epicvengeance Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hello insanelymac! I've been a guest on this site for A WHILE now, and recently decided to create an account. I have decided to build my first hackintosh (I have a dell E5400 with X4500 gma that runs Leopard, but I can use iWork on it because of the whole QE/CI incompatibility, i think. Well lets not get into details for that, may be I will make another thread for that.) So, I'm here today to build a hackintosh under 200ish and I just want basic stuff on it. All I need is iLife 09 , iWork 09, and Office 2008. And thats about it. Nothing too fancy, but I need it to have Full QE/CI and such. This is going to be primarily a work computer, with basic web browsing. So far I have picked out some parts (from of course, Newegg): LOGISYS Computer Area 51 CS51WBK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 480W Power Supply $35 GIGABYTE GA-G31M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $48 Intel Celeron E3300 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E3300 $49 G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5S-1GBNT $26 LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM $20 HDD= A spare IDE I have laying around (80 gigs) Total- Less that 200 (180 ish) but with shipping its 200 And now, a few things I should note. 1. First time building a pc, but I have done countless repairs. 2. Plan on using this guide : http://osx86.net/f57/guide-retail-snow-leo...for-g31m-t3672/ 3. The guide states that you should use a core 2 duo or quad core, but could i use this celeron? 4. The guide also asks for a sata, but would IDE be suffice? 5. Would I have to get a graphics card with this or would the onboard work? 6. Will this be a close to hassle free install? 7. If you know of any other deals and such, please notify me. 8. Oh yea, and Im going to use a VGA monitor with this..havent decided which one, but im going to buy that later. If you have and recommendations (under $ 130) , do tell. 9. And finally, should I get 2 gigs of ram? I thought 1 would be enough, since I will only use some basic stuff. But does iLife require more? I was thinking of waiting and seeing how 1 gig does and adding another gig if necessary later. Please Comment and subscribe! (Wait...this isnt youtube! Oops!) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnz01 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 3. The guide states that you should use a core 2 duo or quad core, but could i use this celeron? Core2Duo would be nice for increased performance, the difference in cost is very minimal as well. 4. The guide also asks for a sata, but would IDE be suffice? I'd suggest you stick to SATA to avoid problems. 5. Would I have to get a graphics card with this or would the onboard work? Get a cheap NVidia one, like a 8500/9400GT, they're only like 20-30 bucks and it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll work. 6. Will this be a close to hassle free install? The more supported parts the less hassle really. 7. If you know of any other deals and such, please notify me. Like I said before, get a cheap Nvidia card and make sure you use SATA disks/DVD. 8. Oh yea, and Im going to use a VGA monitor with this..havent decided which one, but im going to buy that later. If you have and recommendations (under $ 130) , do tell. They're always good deals at newegg but I'm not really into monitors. 9. And finally, should I get 2 gigs of ram? I thought 1 would be enough, since I will only use some basic stuff. But does iLife require more? I was thinking of waiting and seeing how 1 gig does and adding another gig if necessary later. 2 GB for Snow Leopard is highly, highly, highly recommended. So in conclusion, if you could fork out another $50 or so, you'd be much happier in the long run (Both performance and installation wise). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks for the response. I guess I will get 2 gigs of ram, but the difference between celeron and core 2 duo is nearly 60 bucks (on a serious budget) . Did you mean just regular dual core? Also, Is my motherboard compatible? Heres the Graphics card I chose : SPARKLE SX84GS256D2LDPP GeForce 8400 GS 256MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card Would it be qe ci compatible? Also, here is The sata I chose: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Is that a good deal for $50? (HDD and shipping) Any different HDD suggestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnz01 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 The video card will do fine, as will the harddrive. If you want to run a vanilla kernel (A non-modified one, the one used by real Macs) use something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...6-074-_-Product It's basically a renamed Core2Duo and can run the vanilla kernel as well. It's pretty good value for money actually, it's also a lot faster than the Celeron because it uses new technologies. EDIT: For 5 bucks more you get a 500GB drive instead of 160GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...6-073-_-Product Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks for pointing out the HDD, didnt see that. And I'll also take your suggestion on the CPU. I have somewhat of a n00b question though, Is it okay for me to use a micro atx mobo in a atx case? And will the video card I chose be compatible with the power supply? I dont think my power supply has the pcie adapter thing, or cpu power. Can someone please check if the build will work? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks for all the info, but your link doesnt work. Sorry I totally messed this up. Anyway, here is the link: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...t&p=1466406 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks dude, I appreciate your time in helping me. Could you recommend a good case and power supply? Something cheap that is easy to use? EDIT: I got the kakewalk thing down, but it says core 2 duo, not pentium D. Does this mean my processor would not be supported. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks dude, I appreciate your time in helping me. Could you recommend a good case and power supply? Something cheap that is easy to use? Oh yea, and Can you link me to a more thorough tutorial for the kakewalk thing? If you can't get a second hand case and PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811147140 350W is enough. And I like the old-fashioned design. Kakewalk is very easy to use. Just download the installer and go through the guide included: http://puru.se/ I recommend the USB install. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Oomen Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm using a similar motherboard with the G31 chipset, a Core2Duo and a 35 euro NV 8400GS videocard. Works excellent in dual monitor setup. