johto Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks for this tip. I got it working. Just installed 10.4.7 to physical drive using vmware and managed to get my MSI GF6600GT AGP 128MB, 22 CRT display working just fine at 1600x1200@85Hz. My hardware includes P4 2.4@3.0GHz (Northwood SSE2) and Asus P4P800 Mobo ... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfresh Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 I have a question for the experts here. As mentioned, I ve got titan giving me basic support for my NV Card but no QE/CI of course as still running on 10.4.6. Now i made a test, just for fun, with xbench. As a surprise, quartz and opengl benchmarking worked !! But WHY ? I thought there shouldnt be any opengl support or something, why is xbench then able to test it ? Find a picture of my xbench results attached. screen.tiff Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacRetail Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Xbench always gives you results on Quartz and OpenGL, even if those are emulated by software. Titan.kext might give you accelerated OpenGL support... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Birra Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I have a question for the experts here. As mentioned, I ve got titan giving me basic support for my NV Card but no QE/CI of course as still running on 10.4.6. Now i made a test, just for fun, with xbench. As a surprise, quartz and opengl benchmarking worked !! But WHY ? I thought there shouldnt be any opengl support or something, why is xbench then able to test it ? Find a picture of my xbench results attached. Quartz is always available. What you are missing is Quartz Extreme (QE) as well as Core Image (CI). The OpenGL is also always available via the software renderer provided by apple. No real acceleration though... Fernando Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_7 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 can somenone write a little howto for this?? i have amd sse3 system and nvidia and would like to give it a go.. i already read this forum and still got confused with the steps..thanks in advance.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptesone Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 OK, i installed the new Titan.kext with all 10.4.8 kexts listed in this topic (exept NVDAResman.kext).It boots up, System Profiler show my NVidiacard as an NVDIA Geforce 3 Ti 200 (so it shows it corretly). QE/CI are disabled, no real speed difference noted and i can't change resolutions. But it's a start ok, what with what kernel version and what version of NVDAResman.kext are you running? when I boot w/Titan.kext I get: "NVDA::start(display)" and "NVDA::start(display)<1> failed" Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-226947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathdude1284 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 MacRetail doesn't actually have the accel drives loaded, just titan. Titan can identify your card but its up to the accel drivers to support res changing and ci qe @ptesone: i have the same error as you. It seams to come from nvdaresman. I am on 10.4.4 kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-227193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacRetail Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 MacRetail doesn't actually have the accel drives loaded, just titan. Titan can identify your card but its up to the accel drivers to support res changing and ci qe Yeah, i know I think its a NVDAResman or NVDANV20Hal problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-227206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixblicker Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I have to warn you about replacing the OpenGL.framework with the one from 10.4.8. After this (and using the latest Titan.kext) I got much better XBench results (39.72 instead of 1.67) but Blender and Maxon Cinema are crashing right after the start! So be careful! Using a Pentium M 2.13 (NO-SSE3) with 10.4.7, Titan.kext, 10.4.8 NV*.kext and 8.4.1 kernel! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-227255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_7 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 to experts out there.. can't omni's theory be applied to old kernel?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-227296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptesone Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 believe me, If I had a million dollars- I mean, I mean if I had an Intel processor, I would definatley be installing a new kernel like now! But, I'm AMD and I don't know of many kernels that are for my SSE3 AMD chip. . . sadness. . . Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-227575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
letni Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 maybe some here can help me. Here is hardware AMD Athlon X2, NForce 410 (mATX based Motherboard) Nvidia 6800XT PCIe - eVGA Had 10.4.6 - > 10.4.8 (10.4.4 kernel) via Jas update w/ macvidia 1.08 drivers working (requires cscreen to be called in /etc/rc to fix "out of range" problem) Moved out what I though were kexts from macvidia... tried droping in 10.4.8 kexts posed in this forum in zip file. Added 11/4 Titan.kext Chanced permissions on all kexts to root:wheel -r Delete Extensions.mkext, Extensions.kextcache and ran kextcache -k .. Rebooted Now If I boot with -v I can watch what loads. I never see anything about nvidia graphics and the windowserver says it loads, but I never get to a GUI environment, it always stays in text. I do see a few lines that are printed that say- display: family specific matching fails I have tried moving out Geforce.kext, IONDRVSupport.kext in different combinations.. nothing works Could you people do me a few favors? 1. I would like someone who has this working to send me a listing of all files in /System/Library/Extensions (by doing a "ls -ltr /System/Library/Extensions > ~/KextList.txt) so I can compare what filies are out there. Maybe I have something left over from macvidia 2. Can someone post the older version of IONDRVSupport.kext since a few of you mentioned that helps. 3. Has anyone heard anything about putting in hardware ID's for video cards? 4. Any suggestions. Update: 1. I had permissions screwed up.. did chown with -r not -R. Now all permissions should be proper.. I see Titan.kext load and detect my video card, but its bitching about IONDRVSupport.kext now and no change of screen mode to gui. 2. Looking at what is loading, I see the following with -v (still no gui/mouse) kextd[32]: a link/load error occured for kernel extension /System/Library/Extensions/Geforce.kext kextd[32]: can't find extensions with id com.apple.GeForce kextd[32]: kld_load_from_memory() failed for module /System/Library/Extensions/IONDRVSupport.kext kextd[32]: a link/load error occured for kernel extension /System/Library/Extensions/IONDRVSupport.kext Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-232795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macosx86 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 it's actually working fine here, (whoa. my mouse have a shadow now. switching resolution have fade effect. age of empires ii works extremely fast...) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-232920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathdude1284 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 and how did you do that? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-232923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
letni Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I figured it out for my setup - Nforce Based board Geforce 6800 XP PCIe Athlon 64 X2 I took all the kexts from the new 10.4.8 package except IONDRVSupport.kext which is 1.4.2 (from 10.4.6). I had to edit the Info.plist in the following kext to have the hardware ID of ONLY my video card (they had many IDs listed) Geforce.kext NVDAResman.kext NVDANV40Hal.kext And once I had these modifications and the Titan.kext in, I was able to change resolutions and my xbench scores went up. Next step is to get the 10.4.8 AMD kernel so I have Quartz Extreme Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/31816-titankext-with-1046-its-not-useless/page/3/#findComment-233350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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