roaminggnome Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I was really hoping to build a i3 hackintosh but my needs are more immediate than the progress that I'm seeing regarding i3 support. These are my needs: Full OpenCL supported hardware Windows 7 Mac OS X 10.6 A video card that can play most newer games 'well' - doesn't have to be great RAID SATA 3 would be nice but not mission critical USB 3 would be nice but not mission critical I'd like the machine to sleep What sort of board/video card will allow me to do those things? Here are my next questions Should I do a hardware RAID on a mobo or Software RAID in OS X? Ideally I could access the RAID volumes from either OS? Can I buy an SSD and partition Windows/OSX on the same drive or should I buy multiple SSDs? Thanks all! I'm building this for a friend of mine in a week or two, personally I'll probably wait to see if 10.6.3 has i3 support. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swhay Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 for i5/i7 your best bet is a Gigabyte P55 board see the link below. http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/ I recommend 2 hard drives if you want to dual boot. Much easier than messing with different types of partitions on the same drive. I can't help you with graphics cards because I am not a gamer. You will have to poke around the forum and see what other users are using. I have read that the Nvidia 9500 GT series of card is very similar (if not almost the same) as the Nvidia GT 120 card used in the base Mac Pros. I think the Nvidia cards are easier to get working right than the ATI cards are. Not sure about your raid questions. You can access Windows drives in OS X, you will not be able to access OS X formatted drives in Windows (there may be some software that will allow this not sure) I would not bet on i3 support from Apple. Your better off picking stuff that is already supported (i5, i7 860 or i7 920, or Core 2 Duo). The closer you get to what apple uses the easier it will be now and in the future for updates... If this is your first Hackintosh build, I can't stress enough to educate yourself by reading the topics in this forum and do some research about hackintoshes and what it takes to get one up and running... Then you will be in a better position to figure out what hardware you need. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...5-215-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...8-405-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-323-_-Product You would be more than happy with this. Heck, its basically what I have just slower video. 9800gt will be perfect for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminggnome Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...5-215-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...8-405-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-323-_-Product You would be more than happy with this. Heck, its basically what I have just slower video. 9800gt will be perfect for you. Your sig states 'working on SL' - what's not working for you? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evildemon989 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I was really hoping to build a i3 hackintosh but my needs are more immediate than the progress that I'm seeing regarding i3 support. These are my needs: Full OpenCL supported hardware Windows 7 Mac OS X 10.6 A video card that can play most newer games 'well' - doesn't have to be great RAID SATA 3 would be nice but not mission critical USB 3 would be nice but not mission critical I'd like the machine to sleep What sort of board/video card will allow me to do those things? Here are my next questions Should I do a hardware RAID on a mobo or Software RAID in OS X? Ideally I could access the RAID volumes from either OS? Can I buy an SSD and partition Windows/OSX on the same drive or should I buy multiple SSDs? Thanks all! I'm building this for a friend of mine in a week or two, personally I'll probably wait to see if 10.6.3 has i3 support. I would recommend an i5-750, a GA-P55A-UD4P(Has SATA 3, USB3, and 3x USB power.), and a EVGA GeForce 9800 GT 512MB. The EVGA 9800 GT is much better then the XFX card. I have owned both of them, and I can say that the EVGA card stays much cooler, and is better for overclocking, if you would ever want to. Also, the card fully supports OpenCL. Not sure about the XFX card, but it most likely will. You can partition OSX and windows on the same drive, although it is more difficult(It's not that much more difficult), and you will be using a hybrid MBR. If you have two hard disks with one pure GPT, and one an MBR disk, it is much less of a worry. And yes a SSD would be fine. Not sure about RAID. Mostlikely if you are using windows too, go with the hardware RAID. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Sorry my sig is confusing... lol everything is fine. You will see VERY minimal to no differences with the EVGA card which isn't worth the extra $20, your paying for the brand name... xfx makes good products. I've owned both too and I've never had a problem with either, both are great. Why pay extra when you don't have to? