keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Hello, I'm hoping someone in his or her benevolence will decide to help me out here! I've downloaded and verified the new mac.nub release. I have an Asus P5N-E SLI board which is an nForce4 board. I have, at my disposal, if this helps in problem solving, three 10k Raptors 150gb (SATA drives). One of which currently runs Ubuntu Gutsy, where I'm posting from now. My issue is this. I boot with the Mac.Nub cd, and all appears to go as planned. I get to the Select Disk option and no discs are listed, of course since I hadn't had any formatted. I then go to the Disc Utility and it detects all three of my dics, which is beautiful as no other install had gotten me this far. I then attempt to do an erase on of the disc choosing to reformat as a MacOS Journeled. After about 40 minutes it will say it fails or states "that the return code signified an error." I've tried doing this on all three discs, and I know they aren't all bad Heck, I was using all three a week ago. I then decided to do some reading. I'm a long time mac user, my G4 ( ya, i know ) is under my desk right now. But, I'm a complete OSX86 novice. But, I found some interesting ideas. I booted back into linux and formatted the other two discs as AF type using cfdisk. I boot back with the CD and bam, they say HFS+ journeled as the drives, but I can't mount them. I read more and find that people have had success formatting the disk within the Disk Utility on the Install CD after doing this. I wait and after 40 minutes get the same result. I try the repair utility and it returns failure. So, it detects the drive just fine, and I can see the Medevil sata line appearing for all three SATA drives when the install is loading. So, this is where I stand. I do not have access to and IDE drive. I've tried the install with Vmware 6.0 but it couldn't find any of the drives, and I followed some guides on osx86project.org so I assume I was using fairly "knowledgable" material. Please, Please, if anyone has any advice, I'd love it! Thanks! Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Like many of us, you'll have to wait for proper SATA support on nforce 4 boards. I'm having the same problem with my PC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Aha! but Mac.Nub's newest release has support for nforce4 SATA! This is why I've gotten farther than any other install in that it actually saw my Hard Drives. I was just unable to format them. I appreciate your response though, as it at least showed you cared enough to answer Thanks! Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Aha! but Mac.Nub's newest release has support for nforce4 SATA! This is why I've gotten farther than any other install in that it actually saw my Hard Drives. I was just unable to format them. I appreciate your response though, as it at least showed you cared enough to answer Thanks! Keck Really? I'm having the same problem, but I'm trying with Uphuck. I might give Mac.Nub a go see if it works. It's odd, but somehow I got OSX86 to install on a older PC Nforce4 board with a SATA hard drive, but with an IDE DVD Drive (currently using a SATA DVD burner). Well my quest continues. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Yes, as far as I knew, this is the first release that has nForce4 SATA support. Which, is perfect for me so I was really hoping this would work! I just have this odd feeling at this point it's something I'm doing severly wrong Is there some command line option I should be giving before the install even starts to tell it, "Hey, i'm gonna use some nForce4 SATA on this install." I appreciate any help! ~Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krypto Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Same problem here with my 680i board which is Nforce 6 ....the Installation just cannot format my hdd partitions.... Any update on this would be great. Using the Mac.Nub 10.4.10 DVD Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Same problem here with my 680i board which is Nforce 6 ....the Installation just cannot format my hdd partitions.... Any update on this would be great. Using the Mac.Nub 10.4.10 DVD I have sympathy that you have the same issue, but please do not hijack this thread. The forum rules dictate that questions be asked in a certain way. I've already outlined my issue for my hardware. While we may ultimately have the same problem, I do feel this does not help them solve as all it does is take focus away from the thread. Sorry, not meaning to be harsh or rude, but you have your own thread already for this, and I don't believe this how they like to solve issues around here after reading other threads and reading the rules. Thanks! Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medic Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I've been fighting all night with the same configuration (Asus P5N-E SLI + 150GB Raptor) and I had the exact same issue (can't format / mount volume). I did however get a little further and I'll share my opservations here. I'm a noob here so please have that in mind when reading this. I created a partition with Acronis Partition Manager in WinXP and set the type to AF (SwagOS (swap)). I then booted Parted Magic 1.9 (linux livecd) to make the HFS+ file system by opening a terminal and running "mkfs.hfs -J -v MyDisk /dev/sdaX" where X have to be substituted with the real device name (e.g. sda1 or sda2) that can be found by using the graphical partition utility GParted that is included on the livecd. Thereafter i created a Windows NT virtual machine in VMware 6 (with paevm="true" + ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000") and pointed the Hard Disk to my physical hard disk. Thereafter I booted VMware and I was able to install Mac OS X... ... and then I restarted my PC to try running Mac OS X natively ... but then I got lost because I never managed to actualy boot the HFS+ partition, because nothing happened after I set the partition to active, and using the chain0 approach (with WinXP) didn't help, I just got the "chain booting error". Btw I have WinXP on /dev/sda1 and Mac OS X on /dev/sda2 as suggested elsewhere. I've tried mounting the HFS+ partition opening a terminal on the Parted Magic livecd ("mkdir /ramdisk/test" and "mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda2 /ramdisk/test") and browsed the contents and it seems like Mac OS X is installed on the disk but I just don't know how to get any furter (and even if I did I know that Mac OS X will proabably crash during booting because of the experimental nForce SATA drivers... but then I would at least be one step closer to "heaven") Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibblesan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I've got the same board, P5N-E SLi, and I was told by mac.nub that I wouldn't have any problems as the nForce 430i MCP51 was supported by his release. It don't work though. I've tried installing to an IDE drive and I either get diskarb errors, or kernel panics (using the alleged nforce kernel). To be honest, the mac.nub DVD was not ready for release. Far too many people are having problems with it and it appears to have not been tested properly either. keckmat: the problem is, even though there is SATA support, you won't be able to install or write to the discs. The nforce support is pants. You can read from a SATA drive. