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...I've just installed this card as a replacement for R9 270X...not sure of correct setup(whether to use WEG or not , and boot args)

Right now using no WEG . Card is recognized in system.

A push in the right direction could sure help...thanks in advance

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thx Slice...my smbios is currently set to Imac17,1 ...which is ok for Monterey...I know if I want to update past Monterey, I'll have change that

...right now, without agdpmod=pikera, I get a system freeze when using GeekBench5...unsure why exactly...but all seems fine now ,matching or exceeding scores for this card...sleeps and wakes....and still using Clover 5145

 

just tried GeekBench5 again and it locked up system on opencl test, mouse still moves, but no interaction, had to force restart with power button...

boot args are dart=0 alcid=1 agdpmod=pikera

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...got rid of dart=0 and alcid=1  ..the first is to disable VT-d i think, and the second was for sound from hd 530...I'll try again with no boot args and see how that goes...🫠

...ok, no boot args...GeekBench5 ran thru tests, opencl and metal without failure, no lock-up....tried GeekBench6 for kicks, and it still locks up system with mouse still active...Live and Learn

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...I believe  I may have committed the cardinal sin of not looking before I leap...the MSI RX 570 has one 8-pin power connector... my power supply has 2 6-pin pci-e power cables...one 6-pin has a 2-pin clip-on. R9 270X had two 6-pin so I just used one 6-pin power cable with the 2-pin clip-on to power the RX 570...I believe this is an error...over @ macrumours I've read that I need a 2 6-pin to one 8-pin pci-e connector...

Would this explain my system freezes(grey screen lock-up or system lock-up with frozen screen and active mouse) when using Geekbench? This has happened using firefox as well

...also when I connect with an active adapter DP/HDMI to HDMI television port I only have @30 fps. HDMI (RX 570) to HDMI(TV) I get @60 fps and system lock-up

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The 6-pin + 2-pin clip should work for the 8-pin connector. RX 570 should not overload the 6-pin wires. You might want to test your card under Windows to see if it is stable. The issue might be the compatibility for this MSI card. Not all RX 570/580 cards are made equal. I had a Sapphire RX 580 OC 8GB which ran perfectly under Windows, but would crash under Monterey as soon as it was under stress. So I switched to an another Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+, all problem went away.

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...still searching, just ran metal test in GeekBench6 ...noticed 306 W spike in total power consumption for RX570 also noticed I have 2 6-pin+2-pin pci-e power cables from psu ...so one 6-pin+2 gives me 150W +pcie gives me 225W , so perhaps still not enough power from just one 6-pin+2 ?

...trying the other 6-pin+2 cable now...

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Your RX 570 card only has one 8-pin connector, so it should be rated <= 150W + 75W (check MSI spec for your card). If its peak power goes higher, then it is up to the power supply to deliver that extra power (via the 6-pin cable). Depending on your power supply design, this may or may not be an issue. Dell T5820 power supply, for example, has all 12V output pins tied together. So it can deliver more power via a single PCI-E cable, as long as the wire gauge is sufficient to carry it.  

 

I'd suggest to test your card under Windows to see if the problem persist. 

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hey STLVNUB ...I've done a semi-teardown here and found that my 2 6-pin+2 pcie power cables actually come from one braided cable...using EVGA 600W PSU

I'm trying to find a not overclocked bios, and try loading thru clover  ATI injection...just to test...right now using DP/HDMI active adapter to TV but only getting  @ 30.00Hz. HDMI to HDMI on TV gives @60Hz

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so far so good macmini 8,1 smbios  ran the luxmark3 bench tool, consistent  power during test was 260 to 299W ... so maybe it's ok?

...gonna run thru a sleep and see if it wakes tomorrow...me too, fingers crossed 🥺

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....oh well, putting the RX 570 on hold for now...to much F**kery for early Feb. thanks to all who chimed in ...I'll see about testing it in windows enviro.

...back to the R9 270X for now...which does function

...on the plus side, I now know I have a working macmini 8,1 config...

