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ecotopian
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Am looking for a fully supported PATA RAID card for my hackintosh. It seems my Sil 0680 PCI card is not supported and want to get a card that is fully supported natively in 10.4.8.

 

Can someone point me to an inexpensive card (preferably on NewEgg) that will allow setting up a RAID 0???

 

TIA..

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bottleNeckKiller
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There are very few (one or two) SATA cards that people said it works and I do not know that it actually works.

SATA controllers are usually come with the mainboards and there are a lot of mainboards with working SATA.

 

SATA controller card: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=24254

bottleNeckKiller
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But with that solution your OS can not be in a RAID partition.

Non-hackintosh OSes are able to work in RAID partition.

Having RAID without the OS on it is pointless to me.

 

With that solution RAID works after you install the OS and not at the time the

OS is being install because the OS does not have the driver for it. And in this way

the OS (again) does not reside in the RAID partition.

ecotopian
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I'm specifically looking at it as a Raid0 for video editing - leaving the OS and apps on a single primary drive on the MoBo's IDE port.

 

I have 2 Seagate 160GB drives ordered from NewEgg arriving next week - I wanted to set these up as a RAID0 for video editing with Final Cut Express while utilizing another 160GB boot and app drive and a 200GB audio drive - make sense???

Guest bikedude880
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I just came across this PATA PCI based raid card that is suppose to be fully supported by OS X - any input???

 

http://www.siig.com/product.asp?catid=130&pid=424

Key Features and Benefits

* Direct support from Mac OS 8.6 or later, 9x and OS X

System Requirements

* Power Mac G3/G4 or Mac computers with one available PCI slot
* Mac OS 8.6 or later

Now, I don't think your PC has a PPC proc in it, nor do Intel based macs have PCI slots... does that answer your question?

macgirl
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RAID does not exist on a hackintosh.

The best thing you can do is spend your time on anything but RAID.

HEY STOP for one second

 

RAID exist and work on hackintoshes, what does not work is BOOTING from RAID sets.

 

So yes you can set up a raid with Disk Utility (I did it once, with PATA drives), there is a program called Softraid (someone claim that could boot on Hackintoshes), there is also cards that suport "hardware" SATA RAID (Silicon Image) does not boot but works as data disk.

ecotopian
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THAT is what I was wondering - I already have a fully functioning boot drive - I want a fully supported RAID card that will allow me to set up a RAID 0 for video editing. Given that it is supported, what RAID cards - PATA or SATA are supported - the info is sparse on the Wiki HCL...

 

I have a Sil0680 PATA Raid card but it seems it isn't seen or supported by 10.4.8 - hence my question.

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ecotopian
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I found this internal SATA card for a pretty good price - based on Sil3132 chipset

 

Question - Can you run a PCI-e card off the second slot if you have a vid card in the first slot???

 

What about an SIL3112 PCI SATA card like this one - Will OS X see this and work on a PCI slot?

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kramer2k
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I found this internal SATA card for a pretty good price - based on Sil3132 chipset

 

Question - Can you run a PCI-e card off the second slot if you have a vid card in the first slot???

 

What about an SIL3112 PCI SATA card like this one - Will OS X see this and work on a PCI slot?

 

Why not try and find out? :)

bottleNeckKiller
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This is all about hardware RAID. No software RAID please.

 

Sure you can have RAID but only when the OS does not exist on it.

When having RAID in this way it is pointless to me that is all.

 

 

bluedigitalmedia, the card you want is HighPoint RocketRAID, for some details see post #6 and

googles it.

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blue_misfit
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Guys, it's really simple.

 

RAID is awesome for video editing (especially for HD) beacuse it offers greater total throughput, which is ABSOLUTELY crucial for capturing uncompressed.

 

Yes, with Mac OS X you can setup a software RAID. It can be VERY fast if you are using large SATA drives (over 150mb/s sustained with 3 drives in RAID 0, I speak from experience). No, you cannot boot from this RAID, so you need at least 3 drives, one for Mac OS X, and at least two, preferably more for the RAID.

 

It's stupid simple. Open Disk Utility. Go to the RAID tab. Select physical drives to dedicate, select striping, set the sizes accordingly and do it. It takes like 5 seconds and you have a very fast RAID.

 

The big downside is that you can't boot from it (who cares, RAID makes little difference in startup / general operations which is all about seek times), and you cant access it from XP, even if you have MacDrive (doesn't support OS X's software RAID implimentation).

 

Now, if you have money and a spare PCI Express slot (yes the other one your graphics card isn't using will work fine. PCIe is PCIe), you should be able to use any of the new PCI Express SATA RAID cards from Sonnet, which have drivers for Intel macs, and also for Windows XP. These abstract the RAID logic from the OS, so that all the OS sees is one large drive. Thus, you could access this gigantic volume from both OSes (native on Mac OS X, and MacDrive for XP), and have full hardware RAID speed, which is much better than software RAID (maybe even boot, but don't count on it).

 

Don't expect an older PCI RAID card that only has PPC OS X drivers to work, because it won't. No Intel macs have PCI slots, so nobody is going to write drivers for these cards on Intel OS X.. Unless there's a good linux driver - then there may be some hope.

 

Software RAID is great though, seriously. With 3 250 GB SATA Drives, I was able to capture UNCOMPRESSED 1080p at 30fps though a Blackmagic card's HD-SDI port. That's over 170mb/s sustained (~1.5 GBit). The software RAID managed this until I started hitting inner tracks (about 75% capacity), and then it slowed to under 150.. = dropped frames = sad misfit.

 

Enjoy.

 

~MiSfit

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WiteWulf
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I really feel I should point out that with the speed of RAID0 also comes a doubled chance of data loss! Striping your data across multiple disks means that if one disk fails you lose *all* your data so you need to either make damn sure you back up regularly or consider using RAID0+1 instead, but then you'll be needing 4 disks and somewhere to put them.

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