Snow Leopard kernel by qoopz/nawcom! [Intel/AMD]

[troe666]

major problem with this kernel not found in other oopz/voodoo 9.5 or 9.8 leopard kernels

 

CPU: AMD X2 4600,overclocked,but was showing frequency fine on 9.5/9.8 on leopard, want to know if other AMD X2 users with same kernel have same issue.

 

Problem is on the 4th line down: "TSC Frequency = 0.0000Mhz" - ?? sad.gif bus and FSB are being read correctly.

 

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel PAE enabled

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel rtclock_init: Taking bus ratio path 1 (AMD Athlon)

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel TSC: Verification of clock speed PASSED.

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel TSC: Frequency = 0.0000MHz, FSB frequency = 241.7490MHz, bus ratio = 11

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel Darwin Kernel Version 10.2.0: Tue Nov 17 01:24:40 EST 2009; annappirtrvh v2:xnu-1486.2.11/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386

 

followed a little later by this one:

 

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel Unsynchronized TSC for cpu 1: 0x0000001182b50596, delta 0x45c29

 

 

how can I fix this?

notsc kernel flag has no noticable effect and im getting random app crashes and network errors from mach_time values in the system.log, all due down to the tick timing problems from unsync'd / un detected TSC

 

please help ive tried all available kernels.

motherboard is A8N SLI like so very many people on here, nForce 4 chipset, using Marvell LAN. heaps common setup. CPU is X2 Athlon and is overclocked but I also tried at a normal value 200 x 11 and still detected as 0mhz.

 

:( pleaseeee help!!!!!

[TE0I0TEJIb]

major problem with this kernel not found in other oopz/voodoo 9.5 or 9.8 leopard kernels

 

CPU: AMD X2 4600,overclocked,but was showing frequency fine on 9.5/9.8 on leopard, want to know if other AMD X2 users with same kernel have same issue.

 

Problem is on the 4th line down: "TSC Frequency = 0.0000Mhz" - ?? sad.gif bus and FSB are being read correctly.

 

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel PAE enabled

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel rtclock_init: Taking bus ratio path 1 (AMD Athlon)

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel TSC: Verification of clock speed PASSED.

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel TSC: Frequency = 0.0000MHz, FSB frequency = 241.7490MHz, bus ratio = 11

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel Darwin Kernel Version 10.2.0: Tue Nov 17 01:24:40 EST 2009; annappirtrvh v2:xnu-1486.2.11/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386

 

followed a little later by this one:

 

5/01/10 11:15:07 PM kernel Unsynchronized TSC for cpu 1: 0x0000001182b50596, delta 0x45c29

 

 

how can I fix this?

notsc kernel flag has no noticable effect and im getting random app crashes and network errors from mach_time values in the system.log, all due down to the tick timing problems from unsync'd / un detected TSC

 

please help ive tried all available kernels.

motherboard is A8N SLI like so very many people on here, nForce 4 chipset, using Marvell LAN. heaps common setup. CPU is X2 Athlon and is overclocked but I also tried at a normal value 200 x 11 and still detected as 0mhz.

 

pleaseeee help!!!!!

hey, i have a laptop with amd turion x2 64 bit

with this kernel it is overheating too! only cpus=1 works, but i think we have to find a better solution

[lorenzoaoaoao]

anyone have the original mach_kernel 10.2.0? beacuse this kernel erase the original kernel!!

[sendblink23]

Hi I have a successful Snow Leopard install on my AMD, but I have an issue

 

Many applications don't open / crash

 

And well I read in this thread post, 64bit is the issue, well I have a bigger issue THE ONLY WAY I CAN BOOT is: -force64

Even though I have this: About This Mac > Software > 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No

 

So any help on this issue? Or me booting in 32bits I tried: -x32 arch=i386 it would not boot(my computer restarts)

 

Help would be much appreciated

 

My system:

MSI 770-C45 AM3

AMD Phenom ii x4 965be C3

8gb (4 x 2gb) DDR3-1333 (lowered @ 800Mhz)

ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 PCI-e (I need help getting *ON* Q'E, I have graphic card "ATI Radeon 4600 Series" recognized in About This Mac)

1TB 7200rpm Hitachi Deskstar SATA(Windows 7 Ultimate x64)

400GB 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda SATA(Snow Leopard 10.6.2)

120GB 5400rpm Seagate Momentus SATA(Windows XP Pro x64)

[Black Knight]

Hi I have a successful Snow Leopard install on my AMD, but I have an issue

 

Many applications don't open / crash

 

And well I read in this thread post, 64bit is the issue, well I have a bigger issue THE ONLY WAY I CAN BOOT is: -force64

Even though I have this: About This Mac > Software > 64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No

 

So any help on this issue? Or me booting in 32bits I tried: -x32 arch=i386 it would not boot(my computer restarts)

 

Help would be much appreciated

 

My system:

MSI 770-C45 AM3

AMD Phenom ii x4 965be C3

8gb (4 x 2gb) DDR3-1333 (lowered @ 800Mhz)

ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR2 PCI-e (I need help getting *ON* Q'E, I have graphic card "ATI Radeon 4600 Series" recognized in About This Mac)

1TB 7200rpm Hitachi Deskstar SATA(Windows 7 Ultimate x64)

400GB 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda SATA(Snow Leopard 10.6.2)

120GB 5400rpm Seagate Momentus SATA(Windows XP Pro x64)

 

 

First, 8 Gigabytes of RAM isn't working properly for AMD, so use maxmem=4096 in your com.apple.boot.plist. next, force64 isn't quite working right yet either, but it might just be that you haven't patched the CPUIDs yet. I personally can't get it to boot using -force64 at all, but I have heard that if you get application crashes, it's because you haven't patched CPUIDs. Otherwise just boot without -force64 and you'll be in 32-bit mode (it's the default so you don't need a flag). As of this point, no AMD system will use 64 bit extensions or kernel. The -force64 only allows 64 bit programs to run, but it's still basically 32-bit.