 

 

again, thanks to Slice, STLVNUB, and BillDH2k

Happy Hackin'  🤪

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...well that card was cursed...swapped it for another MSI Radeon RX 570 Armor 8GB...running now no WEG , no injection for gfx at all...ioreg shows 6 ports, I only have 5, but I''ll continue this config until something gives...or not...stay tuned 🤨

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HWMonitorSMC2 v2.6.1

VIDEO CARD 1:
    Model:                AMD Radeon RX 570
    Vendor ID:                02 10 00 00 (ATI/AMD)
    Device ID:                df 67 00 00
    Revision ID:            ef 00 00 00
    Subsystem Vendor ID:        62 14 00 00
    Subsystem ID:            1b 34 00 00
    class-code:                00 00 03 00
    IOName:                display
    pcidebug:                1:0:0
    compatible:            pci1462,341bpci1002,67dfpciclass,030000PEGP
    acpi-path:                IOACPIPlane:/_SB/PCI0@0/PEG0@10000/PEGP@0
    hda-gfx:                onboard-1
    pci-aspm-default:                0x0
    IOPCIMSIMode            true
    Additional Properties:
        AAPL,slot-name:                        50 43 49 20 53 6c 6f 74 20 30 00
        AAPL,aux-power-connected:      01 00 00 00
        ATY,SCLK:                     30000
        ATY,memsize:               8589934592
        ATY,MCLK:                    30000
        ATY,DeviceName:         35 37 30 00
        ATY,Part#:                    MS-V34121-F3
        ATY,vram_base:            00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
        ATY,RefClock:               10000
        ATY,FamilyName:          52 61 64 65 6f 6e 20 52 58 00
        ATY,TileInfo:                 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 0c 00 00 00
        ATY,PageFlipEnable:     01 00 00 00
        ATY,remap-size:           1073741824
        ATY,RefCLK:                 10 27 00 00
    Metal properties:
        Recommended Max Working Set Size:    0x0
        Max Threads Per Thread group: width 1024, height 1024, depth 1024
        Depth 24 Stencil 8 Pixel Format:        true
        Max Thread group Memory Length:    65536
        Programmable Sample Positions:        true
        Read-Write Texture:                2
        Removable:                        false
        Headless:                        false
        Is Low Power:                    false
    Performance Statistics:
        vramEvictionWaitTime:                                                  0
        HWChannel Compute1 | Commands Completed:           8
        HWChannel UVDDec | Commands Submitted:               0
        HWChannel UVDDec | Commands Completed:              0
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryHitRate:                           0
        iosurfaceTextureCreationBytes:                                     0
        dataBytesPerSample:                                                     0
        contextCLCount:                                                           1
        stdTexturePageInBytes:                                                 1441792
        swapBytesPerSample:                                                    0
        ioSurfacePageOutBytes:                                                 0
        clientSharedAllocatedBytes:                                          966656
        surfaceBufferReadOutBytes:                                          0
        HWChannel sDMA1 | Commands Submitted:                 12
        orphanedNonReusableVidMemoryBytes:                        0
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryHitRate:                           89
        orphanedNonReusableVidMemoryCount:                      0
        context2DCount:                                                          6
        contextGLCount:                                                           2
        finishGLWaitTime:                                                         0
        oolTextureCreationBytes:                                              0
        recoveryCount:                                                             0
        hardwareSubmitWaitTime:                                            0
        Fan Speed(RPM):                                                           1145
        swapComplete2DWaitTime:                                          0
        stdTextureCreationCount:                                             1
        bufferSwapCount:                                                         0
        ioSurfacePageInBytes:                                                   0
        HWChannel KIQ | Commands Submitted:                      0
        gartSizeBytes:                                                               6442450944
        Temperature(C):                                                            62
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryBytes:                              5141422080
        gartMapInBytesPerSample:                                            0
        HWChannel sDMA0 | Commands Submitted:                 25
        surfaceBufferPageOutBytes:                                          0
        HWChannel GFX | Commands Submitted:                      6
        freeSurfaceBackingWaitTime:                                        0
        surfaceCopyOutWaitTime:                                             0
        bufferFlipCount:                                                           0
        HWChannel SAMU GPCOM | Commands Completed:      0
        swapCompleteVideoWaitTime:                                      0
        oolTexturePageInBytes:                                                 3145728
