TheMadJester Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Well so the other day, when my friend was showing of his mac book pro, I decided to make a hackintosh and find out what this craze was all about. So I came here (good source of information) And the truth? there is alot of information. So, I read around and found out a good place to start would be with Mac OS x86 Jas 10.4.6.ISO The Following is a VERY stupid question (preceeded by a stupid story) feel free not to reply if you have better things to do. Now, I have a decent amount of computer competancy, but (lol) I have yet to burn a disc that boots and im running out of dvds lol. History of DVD wastage: DVD1: Burnt 'unfixed' image of os x also forgot to set it to be a bootable disc. DvD2: Got a better ISO and tried burning again this time the program didnt burn the image but burned a 500 kb bootable index file >.< DvD3: I try it again, this time making sure image is selected properly, burns a DVD that doesnt boot This is were I smarten up and stop using CSBurner xp pro 3. DvD 4: program didnt burn the ISO I selected ... again lol.... now, all the guides I have looked at (and I have read many indeed now) say to "burn a bootable CD of your Mac OS x86 image" but behond that, they dont clarify how that might best be done lol. So, before I waste my last dvd, how should I do this properly? I think part of my problem is that the images I do burn as bootable CDs make themselves bootable to windows, not for mac? I also find that I get this error in many programs when I try to burn the disc "error: cannot burn files over xx Gb" so to put it simply whats the foolproof (and I mean foolproof) way to do this? In the past I have never bothered to burn any of my rips, I always just mounted them with daemon tools. Note: at this point I have- MagicISO PowerISO Nero (older version) Alchahol 120% CDburner XP pro 3 - to work with formatting was easy, it seems burning the DVD is the trick... Note: While I may not be the cleverest when it comes to boot discs, I do have my DvD drive set as my primary boot device in the bios. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaS Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Nero will burn the iso fine.Also you can use a dvd-rw. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-194801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 /bow I'm not worthy! I'll try that, I'm just hoping that I wont need to do anything other than set the program to make the DvD bootable. I really got to invest in an external hardrive lol But seriously, very sorry to bother you Jas, your help is much appreciated. Next time I'll buy a stack of 50 DvDs, so I wont have this problem On a side note: turns our I managed to do something right my Kubuntu CD boots, but then again, murphy's law is with me there, as I have about 30 black CDs to work with lol. Edit Edit: the RW would have been a very good idea >.< but then again while I was at work thinking about which CD to buy I was thinking "I couldnt possable make more then four coasters" Im just about done updating Nero... tribulation is aproaching hehe... Edit Edit Edit: Well, as far as Kubuntu is concerned... lol I managed to mess up the admin password during the installation... lol, formatting time.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-194807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I'm just hoping that I wont need to do anything other than set the program to make the DvD bootable. Don't do that. It has nothing to do with OSX. Just burn the iso image to the DVD. Don't get fancy. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-194872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Don't do that. It has nothing to do with OSX. Just burn the iso image to the DVD. Don't get fancy. Don't get fancy, WHY CAN'T I TAKE ADVICE! I decided (for some crazy reason) to get very fancy, that Kopy (<----- ha ha Kubuntu joke) of Kubuntu I burnt was looking so tempting and I just couldn't help running and installing it... using up the space I made for mac, lol. Partition magic (see murphy's law) of coarse refused to make a Fat 32 primary partition for my OS x install, so I simply had to install Kubuntu twice (and yes, I am a hack lol), then format it. so now I have a primary fat32 for my os x install, But my DVD doesnt boot, I figured I would simply use grub as my OS selector, so just boot computer, hit enter when boot from CD/DVD came up-install and OS X well, the drive knows its not not empty, and stays active trying to read, but eventually gives up and boots to grub. At least when I finally do et this working it will be faster when I do it all over again on my laptop, lol. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callysto Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 The disc image already contains the boot part there is no need to create a bootable DVD, just burn the .iso to a disc it's so simple and do it at a low recordind speed to minimise errors when the disc is read Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
