mijo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Hi all, Apple dropping on-going development for FireWire devices that were supported with the Core Audio driver standard is a catastrophe for a lot of struggling musicians who need to both keep up to date on security updates that come with new OS releases, and continue to utilise their hard earned investments in very expensive and still pristine audio devices that have been reduced to e-waste by Apple's seemingly tone-deaf ignorance in the cries for on-going support. I have one of said audio devices, and I'd like to keep using it while keeping my 2019 Intel Mac Book Pro up to date with the latest security updates and OS features. I also have a late 2015 Mac Book Pro that I've recently also updated to Ventura using the wonderful tool from the OpenCore project. I also tried to connect my Mackie 1640i desk to that computer and got the exact same result as on the 2019 MBP. Probably not the first time you gurus working on the OpenCore project have had someone make the logical leap leading to a request for something like this, but I was wondering if it might be somehow possible of shoe-horning the code used in previous versions of Mac OS that allowed the Mac to speak with the audio features of such devices to run inside the Ventura version of the OS. Would it possible? Would it involve a lot of work? I don't think I'd be the only person willing to pay a developer to come up with a third party paid application that restored this functionality. There's have to be 100's of thousands of people who would be happy to spare some cash to stop their multi-thousand dollar investment in gear to be pointlessly resigned to the scrap heap. Any comments or layman-friendly explanations as to why this couldn't happen would be gratefully received! Thanks, em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndungu6678 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 12/3/2022 at 5:19 AM, mijo said: Hi all, Apple dropping on-going development for FireWire devices that were supported with the Core Audio driver standard is a catastrophe for a lot of struggling musicians who need to both keep up to date on security updates that come with new OS releases, and continue to utilise their hard earned investments in very expensive and still pristine audio devices that have been reduced to e-waste by Apple's seemingly tone-deaf ignorance in the cries for on-going support. I have one of said audio devices, and I'd like to keep using it while keeping my 2019 Intel Mac Book Pro up to date with the latest security updates and OS features. I also have a late 2015 Mac Book Pro that I've recently also updated to Ventura using the wonderful tool from the OpenCore project. I also tried to connect my Mackie 1640i desk to that computer and got the exact same result as on the 2019 MBP. Probably not the first time you gurus working on the OpenCore project have had someone make the logical leap leading to a request for something like this, but I was wondering if it might be somehow possible of shoe-horning the code used in previous versions of Mac OS that allowed the Mac to speak with the audio features of such devices to run inside the Ventura version of the OS. Would it possible? Would it involve a lot of work? I don't think I'd be the only person willing to pay a developer to come up with a third party paid application that restored this functionality. There's have to be 100's of thousands of people who would be happy to spare some cash to stop their multi-thousand dollar investment in gear to be pointlessly resigned to the scrap heap. Any comments or layman-friendly explanations as to why this couldn't happen would be gratefully received! Thanks, em Firewire support is still there in Ventura! Does your hardware have a Texas Instrument (TI) chipset ? If so it should be recognised automatically. I made my VIA Firewire PCIE card work in Ventura Beta 4 (22C5059b). Had to make some DSDT edits for it to be recognised because of the unsupported chipset, but finally after a long struggle, got it working! Currently running OC 0.8.7 I have an old Sony HD broadcast quality Camcorder camera I still use which unfortunately can only connect to my hack via firewire. Like you I still want to keep using good but expensive old hardware that serves my needs. Part of the DSDT code used: Build 1: iMac20,2, i5-9400F, Samsung 16GB DDR4 RAM, MSI Z390 Gaming Plus, Radeon RX 580 8GB, OC 0.8.7 Edited December 7, 2022 by ndungu6678 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijo Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) FireWire disks are still supported, and my device is being seen, but the Core Audio component of the support for this protocol is removed and I'm being told elsewhere, is not going to ever be restored in future versions of the OS. If there was a third-party piece of code that could provide the missing gap, I'd happily pay money for it. Edited December 10, 2022 by mijo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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