        HWChannel SAMU RBI | Commands Submitted:             0
        HWChannel VCELLQ | Commands Completed:               0
        gartCacheBytes:                                                            33554432
        surfaceCount:                                                               28
        HWChannel UVDEnc | Commands Submitted:                0
        gartUsedBytes:                                                              168300544
        finish2DWaitTime:                                                        0
        HWChannel VCELLQ | Commands Submitted:                0
        Total Power(W):                                                             250
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryBytes:                              0
        Fan Speed(%):                                                                27
        surfaceWriteLockIdleWaitTime:                                      0
        HWChannel Compute2 | Commands Submitted:            0
        swapCompleteGLWaitTime:                                           0
        HWChannel sDMA1 | Commands Completed:                12
        freeToAllocGPUAddressWaitTime:                                 0
        GPU Activity(%):                                                             100
        HWChannel VCE | Commands Submitted:                      0
        HWChannel Compute1 | Commands Submitted:            8
        texturePageOutBytes:                                                    0
        surfaceTextureCreationCount:                                      0
        iosurfaceTextureCreationCount:                                   0
        Core Clock(MHz):                                                          1244
        inUseVidMemoryBytes:                                                  1353773056
        finishAll2DWaitTime:                                                    0
        surfaceBufferPageInBytes:                                             0
        HWChannel Compute0 | Commands Completed:           0
        HWChannel KIQ | Commands Completed:                     0
        gartFreeBytes:                                                               6274150400
        Device Utilization %:                                                      99
        HWChannel sDMA0 | Commands Completed:                25
        freeDataBufferWaitTime:                                               0
        textureReadOutBytes:                                                   0
        orphanedNonReusableSysMemoryCount:                      0
        dataBufferCount:                                                           0
        surfaceCopyInWaitTime:                                               0
        gartMapOutBytesPerSample:                                         0
        clientGLWaitTime:                                                         76872766
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryCount:                             0
        textureVolunteerUnloadBytes:                                       0
        HWChannel UVDEncLLQ | Commands Completed:         0
        volatileSurfaceCount:                                                    0
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryCount:                             1378
        HWChannel GFX | Commands Completed:                     4
        HWChannel Compute0 | Commands Submitted:            0
        orphanedNonReusableSysMemoryBytes:                        0
        agpTextureCreationBytes:                                             0
        finishCLWaitTime:                                                         0
        stdTextureCreationBytes:                                              1318912
        inUseSysMemoryBytes:                                                  168300544
        Memory Clock(MHz):                                                     1750
        agpTextureCreationCount:                                            0
        HWChannel Compute2 | Commands Completed:           0
        contextVideoCount:                                                      0
        hardwareWaitTime:                                                       76872766
        surfaceBufferTextureCreationCount:                             0
        textureCount:                                                               2207
        vramFreeBytes:                                                             2078175168
        oolTextureCreationCount:                                             0
        agprefTextureCreationBytes:                                         0
        surfaceReadLockIdleWaitTime:                                      0
        agprefTextureCreationCount:                                       0
        freeSurfaceSwapBufferWaitTime:                                   0
        HWChannel VCE | Commands Completed:                     0
        HWChannel SAMU GPCOM | Commands Submitted:       0
        HWChannel UVDEnc | Commands Completed:               0
        HWChannel UVDEncLLQ | Commands Submitted:          0
        ioSurfaceReadOutBytes:                                                0
        surfaceSetShapeIdleWaitTime:                                       0
        finishVideoWaitTime:                                                    0
        HWChannel SAMU RBI | Commands Completed:            0
    VRAM,totalMB: 8192

 

so far have run LexMark 3.1, GeekBench5 and 6, Cinebench, and the visualizer from ITunes...here's what I see in HWMonitorSMC2.app First spoiler is with LexMark running