retailer Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 really. start nero, select open -> file and select the iso, burn it. running Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Gotcha, Think I got it nailed this time, thanks for the help BTW One problem however, when I try to boot from the CD, I shutdown>restart>hit 12 for boot selection>Select CD/DVD> and... Acrosis OS selector shows up not the OS X install! >.< I think while I may have the process nailed it may have either burnt a coaster or BT might have messed it up while downloading. The reason I think this is Windows, power ISO and the other programs cannot read the CD either. Any good programs/methods to varify my bootdisk and/or ISO? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishOX Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Try to get the repacked .dmg image by JaS... Then burn it in Windows using TRANSMAC v7.2... Keep it original and keep it simple. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wondergod Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 disable acronis boot selector before you install macosx86 unless you want to live in mbr hell. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 mbr? loik zomg! ADA! errr, what does that mean? I can guess (motherboard ___ hell?) Through you are right, its slow to boot this way, and its changing ASAP, just baby steps here, going to get mac OS x working first. ( the r words I can potentially place in that sentence worry me Also, I think your right, if it doesnt work this time I should just get a new copy. Thanks for the tip about the .dmg, I knew that is a Mac ISO image format but the ones I had (deleted them >.<) wouldnt load into my ISO burning programs even with the namechange trick. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 MBR - master boot record - the info on the hard drive for booting the various partitions. Acronis can easily corrupt this data and booting any partition becomes very difficult. DMG - Do NOT download the 10.4.7 DMG or you will waste a lot more DVD's. Fortunately, the DMG is very difficult to find now. The DMG is a compressed DMG. UltraISO, Transmac and DMG2ISO among others in Windows and Linux cannot correctly expand and burn this compressed DMG. They always make an ISO image that is too small (ie - missing data) and not bootable. There is an 11-page thread on the board where users threw everything possible at the DMG and could not crack it on Windows or Linux. It can only be expanded on OSX. The ISO-Repack of 10.4.7 is where a user expanded the DMG on OSX, created an ISO of the image, compressed it as RAR and then posted it on a torrent site. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-195972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Sweet deal, I couldnt find the DMG like you predicted, so I started getting the Repacked ISO which looked like the next best thing, glad to here it is in fact thee best thing ! As for acronis, Dilnalomo's guide : http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=11339 Suggests it's use. Alot of people seem to be having success with his method, so I would be curious to hear more. As indicated by your postcount you are by no means inexperianced were OS x is concerned (do you live here? ). but in all seriouslness, my understanding is Darwin is for people already with a mac installation, Grub just complicates things and I have no plans yet to make a linux partition for my laptop, if technologically sound, Acronis seems the next logical choice. Edit: had to make my data accumulation methods more vague. Edit Edit: I see you reading this Rammjet . IS the food they serve here anygood BTW? hehe Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Darwin gets installed with OSX. If you be sure to set the OSX partition as "active" and boot into OSX after installation, a quick mod to the boot.plist file will reveal the Darwin bootloader and no other is needed. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=188186 However, I use Acronis because the guide I used recommended it as well. If you choose Acronis, be sure to create the bootable recovery CD because Acronis can randomly get corrupt and you will need a way to repair it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ah, that makes sence, that is what il do then. BTW thank you very much for your help! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 As indicated by your postcount you are by no means inexperianced were OS x is concerned I bought my first Mac the year they came out - 1984. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ever so carefully Jester loads (his seventh) DvD into his (ever so beutifull) Toshiba Laptop, and reboots. In what seems like an eternity the bios screen loads, "F12 for boot selection," with reflexes that could only be fueled by pure desperation he hammers F12 on his keyboard. Instinct imediatly directs him to "boot from CD/DvD" and once again he pounces, merciless in his attack. The screen changes... Boot from DVD... Boot from DvD... Nan0 seconds spiral into milli seconds, milli seconds into seconds and seconds into... timeout and boot from windows XP! With a feral cry of rage Jester hawls like a tormented beast (and his roomate, henseforth refered to as bob, is like, "WTF?") his anger is uncontrollable... and as reality final melts away from him, leaving him cold and alone in the darkness of his mind, he sees "Welcome to windows XP" So anyways... ya, that pretty much describes what happens when I try to boot my Mac os x disks. As it turns out some of the other 6 I burned may not have been coasters after all, they just dont read. I have of coarse tried my desktop to, and no luck It seems that none of the Legitimate *caugh* *cuagh* copies I optained want to boot... The beast is going to get free soon... lol... Bob should be scared too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Just for grins... Boot into XP. Insert the DVD. Examine the files in Windows Explorer. If you see a handful of files with "boot" in the file name, then the DVD should be OK. If you see only one file with "iso" in the name, then you have been burning the iso incorrectly. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 When I try to open it in explorer I get an error, But loading it in Daemon tools seems to work. Which would (stronly) suggest that you are right, Im mucking it up. As Jas suggested I have been trying the keep it simple approch and burning it with nero, never the less it seems that its burning as an ISO anyways. (or its just conspiracy by Bob, apple and microsoft) Were human error is concerned, I am going to buy a DvD-\+RW and simply write and rewrite intill it works , quantity over quality FTW! Edit, edit: I think I will actually just unpack the ISO, and use nero to manually select each file and burn it, hopefully thats not what I was supposed to do all along. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishOX Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 My recommendation is to get: TORRENT HARVESTER http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/22/180243/Torrent%20Harvester%20v0.7b.zip Search for: jas Find a torrent with some nice seeders and tons of leechers. The correct images are about 2.9 GB... It will say it's a dem0n0id torrent... Get it and throw away those coasters. When obtained burn it at the slowest speed possible. Abandon ship using Acronis. Use Hiren's BOOT CD. This is also found using TORRENT SPY. Burn nice and slow. Boot using Hirens and proceed: Select partitioning tools -> option 1 Then pick Acronis Disk Manager -> option 2 Create a new partition of FAT32 and make it PRIMARY. Apply changes and reboot. If while loading the JaS installation DVD something fails, it's now time to check your bios settings. Can you post your model # and system stats in your signature please? It will help us. But follow the above steps to get all that you need for preparation. Credits go to the OSX86 community for this, I'm only relaying a more stream lined procedure which works for many after trying all the other more complicated methods. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Sig is updated. Were partitions are concerned I have set aside 20 GB of unpartitioned space, my understanding is the Mac OS x disc utility will make its own changes. The ISO im using is 10.4.7 Repacked by Jas in ISO form, I have three others one of them should work! What are the Benefits of having the primary partition already made? wont mac OSx reformat it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishOX Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Making it FAT32 is a high recommendation from experienced users... Making it PRIMARY is REQUIRED by OSX... During the install, pick TOOLS -> DISK UTILITY -> Erase Format as MAC JOURNALED and then ERASE. You can then close Disk Utility and begin your CUSTOMIZED installation. Pick the patches you need cross your fingers... I HOPE you have finally started to read the WIKI, HCL, and guides... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-196877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadJester Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Well, I have finally had a taste of success! I did another attempt of a burn with power DvD, and for reasons unbenownst (sp?) to myself it actually was bootable. On my toshiba laptop, it got as far as to boot the kernal and tell me to reboot, I havent tried dasableing a core yet, thats probably the problem. On my desktop (Pentium 4, 1 gig ram, 128 mb ATI) The installation boot right to the part were one selects were the OS X files will be place, it didnt detect my Fat 32 partition, so I ran disc utility and tried to reformat my OS x partition to Mac OS Journaled (extended), sadly, I got the "Could not write partition map" error, not 100% sure what that means yet, but I know windows wont boot now (BTW Rammjet TYVM for the acronis boot CD tip, looks like I will be getting some use from my boot CD already) lol, anyways... EDIT: just tried disableing the one core one the laptop, no dice Tommarow, I will run it with a -v mode ad try to get some screenies... If it starts, and stops like that could, the fact that it started at all should mean my vid card is mostly ok at least? (suprise suprise) vid card is not on the HCL but that doesnt seem to mean much. Assuming I do get windows up and running again on the desktop, Im guessing the error meant that mac didnt like the way the drive was formatted? (FAT 32) I have read that its something like that or my HD is incompatable. The HD is a Maxtor 80 gig, I didnt see a HD section on the HCL Other then that its a gigabyte GA-81G1000MK, not on the HCL (of coarse) Other then the HD prob While running the install from the CD everything seemed smooth and working well, will be nice when I get it working. (if windows wont work im just going to try to reformat the whole drive from mac, who needs windows on desktop anyways? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-197331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 If you try a clean install of OSX only, read this first: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=197262 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-197527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishOX Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 I'd like to help you MadJester but I'm a bit confused... Are you installing this on a desktop or laptop? My advice is to take 1 at a time... It might be best for you to tell us what you have done in preparation and planning as well as what stats you're working with for your first task. Example: 1 Hirens Boot CD v8.4 1 OSX 10.4.X Installation DVD 1 Toshiba Laptop Blah blah blah Also, remember when reading the HCL it's OK to look under previous HCLs. Search each HCL for previous versions not just the one you're using. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/28451-the-last-dvd/#findComment-199611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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