dexx Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hi, i have cloned my working vmware image to a usb disc for using it directly from my pc. The problem is the System hangs in the boot procedure (see screenshot). Is that a problem from my System, the Installation or the USB Drive ? System specification: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (old Clawhammer without SSE3 ) Asus K8vDeluxe Via chipset Thanks for help and sorry for my English Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelogic Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hi,i have cloned my working vmware image to a usb disc for using it directly from my pc. The problem is the System hangs in the boot procedure (see screenshot). Is that a problem from my System, the Installation or the USB Drive ? System specification: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (old Clawhammer without SSE3 ) Asus K8vDeluxe Via chipset Thanks for help and sorry for my English <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hmm I haven't heard of booting from a usb hd, hadnt thought of that! Don't quote me on this (as I'm not completely familiar with those error messages), but it looks like something is wrong with it coming off the usb. I'd try loading it off your main hard drive via the dual boot method (imo). http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Dual_Booting That method worked for me perfectly. Again, I dont know much about those messages, so someone else could possibly give you a clearer explanation. Good luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-1761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEggman Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have MacOSX86 running via external USB drive. It works great from my PC, but when I put it on my laptop, I get the exact same error. I suggest trying it on a diff computer real quick. Go to BestBuy, they have a bunch on display. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-1787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer123 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have MacOSX86 running via external USB drive. It works great from my PC, but when I put it on my laptop, I get the exact same error. I suggest trying it on a diff computer real quick. Go to BestBuy, they have a bunch on display. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dr.Eggman, Could you post the specs of your laptop and the computer you tried ? Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-1790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryK Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I got it "working" on an HP ZD7000. I was having a hardtime and heres what worked for me. Jump USB drive as single In system Bios make the USB HD the first itiem in the list and disbale all the others. Sounds strange I know I just tried it on a whim and it worked !! Now my CPU is on SSE2 and I can't get Safarie to run for more than a page at a time and can't get my screen res running at true 1680 x 1050 either. It looks like it is streching it if I enter it on boot-up but not a true 1680x1050 ( I'm still happy to have it running of an external drive. I think it has alot to do with you BIOS as to wether you can boot this way or not. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-1926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imjustabill Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Im having the same problems of it hanging while booting. And to answer some previous questions, if you can't seem to boot off you're USB HD, and you have your BIOS configured right, you might need to disable your IDE HD (do this in the BIOS under IDE settings or something like that). My computer was recognizing the disk, but decided to boot of the IDE one anyways. This seemed to fix the problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-1947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogi Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I got it "working" on an HP ZD7000. I was having a hardtime and heres what worked for me. Jump USB drive as single In system Bios make the USB HD the first itiem in the list and disbale all the others. Sounds strange I know I just tried it on a whim and it worked !! Now my CPU is on SSE2 and I can't get Safarie to run for more than a page at a time and can't get my screen res running at true 1680 x 1050 either. It looks like it is streching it if I enter it on boot-up but not a true 1680x1050 ( I'm still happy to have it running of an external drive. I think it has alot to do with you BIOS as to wether you can boot this way or not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a zd7000 too, and i'm getting a kernel panic. i disabled all the other drives except my external one. is there anything else you did that was special? which installation method did you use? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexx Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 i have tried it on 2 others Pcs without a result, other error but its not working to Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexx Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 A new try: i have insert the hard drive in the pc directly. Now is the system booting, but only with -x flag (save mode). When i try it in the normal mode the system will stop with a green restart screen, any ideas ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryK Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Im having the same problems of it hanging while booting. And to answer some previous questions, if you can't seem to boot off you're USB HD, and you have your BIOS configured right, you might need to disable your IDE HD (do this in the BIOS under IDE settings or something like that). My computer was recognizing the disk, but decided to boot of the IDE one anyways. This seemed to fix the problem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I used the simple method "dd"ed the tiger image to a old 10 gig drive I put in my external case. The external drive is set to the default single drive jumper setting not master has was sugested to me. Hope you can get her running. I'm no expert just playing. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 I successfully booted OSX86 from my USB Hard drive (Pocketec 20 gb), but, too bad, my USB mouse and my keyboard doesn't work... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanakin Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 A gentle plea for people to give more details, otherwise we don't learn very much. FWIW, I put a dd tiger image on a USB drive and tried to boot two different model Thinkpad X40s using the "boot from USB HDD" option in the BIOS but neither booted successfully. Just got half a screen of "99"s. Would have like to try disabling the internal hard drive, but there doesn't appear to be any option to do that. The same image DOES run in VMware on those laptops, so it's either a boot problem or I didn't do the dd correctly, although Transmac does show the OSX files are on the USB drive. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 If you want to know: 1. In Windows, using dd, I writed tiger-x86-flat.img on my external hard drive. 2. In the BIOS, I changed the boot order of my hard drive to make my USB Hard Drive booting first. In my case, it was not necessary to use "USB-HDD" option. 3. Nothing else... wait and see if it works. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanakin Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Manic, I appreciate the reply. Actually what I was curious about was the hardware. There is by now quite a lot about various methods to get the OS installed, but, IMO, not enough yet about what sort of hardware works. What PC/laptop are you using? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I've added my computer to the Hardware Compatibility List here: Custom Intel [Pentium D 820 (2.8 Ghz); Gigabyte GA-8I945P Pro] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-2790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanakin Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Some progress and some success. First, I realised I did the deadmoo dd wrongly - used the wrong naming for the target disk, so I re-dd'd the image using this command: "dd bs=1048576 if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0" (but please check your own drive designations - DO NOT just copy this command). Then back to the Thinkpad X40. Hook up the external 2.5 inch drive via USB, boot up, hit F12 and select the USB drive as the boot device. A little better now - at least I get to the grey screen with the grey Apple logo. But then I get the Reboot message. I try various options - disable the onboard drive (by removing it from boot device list - that's what the Thinkpad help file says), try -x to boot into safe mode, try "platform=X86PC|ACPI -x" which someone else suggested. All no luck - same Reboot message. Using -v shows there's some sort of kernel panic. Then I attached the drive to a Dell OptiPlex SX280 (P4 530 CPU), switch on, hit F12 to change the boot device to USB and yes! The OS boots up. Screen looks pretty good, some slight artifacts in the menus but nothing annoying. Unfortunately can't get the networking going (it's an integrated Broadcom 10/100/1000 device). Unfortunately co-workers and IT departments don't like you playing around on their PCs so I couldn't test it any more, but at least I know I now have a working deadmoo image. But at least now I know you definitely CAN boot from an external hard drive. The next step is finding out why it works on some machines and not others. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-3238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanakin Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 OK, still trying to boot off the USB HDD on my Thinkpad X40. After reading various forums my impression is that booting off a USB HDD works for PCs (at least some) but not on laptops. Latest discovery is that -s (single user) boot option doesn't work - just gives me a verbose listing. More interestingly, I tried the io=0xffffffff option together with -v. This produced lots of screens of rapidly scrolling text, with the occasional short pause. At the end, though, the text showed date and time, then "tiger-x86/System/Library/CoreServices...." (sorry, didn't have the time to write down everything) and ended with the words "Login Window Application Started". At that point nothing else happened, so it seemed like it was waiting for input. I hit something and got the spinning colour wheel in the top left corner, but alas, nothing after that. Running this without the -v option produced the same thing except that there was the grey apple logo screen in the background, but with the text overwriting it. So my current theory is that this io option is some sort of debugging thing which managed to get me to a login screen. I think the answer (if there is one) lies in getting a better understanding of the boot options. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/240-boot-from-usb-hard-drive/#findComment-3966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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