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HWMonitorSMC2 v2.6.1

VIDEO CARD 1:
    Model:                AMD Radeon RX 570
    Vendor ID:                02 10 00 00 (ATI/AMD)
    Device ID:                df 67 00 00
    Revision ID:            ef 00 00 00
    Subsystem Vendor ID:        62 14 00 00
    Subsystem ID:            1b 34 00 00
    class-code:                00 00 03 00
    IOName:                display
    pcidebug:                1:0:0
    compatible:            pci1462,341bpci1002,67dfpciclass,030000PEGP
    acpi-path:                IOACPIPlane:/_SB/PCI0@0/PEG0@10000/PEGP@0
    hda-gfx:                onboard-1
    pci-aspm-default:                0x0
    IOPCIMSIMode            true
    Additional Properties:
        AAPL,slot-name:                        50 43 49 20 53 6c 6f 74 20 30 00
        AAPL,aux-power-connected:      01 00 00 00
        ATY,RefCLK:                 10 27 00 00
        ATY,PageFlipEnable:     01 00 00 00
        ATY,MCLK:                    30000
        ATY,RefClock:               10000
        ATY,DeviceName:         35 37 30 00
        ATY,TileInfo:                 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 0c 00 00 00
        ATY,memsize:               8589934592
        ATY,SCLK:                     30000
        ATY,vram_base:            00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
        ATY,remap-size:           1073741824
        ATY,FamilyName:          52 61 64 65 6f 6e 20 52 58 00
        ATY,Part#:                    MS-V34121-F3
    Metal properties:
        Recommended Max Working Set Size:    0x0
        Max Threads Per Thread group: width 1024, height 1024, depth 1024
        Depth 24 Stencil 8 Pixel Format:        true
        Max Thread group Memory Length:    65536
        Programmable Sample Positions:        true
        Read-Write Texture:                2
        Removable:                        false
        Headless:                        false
        Is Low Power:                    false
    Performance Statistics:
        swapCompleteVideoWaitTime:                                      0
        freeSurfaceBackingWaitTime:                                        0
        Core Clock(MHz):                                                          1214
        surfaceBufferPageInBytes:                                             0
        HWChannel VCELLQ | Commands Submitted:                0
        HWChannel UVDDec | Commands Submitted:               0
        HWChannel SAMU RBI | Commands Completed:            0
        gartMapOutBytesPerSample:                                         0
        volatileSurfaceCount:                                                    0
        Temperature(C):                                                            51
        agprefTextureCreationCount:                                       0
        HWChannel SAMU GPCOM | Commands Completed:      0
        textureCount:                                                               2047
        orphanedNonReusableVidMemoryBytes:                        0
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryBytes:                              5084852224
        swapCompleteGLWaitTime:                                           0
        surfaceSetShapeIdleWaitTime:                                       0
        surfaceBufferPageOutBytes:                                          0
        freeSurfaceSwapBufferWaitTime:                                   0
        HWChannel SAMU GPCOM | Commands Submitted:       0
        HWChannel Compute0 | Commands Submitted:            0
        stdTextureCreationCount:                                             0
        gartMapInBytesPerSample:                                            0
        inUseVidMemoryBytes:                                                  866009088
        finishGLWaitTime:                                                         0
        finish2DWaitTime:                                                        0
        HWChannel VCELLQ | Commands Completed:               0
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryCount:                             1348
        HWChannel UVDEncLLQ | Commands Submitted:          0
        contextGLCount:                                                           2
        hardwareSubmitWaitTime:                                            0
        surfaceReadLockIdleWaitTime:                                      0
        GPU Activity(%):                                                             0
        stdTextureCreationBytes:                                              0
        ioSurfacePageOutBytes:                                                 0
        hardwareWaitTime:                                                       0
        swapBytesPerSample:                                                    0
        vramFreeBytes:                                                             2622508992
        HWChannel sDMA1 | Commands Submitted:                 9
        Memory Clock(MHz):                                                     300
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryHitRate:                           0
        HWChannel UVDDec | Commands Completed:              0
        HWChannel GFX | Commands Completed:                     5
        HWChannel VCE | Commands Completed:                     0
        iosurfaceTextureCreationCount:                                   1
        orphanedNonReusableVidMemoryCount:                      0
        surfaceCount:                                                               28
        Device Utilization %:                                                      3