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalUser Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Another thing to consider is the GTS 250/9800GTX+ which is right around the same price at the moment, and offers 10-20% better performance than a 9800GT depending on situation & RAM on the cards The prices seem to keep dropping, likely because its the most powerful card in Nvidia's current lineup still being manufactured until the GT400 (Fermi) based cards in 3-6 months, and Nvidia has to compete against ATI somehow I mean, here's a dual-DVI 1GB GTS 250 with beefy aftermarket-style heatpipe cooler for $115 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...7-478-_-Product I've got a similar cooler on my MSI 9800GT and its very effective or a similar EVGA card for $5 less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-538-_-Product From a compatibility standpoint they'll work with either graphicsenabler or EFI strings just like a 9800GT, as they're based around the same original GPU design. (You are slightly more likely to need a EFI string with a 9800GTX+/GTS250, but its still a crapshoot with either card) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I second the GTS 250. I own it and its very quick. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalUser Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Did yours require an EFI string or were you successful with just graphicsenabler? While I don't have the GTS 250, I do have its identical brother the 9800GTX+ which I got bout 14 months back for $200ish Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminggnome Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Wow, never had so many questions answered so quickly - I guess that's the difference between asking about supported hardware and non-supported. So I'm guessing you guys are using 10.6.2 and have no problems sleeping your machine? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingturtle Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Wow, never had so many questions answered so quickly - I guess that's the difference between asking about supported hardware and non-supported. So I'm guessing you guys are using 10.6.2 and have no problems sleeping your machine? People with i5 750 builds have reported they have sleep working. I just built i5 computer but haven't test sleep yet (I'm replacing my PSU so I can't test it right now). If you want to do it the DSDT way, here's a guide of making a custom DSDT to enable sleep on P55 motherboards: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2009/12/adv...eep-on-p55.html There might be easier methods if you did not want to make a custom DSDT. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1406920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evildemon989 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Sorry my sig is confusing... lol everything is fine. You will see VERY minimal to no differences with the EVGA card which isn't worth the extra $20, your paying for the brand name... xfx makes good products. I've owned both too and I've never had a problem with either, both are great. Why pay extra when you don't have to? Who said the EVGA card I described was $20 more? It's only ten dollars more. Also, you get a free $40 game with it(Cryostasis). Also, what are the chances that both of us have owned the same exact cards? Slim to none, and honestly, I don't believe you. I originally bought an XFX Geforce 9800 GT with a power connector, which was described in the picture. I wanted to overclock it, and honestly, I don't trust a card this powerful overclocked with just using just the board's power. The card I got in the mail had the same part number and did not come with a power connector. The EVGA card is better for overclocking in my opinion because it has a power connector and it also has a much larger heatsink and fan. Also, you cannot say that with EVGA you're just paying for the brand name. In my opinion, you're paying for a better cooler, the power connector, and even with this, EVGA threw in a $40 game. Also, XFX is just as bad as EVGA with the "brand name". Another thing to consider is the GTS 250/9800GTX+ which is right around the same price at the moment, and offers 10-20% better performance than a 9800GT depending on situation & RAM on the cards The prices seem to keep dropping, likely because its the most powerful card in Nvidia's current lineup still being manufactured until the GT400 (Fermi) based cards in 3-6 months, and Nvidia has to compete against ATI somehow I mean, here's a dual-DVI 1GB GTS 250 with beefy aftermarket-style heatpipe cooler for $115 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...7-478-_-Product I've got a similar cooler on my MSI 9800GT and its very effective or a similar EVGA card for $5 less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-538-_-Product From a compatibility standpoint they'll work with either graphicsenabler or EFI strings just like a 9800GT, as they're based