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Medic, I see, I too got that far with parted magic, but I was never able to see the drive in Vmware. I think you're really close. From what I gather you should do now, is you should boot back into Vmware and go to disk utility. Now that it is able to see your drives, try formatting with MBR instead of apple partition format. If you do this, I fear you might lose windows xp, BUT you can always use the repair utility on your win xp cd to restore your mbr. Then, when in windows modifying your boot.ini file to see your os x. From then on, I think acronis might work for you. I'm going to try this, as I'm reinstalling vmware right now. Let's see if we can make this work. Thanks, Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medic Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Well as far as I remember (it got way to late last night) "Disk Utility" was unable to format / mount the HFS+ volume in VMware, but I could be wrong. That was the reason why I used Parted Magic and mkfs.hfs - but hopefully I'm wrong. Anyway I only tried using "erase" in "Disk Utility" and not "partitioning" with the MBR option. But doesn't "partitioning" with "Disk Utility" destroy my other partitions on the same hard disk? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Medic, yes, it will destroy your MBR. Which, is why I said if it works you may be able to boot into OS X but you would lose your ability to boot into windows. But, the saving grace of this is that you can repair your MBR from the winxp install cd. So, you could then hack your boot.ini file in Winxp to see your mac os x drive and then, hopefully, from there, Acronis will see your Win XP and your OS X! Thanks, Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wayjonny Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Same problem here with my 680i board which is Nforce 6 ....the Installation just cannot format my hdd partitions.... Any update on this would be great. Using the Mac.Nub 10.4.10 DVD {censored} finally it snot just me ... i can format no matter what! i tried to manually format it in other OS's but really what happens to me is i hit format and i never crash or i dont go 40 minutes but i know 10 minutes is more then enough time. I tried alomst 15 times to format the drives I am giving up this weekend. I had a nforce 4 a while ago and installed it but this install disc does not work with 680i 20 bucks to the person who gets this issue fixed out PM ill hit you up in paypal no joke l8tz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 I truly do not appreciate the thread hijacks! There is about a 0% chance of my problem getting even looked at when you all do this. Medic, had the same situation, he offered advice, and we traded it back and forth, hence progress and his posts had value. The rest of you are merely trying to piggy back your issue or give mac.nub the impression I don't value his release, because you all are here to complain about your issue. Truth is, I believe this will work with his release we just are doing something wrong. I have no disdain for the product he provided and I am not here to "Complain." None of you have any reason to complain at all. He is not selling you a product, he is not paid to do any of this. This was someone who used his freetime to attempt to help others. Why don't you try being grateful he at least offered his time to attempt to help you. With that being said, that doesn't mean we can't ask for help to attempt to use his release - without claiming he wasted your time or that it's not a worthy release. =-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------= So, I put the thread hopefully back on topic and ask anyone that has any constructive advice please help with this issue! =-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------= Thanks! Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibblesan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I truly do not appreciate the thread hijacks! There is about a 0% chance of my problem getting even looked at when you all do this. Medic, had the same situation, he offered advice, and we traded it back and forth, hence progress and his posts had value. The rest of you are merely trying to piggy back your issue or give mac.nub the impression I don't value his release, because you all are here to complain about your issue. Truth is, I believe this will work with his release we just are doing something wrong. I have no disdain for the product he provided and I am not here to "Complain." None of you have any reason to complain at all. He is not selling you a product, he is not paid to do any of this. This was someone who used his freetime to attempt to help others. Why don't you try being grateful he at least offered his time to attempt to help you. Keck, stop being an idiot. Other people have the same setup as you with the same problems, and we are trying to work this out. If you don't appreciate other people posting in 'your' thread, then why did you make it in the first place? Seeing as you have such a bad attitude I'll keep my findings to myself and others who don't {censored} at people trying to help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Keck, stop being an idiot. Other people have the same setup as you with the same problems, and we are trying to work this out. If you don't appreciate other people posting in 'your' thread, then why did you make it in the first place? Seeing as you have such a bad attitude I'll keep my findings