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think this case looks better with the side windows and is cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811148030 Also, did you ever get the sound working on 10.6.3? *It would be Wicked cool if you could by any chance write out how you updated your system to 10.6.3 and what kexts you used in a n00b tone * Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think this case looks better with the side windows and is cheaper.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811148030 Also, did you ever get the sound working on 10.6.3? *It would be Wicked cool if you could by any chance write out how you updated your system to 10.6.3 and what kexts you used in a n00b tone * OK. Kakewalk uses a retail copy of Snow Leopard, so after installation you can update to 10.6.3 using Apple Software Update. Kakewalk installs fakesmc, jmicronATA (IDE) and LegacyHDA (sound) in /Extra/Extensions. Additional Kexts: Sleep enabler for 10.6.3: http://www.kexts.com/view/318-sleepenabler...3_(10.3.0).html Copy it to /Extra/Extensions and run Kext Utility to build a new kextcache: http://www.kexts.com/view/129-kext_utility...d_(update).html Sound is a bit tricky, because Snow Leopard's AppleHDA.kext in /System/Library/Extensions doesn't like the ALC888b chip on G41M-ES2L: Download [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/02/mul...stallation.html Move the AppleHDA.kext that shipped with 10.6.3 to another location. Run [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url], find AppleHDA.kext 10.6.2 in Advanced Options/Kexts/Audio, install it. Close [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. Run Kext Utility. That's it. Sound should be working after reboot. To Dos: Change BIOS settings in "Integrated Peripherals/USB Keyboard Support" to "Enabled" so you can access the bootloader. Your done. Enjoy your fully working Snow Leopard Budgetosh... EDIT: I got the kakewalk thing down, but it says core 2 duo, not pentium D. Does this mean my processor would not be supported. C2D is required to boot the 64bit kernel, but you can stick with 32bit. When installing on a G41M-ES2L-based machine, Kakewalk puts a com.apple.Boot.plist in /Extra that has kernel flags set to "arch=i386" (=32bit). No problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Many thanks to all of you, especially skidman. I will definitely post back here once I get everything up and running, or if I don't! I will probably be ordering in the next 2 weeks or so. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1467912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyXUK Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I've built my first Hackintosh based on an ASUS P5QL Pro motherboard, everything works apart from standby and Wake On Lan so I'm looking at changing the motherboard to something a bit more compatible. So far I'm looking at the Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L, would this fit my requirements? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1468035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I've built my first Hackintosh based on an ASUS P5QL Pro motherboard, everything works apart from standby and Wake On Lan so I'm looking at changing the motherboard to something a bit more compatible. So far I'm looking at the Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L, would this fit my requirements? Sleep ("Standby") works using sleep enabler for 10.6.3 and checking "Start up automatically after power failure" in energy saver preferences. Wake on LAN doesn't work for me. The option is not even listed in energy saver and sending the magic packet doesn't have any effect. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1468073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hold on: Do I restore SL to a mbr or GUID (Partition?) Does it matter? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1468623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hold on: Do I restore SL to a mbr or GUID (Partition?) Does it matter? Using Kakewalk both, the USB install drive and the target disk have to be prepared with GUID partition scheme. There are installation methods that use MBR drives (for dual boot reasons). If you want a dual boot (triple boot) machine, I'd suggest using two HDDs, one for Mac OS and one for Windows, Linux etc.). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1468707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Alrighty. I just got my case so far. However I ran onto a problem. My case has 1 positive and 1 negative powerled cable. (so that's 2pins) my mobo on the other hand has 3 connectors for powerled. How should I connect them? I know this is off topic but I thought I might save some time by asking here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1469281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidman Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Alrighty. I just got my case so far. However I ran onto a problem. My case has 1 positive and 1 negative powerled cable. (so that's 2pins) my mobo on the other hand has 3 connectors for powerled. How should I connect them? I know this is off topic but I thought I might save some time by asking here. Take a look at the G41M-ES2L manual (pages 25 + 26). The power LED can be connected to the PWR_LED-Header (3pins) or the front panel header (pin 2 and 4). Plug your cable into the front panel header. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1469357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrAkD Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 looks like a good build! youll love snow leopard! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1469404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Skidman I can't thank you enough Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1469574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 Hooray! It's all working. 10.6.3 MAC PRO!!! Except my front panel audio :angry2: I triple checked the F_Audio cables, and while the usb on the front panel works, the sound doesn't. I haven't checked the mic port though. The ones on the mobo its self work flawlessly. Also, I need a wifi card for it, because my router is in the other room. Any cheap recommendations? And finally, is 32 degrees Celsius okay for the processor? Isn't that kinda hot? Thanks so much guys. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1473548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 anyone? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1479220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KohPhiPhi Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 32 celsius doesnt seem hot at all actually. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1480472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicvengeance Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 Thanks for answering part of the question Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/218300-first-time-hackintosh-build/#findComment-1480590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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