pentium D or Core(1)Duo?Pentium D has the EM64T instruction set, but not the SSSE3. Apple´s Vision of Intel 64bit is with SSSE3. With hacked Kernels its possible to get 64bit in Leo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68697-64-bit-apps-crash-in-leo/#findComment-513595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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