to myself and others who don't {censored} at people trying to help. What? I think you didn't bother to read what I said at all. I simply said that people should stop complaining about the release not working for them, and directed those who merely said, " I have x hardware and it doesn't work for me either," to go to another thread for their hardware. I think you've either not read what I've said or taken it out of context. I could care less if people post in this thread with relavent information. Krytpo and 1wayjonny provided no information and merely just piggybacked or came to complain. Krypto has different hardware altogether, so his issue isn't even the same as mine. I think you're just upset I called you complaining about a free product you were offered. You did provide some help in your statement and stayed on topic so I am greatful. But then you say that "His release wasn't ready" because it didn't work for everyone ( OR FOR EMPHASIS YOU ). How selfish is that? ~Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibblesan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 What? I think you didn't bother to read what I said at all. I simply said that people should stop complaining about the release not working for them, and directed those who merely said, " I have x hardware and it doesn't work for me either," to go to another thread for their hardware. I think you've either not read what I've said or taken it out of context. I could care less if people post in this thread with relavent information. Krytpo and 1wayjonny provided no information and merely just piggybacked or came to complain. Krypto has different hardware altogether, so his issue isn't even the same as mine. I think you're just upset I called you complaining about a free product you were offered. You did provide some help in your statement and stayed on topic so I am greatful. But then you say that "His release wasn't ready" because it didn't work for everyone ( OR FOR EMPHASIS YOU ). How selfish is that? ~Keck Ok, I apologise. I thought the comment you made was aimed at myself and the others. I still believe the release isn't ready for the masses, as I said, hence why so many people are having problems. This isn't a dig at mac.nub, more constructive criticism. Anyway I am sorry for snapping at you. Hopefully this topic can move along in a more positive fashion. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Ok, I apologise. I thought the comment you made was aimed at myself and the others. I still believe the release isn't ready for the masses, as I said, hence why so many people are having problems. This isn't a dig at mac.nub, more constructive criticism. Anyway I am sorry for snapping at you. Hopefully this topic can move along in a more positive fashion. Very glad to hear it was just a misunderstanding! I certainly have no qualms with you, and since we have the same motherboard hopefully we can work together to find a solution. I'm currently trying the vmware rout. I've reinstalled windows xp so I know have xp and ubuntu on two of my drives. I'm hoping I can use some method between them all to properly format the other harddrive so that I don't have to do it inside the utility, meaning the install coudl get past that point. Thanks, Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-484972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Okay, small update. I tried with VMware from windows now, and it still was unable to see the drives. So, it seems either see the drive via the nforce4 sata support on the mac.nub cd, but be unable to format the disk for install. Or, boot from vmware have a 3x faster install but not be able to see my disks. Either way isn't working for now Still looking for help/ideas! Thanks, Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Keck, I found these drivers for Nforce 4 SATA. I'm not sure wether they're the same as the ones included in the Mac.Nub install, but it wouldn't hurt to give them a go. Hopefully these will fix your problem. Hope it helps, I'm going to try them out in a bit. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindakaas Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I have the same problem... it sees my sata drives, but it just says "not mounted". Im running the eVGA 680i I also tried vmware, but it emulates my sata drives as scsi, which can't be detected in OS X :) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 StevoJD, I do believe these are the ones in the mac.nub install. But, if you have any success with these, please let me know! Thanks, Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibblesan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 The mac.nub DVD has the MeDevil drivers for nforce4. ghakazian has a newer driver here: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=447432 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keckmatd Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 Ah, cool, and it appears envying, a P5N-E SLI user was able to to get the install to see his 320gb sata drive with that version. But, he had the same issue of it hanging. However, by his signature it looks like he was able to get past that somehow as he actually got it to install but claims his install is problematic. Maybe he will venture upon the thread and shed some sanity to it! ~Keck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcaen Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 I have the same problem... it sees my sata drives, but it just says "not mounted". Im running the eVGA 680i I also tried vmware, but it emulates my sata drives as scsi, which can't be detected in OS X You need to modify the vmware config file (.vmx file) to something like this: config.version = "8" virtualHW.version = "6" ide0.present = "TRUE" memsize = "1024" ide0:0.present = "TRUE" ide0:0.fileName = "OSX.vmdk" ide0:0.deviceType = "rawDisk" ide1:0.present = "TRUE" ide1:0.fileName = "H:" ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-raw" floppy0.autodetect = "TRUE" ethernet0.present = "TRUE" ethernet0.connectionType = "hostonly" ethernet0.wakeOnPcktRcv = "FALSE" ethernet0.virtualDev="e1000" Also add: paevm="true" Then use notepad and edit the .vmdk file in that folder. Change adapterType from scsi to ide Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/68067-sata-issue-macnub-10410/#findComment-485336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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