around the same original GPU design. (You are slightly more likely to need a EFI string with a 9800GTX+/GTS250, but its still a crapshoot with either card) Honestly, the last time I checked the GTS 250 or the 9800 GTX+'s were still fairly high in the price range compared to the GeForce 9800 GT's. Now that I'm aware of this, I would definitely recommend going with a GTS 250. EVGA of course. ;D This GTS 250 - $10 for mail in rebate - $40 for free game = $100. It also has an even better cooler then the GeForce 9800 GT I have. Wow, never had so many questions answered so quickly - I guess that's the difference between asking about supported hardware and non-supported. So I'm guessing you guys are using 10.6.2 and have no problems sleeping your machine? I'm running 10.6.2 and I have no problems sleeping. I have a GA-P55M-UD2, not the board I recommended. But for the board I recommended, since it is very well supported by the tonymacx86 community, even if you do have sleep problems, throw them a thread, and they will get you squared away. Most likely it will just work though. I run a triple boot on my machine, and all three of the OS's sleep. I have to say that OSX sleep is the slowest to go to sleep, but it does work. The quickest is either windows 7 or ubuntu, seeing as I haven't really timed it out. Also, if you are going to do a dual or triple boot, windows 7 sleep may not work. You may have to screw with the power options switches(easy). Ubuntu may not work, but I updated to the newest version of gnome-power-manager and it solved the problem. People with i5 750 builds have reported they have sleep working. I just built i5 computer but haven't test sleep yet (I'm replacing my PSU so I can't test it right now). If you want to do it the DSDT way, here's a guide of making a custom DSDT to enable sleep on P55 motherboards: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2009/12/adv...eep-on-p55.html There might be easier methods if you did not want to make a custom DSDT. In tonymacx86's DSDT Database there is already a custom mapped DSDT for the UD4P. This has all of the fixes for sleep and for HDEF and CMOS reset. No DSDT code work required. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1407125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalUser Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I wanted to overclock it, and honestly, I don't trust a card this powerful overclocked with just using just the board's power. The card I got in the mail had the same part number and did not come with a power connector. ouch. Yeah, there is a 'new' line of 9800GTs that have been tweaked & underclocked to run reliably on only the meager power available via the PCI-E slot. The power/performance ratio is impressive, but unless you compare a 1GB against a 512MB card the performance lost is obvious. Most vendors market them as 'green' or 'eco' cards, but apparently XFX didnt? :/ Honestly, the last time I checked the GTS 250 or the 9800 GTX+'s were still fairly high in the price range compared to the GeForce 9800 GT's. Now that I'm aware of this, I would definitely recommend going with a GTS 250. EVGA of course. ;D This GTS 250 - $10 for mail in rebate - $40 for free game = $100. It also has an even better cooler then the GeForce 9800 GT I have. A free game can only = $ if you would have considered purchasing the game. My 9800GTX+ said Far Cry 2 was "A $40 value" but I disagree? besides, the EVGA I linked has 1GB of RAM and a non-reference cooler for just $10 more AR, or $15 more for the MSI card with one of the beefiest GPU heatpipe setups I've ever seen. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1407154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evildemon989 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 ouch. Yeah, there is a 'new' line of 9800GTs that have been tweaked & underclocked to run reliably on only the meager power available via the PCI-E slot. The power/performance ratio is impressive, but unless you compare a 1GB against a 512MB card the performance lost is obvious. Most vendors market them as 'green' or 'eco' cards, but apparently XFX didnt? :/ I don't believe XFX did market it as an eco version. A free game can only = $ if you would have considered purchasing the game. My 9800GTX+ said Far Cry 2 was "A $40 value" but I disagree? besides, the EVGA I linked has 1GB of RAM and a non-reference cooler for just $10 more AR, or $15 more for the MSI card with one of the beefiest GPU heatpipe setups I've ever seen. True about the free game, but hey, even if you weren't going to get the game, it's still I nice add on. I did not see the cards you posted when I first posted, but I do see that the EVGA one you posted is a sweet buy. The Twin Flozr has a gigantic heatpipe on it though, and would probably give you the best overclocking potential. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/210300-i-am-looking-for-the-most-supported-stable-106-hackintosh-components/#findComment-1407171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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