        HWChannel sDMA0 | Commands Submitted:                 23
        HWChannel KIQ | Commands Submitted:                      0
        surfaceWriteLockIdleWaitTime:                                      0
        dataBytesPerSample:                                                     0
        HWChannel KIQ | Commands Completed:                     0
        swapComplete2DWaitTime:                                          0
        ioSurfacePageInBytes:                                                   0
        surfaceBufferReadOutBytes:                                          0
        gartCacheBytes:                                                            33554432
        HWChannel Compute2 | Commands Submitted:            0
        freeDataBufferWaitTime:                                               0
        finishCLWaitTime:                                                         0
        bufferSwapCount:                                                         0
        surfaceBufferTextureCreationCount:                             0
        surfaceCopyOutWaitTime:                                             0
        Total Power(W):                                                             60
        textureVolunteerUnloadBytes:                                       0
        agpTextureCreationCount:                                            0
        clientSharedAllocatedBytes:                                          872448
        HWChannel UVDEnc | Commands Completed:               0
        recoveryCount:                                                             0
        inUseSysMemoryBytes:                                                  32776192
        stdTexturePageInBytes:                                                 1245184
        iosurfaceTextureCreationBytes:                                     0
        HWChannel Compute0 | Commands Completed:           0
        HWChannel SAMU RBI | Commands Submitted:             0
        dataBufferCount:                                                           0
        orphanedNonReusableSysMemoryBytes:                        0
        oolTextureCreationBytes:                                              0
        HWChannel Compute1 | Commands Submitted:            0
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryBytes:                              0
        finishAll2DWaitTime:                                                    0
        gartSizeBytes:                                                               6442450944
        freeToAllocGPUAddressWaitTime:                                 0
        contextCLCount:                                                           0
        surfaceCopyInWaitTime:                                               0
        texturePageOutBytes:                                                    0
        HWChannel Compute2 | Commands Completed:           0
        orphanedNonReusableSysMemoryCount:                      0
        Fan Speed(RPM):                                                           0
        orphanedReusableVidMemoryHitRate:                           88
        HWChannel UVDEncLLQ | Commands Completed:         0
        textureReadOutBytes:                                                   0
        contextVideoCount:                                                      0
        agprefTextureCreationBytes:                                         0
        orphanedReusableSysMemoryCount:                             0
        finishVideoWaitTime:                                                    0
        oolTexturePageInBytes:                                                 3145728
        bufferFlipCount:                                                           0
        HWChannel UVDEnc | Commands Submitted:                0
        vramEvictionWaitTime:                                                  0
        gartFreeBytes:                                                               6409674752
        clientGLWaitTime:                                                         0
        gartUsedBytes:                                                              32776192
        ioSurfaceReadOutBytes:                                                0
        HWChannel sDMA0 | Commands Completed:                23
        HWChannel sDMA1 | Commands Completed:                9
        oolTextureCreationCount:                                             0
        surfaceTextureCreationCount:                                      0
        context2DCount:                                                          6
        HWChannel VCE | Commands Submitted:                      0
        HWChannel Compute1 | Commands Completed:           0
        HWChannel GFX | Commands Submitted:                      5
        agpTextureCreationBytes:                                             0
        Fan Speed(%):                                                                0
    VRAM,totalMB: 8192

 

 

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...ok, now have settled on WEG,

just to have gfx ports 5 instead of 6 with no injection....I think we have a winner

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...thanks for the responses...I do believe the rx 570 that I started with  was a complete burn-out,may be a miner? but this replacement has functioned fine over the last couple of days....can't seem to find anything that locks it up...like the other card, surely draws lots of power under load(270-300W according to HWMonitorSMC2) but that's coming from a 480W 12v rail, so I think I'm safe...Happy Trails 😄

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