Marky Mark Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I have installed Windows XP and Mac OS X 10.4.7 and dual boot using Acronis OS Selector. The only problem I have is OS X is real slow and I heard somewhere that Acronis might be the reason. How can I fix this or how do I dual boot without using Acronis? Please help, I'm a nOOb who's still trying to get things working right. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuke Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hmm well I'm using Acronis OS Selector also and I'm not quite sure if it's going as fast as it used to be. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-283628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I know OS Selector itself is slowish, but I doubt it slows down OSX itself after its boot. Just try the darwin loader instead of OS Selector, or the chain0 method, and compare. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-283940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 How do I do that? Sorry, I'm a nOOb & I don't really know what chain0 means. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-283962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detosx Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Strange as it seems, and it does seem pretty strange to me, I have found that the latest JAS 10.4.8 build is running slower than the old, though it is supposed to run faster. The only difference that I can think of from my original setup is that I am using Acronis OS Selector. Surely that would only effect the bootup time, though. Odd. If that's not it, it may be a bios setting that I am overlooking or a side effect of updating the bios itself, despite then returning the settings to what I thought I had before. Hmm. I will follow this one with interest. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) @MM: See the Acronis OS Selector User Guide to know how to disable it (and how to re-enable it if you want to get back to it later). The manual came with your product, or can be downloaded through acronis' web site. @Detosx: then try disabling AOSS and see if it makes a difference. For a simple dual boot, better go with the boot loaders that come with your existing OSes (ntldr for Win or darwin loader for OSX). Search the Wiki or the board for details, problems, and possible solutions to these problems. Edited January 25, 2007 by cbmkgd Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detosx Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hi cbmkgd, I have variously disabled and deleted AOSS during a frustrating time trying to get a tri-boot system working (now working with AOSS. I noticed that OS X was not running as fast as it did and wondered if there was something new in the new JAS 10.4.8 AMD/Intel release that was slowing it down. It doesn't crawl but nor is it as snappy. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 You could try benchmarking to verify: one session with Acronis enabled, another with AOSS disabled. I just don't know why AOSS would make a difference: it's only a bootloader. Also, it doesn't install/run in OSX at all... But if you can substantiate your claim, then I'll be scratching me head. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detosx Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) I would be scratching my head too cbmkgd! As I say, it does seem pretty strange to me, wildly improbable, but I haven't been able to pin it to anything yet. Deleting the AOSS partition makes no difference but I did note when I first installed AOSS that JAS 104.8 AMD/INTEL seemed to slow down markedly. The timing is in all probability coincidence. Still, it would be good to know what's going on. I don't have time to format the hard drive and start over, will wait until a new... whatever/whoever is replacing JAS. In the meantime, if anyone knows of any links to diagnostic programs or reliably speeding up hackintosh OS X, I would be happy to see them. Edited January 25, 2007 by Detosx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuke Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Well I have to say that I'm also experiencing some slowdown problems, though I'm not sure if this is cause of OS Selector. Just like Detosx I'm feeling that the previous builds went a lot faster. For example my Firefox: If I launch it now for the first time after boot it takes quite a while compared to my previous install, which it liked almost popped up instantly after a second or two. Same for iTunes and Office for mac, everything seems to take longer, but doesn't really slow my computer down. I also started using OS Selector since this build, cause it's a lot easier, but it would be really weird that OS Selector would cause performance issues I guess. I was so happy getting everything running again with this new release, but I'm reallly noticeing that my OSX is going a bit slower, it's not like it used to be . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detosx Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) After installing it, it initially seemed fairly zippy, though not as fast as the previous JAS 10.4.8 reissue which it was said to be faster than; accordingly I wondered if I was just imagining things (I had been using Linux that day and it is lightening fast). How could a boot loader possibly slow down an OS? It couldn't, or at least I can't see how and indeed I have never previously had problems with Acronis OS, just that the timing of installing it seemed to coincide with a more discernible slow down. I would love to format the OS X partition and start again... but! I took the better part of a day out to get everything up and running and I don't want to do that until the next big revision. I'm even tempted to do the totally crazy thing of shelling out for a faster 6400 to replace my 6300, just to bring it back up to spec! Now that would be nuts! Rationally, I'm wondering if the slow down relates to some bios setting or other. I took the board through two bios updates during the preceding week. I am also wondering if Vista beta has slowed down or if something I tried was just massively memory intensive. That OS really is the stuff of nightmares. I'm sure the release candidate is better but... Spuke, what motherboard are you using? I'm using the excellent Asrock Conroe 945G-DVI, Intel core duo 6300, 1gig of non branded memory and a Western Digital Sata hard drive. Did you recently install the latest bios and change the bios settings back to what they were? It may be something obvious. I'm dying for Saturday to come so I can get home and delve. Anyone else notice a slow down rather than a speed up? For example, does Dashboard seem discernibly slower? Edited January 25, 2007 by Detosx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-284935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I took the better part of a day out to get everything up and running and I don't want to do that until the next big revision.Have you tried to do a backup image, with Acronis TrueImage or Sym's Ghost or other? Saves time if something fcks up: you just then restore the image of your base install.(use diskutility to zero out unused sector beforehand: compression will work better) Edited January 26, 2007 by cbmkgd Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-285216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detosx Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Thank you for the suggestion but would those work? I have been finding that not many utilities play ball with HFS+ partitions. When I first got my Mac Mini I posted a question on Apple's own boards about doing what I used to do religiously with my Windows setups using Drive Image Pro. I was told there wasn't a smiliar program for backing up complete OS X partitions. One or two people pointed me to Carbon Cloner and Apple's own tool but neither were offering me what I wanted. Some said I was mad to even think of making rescue images, that OS X was easy to repair , didn't get hit by viruses and so on. In this instance, it would be useful to have a backup image of a clean install. Do you yourself use Acronis to make and restore rescue images? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-286036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I have TrueImage images of osx installs, which upon restoring I could access without any problems when the need came by (say after a dubious app install, or kext fncking, etc). I'm using the darwin bootloader (but sometimes also aoss when testing it). I don't guaranty it'll work for you though; not that i suspect any problem, but since i've been on InsanelyMac i've learned not to take one's solutions as universals Since hfs+ is unknown to TI, it does a sector-by-sector image, which shouldn't change any part of the partition. Just test it: if you have spare place for a primary partition (before extended partition if any), image your existing osx partition with, say, TrueImage, then restore it on that empty spare place (i've only tested on same disk as other osx partitions); of course there should be enough space for the original partition size. If on rebooting you can't get on that 'new' osx partition, then it doesn't work for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39760-system-slow-after-dual-boot-with-acronis/#findComment-286074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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