 

In summary, use Marvin's AMD patcher to get your apps working.

 

P.S.

 

Why are you downclocking your RAM to 800 MHz?

[sendblink23]

First, 8 Gigabytes of RAM isn't working properly for AMD, so use maxmem=4096 in your com.apple.boot.plist. next, force64 isn't quite working right yet either, but it might just be that you haven't patched the CPUIDs yet. I personally can't get it to boot using -force64 at all, but I have heard that if you get application crashes, it's because you haven't patched CPUIDs. Otherwise just boot without -force64 and you'll be in 32-bit mode (it's the default so you don't need a flag). As of this point, no AMD system will use 64 bit extensions or kernel. The -force64 only allows 64 bit programs to run, but it's still basically 32-bit.

 

In summary, use Marvin's AMD patcher to get your apps working.

 

P.S.

 

Why are you downclocking your RAM to 800 MHz?

 

 

I can't patch anything, since all those apps do not work they all crash (I can't even open Marvin's AMD patcher)

 

Lowered to 800 for more stability(tried messing too many weeks on memory timings, voltages etc.. 800 was the most stable, I used to have my cpu overclocked to 4.21Ghz & 4.54ghz, but lowered to stock now), also yes I can run 32bits OSX with 8gb ram well I had it on 10.5.7 & 10.5.8 I never had to use any maxmem boot flags, it just worked fine *the system just ignores the utilization of the extra ram. Maybe it was the 9.5 voodoo kernel used in the past... I have no clue (I've never before installed anything 64bits of Leo on mines, just Snow only forced that way).

 

Either way I tested maxmem=4096 & also tested removing 4gb sticks of ram from my computer just to insure... they both never let me boot computer just Shuts Off, only way i can boot is with -force64 (which is an un-usable state for me)

 

So any other ideas? I mean is there another way to manually patch "CPUIDs" like terminal commands etc ? to see if it works... if not I would just try to Install snow again differently, if you know a good easy guide around.. could you provide it if you could

 

Thanks

[Black Knight]

Okay, couple of things:

 

First of all, I noticed that you're using a Phenom II 965 which runs at 3.4 GHz normally, right? If so, are you using my modified version of this kernel with corrected detection of the FSB? I posted it on infinitemac.com in the snow leopard section. If not, I am surprised that your CPU boots with a multiplier higher than 15 without using the flag FSB=200000000. You probably didn't have a problem with Leopard and 8 GB of ram because you were only using 32 bit mode, if you try to use 64 bit, it tries to use all 8 gigs of ram and could be causing some of your problems.

 

If you're able to boot into single user mode (-s at startup), then I can send you a CPUID.txt file and the decrypted files used with replace.sh and you can patch the files there. That should fix your apps not working. I'll get on my mac a bit later and send you the files you need.

 

Later.

[sendblink23]

Okay, couple of things:

 

First of all, I noticed that you're using a Phenom II 965 which runs at 3.4 GHz normally, right? If so, are you using my modified version of this kernel with corrected detection of the FSB? I posted it on infinitemac.com in the snow leopard section. If not, I am surprised that your CPU boots with a multiplier higher than 15 without using the flag FSB=200000000. You probably didn't have a problem with Leopard and 8 GB of ram because you were only using 32 bit mode, if you try to use 64 bit, it tries to use all 8 gigs of ram and could be causing some of your problems.

 

If you're able to boot into single user mode (-s at startup), then I can send you a CPUID.txt file and the decrypted files used with replace.sh and you can patch the files there. That should fix your apps not working. I'll get on my mac a bit later and send you the files you need.

 

Later.

 

Yeah actually, since I use busratio=20 that makes it work for my Phenom (In Snow - About This Mac does say correctly 3.41Ghz & 4 cores in the more info), same thing said when on Leo)

 

Sure I have no problem booting with: -s

 

Do you have AIM, add me: cowhumping182

I have a separate laptop with 10.5.7 (on ichat) in which you could help me out in the same time while testing with my Desktop with Snow

[Black Knight]

Are you saying that you're running the processor at 2.0 GHz, because that's what busratio=20 does. Even if you manually specify your CPU speed in About My Mac/System Profiler or use SMBIOS.plist for Chameleon, it doesn't mean that it's accurate. You can use my version of the kernel (qoopz/nawcom with corrected Phenom FSB detection) and you won't need to specify busratio or fsb. You can get it from here: http://www.infinitemac.com/f36/anv-qoopz-v...d-phenom-t5112/.

 

Also, I added you as a contact on AIM, but you're not online. I'm 'livinunder18' if you want to contact me.

[ptesone]

Are you saying that you're running the processor at 2.0 GHz, because that's what busratio=20 does. Even if you manually specify your CPU speed in About My Mac/System Profiler or use SMBIOS.plist for Chameleon, it doesn't mean that it's accurate. You can use my version of the kernel (qoopz/nawcom with corrected Phenom FSB detection) and you won't need to specify busratio or fsb. You can get it from here: http://www.infinitemac.com/f36/anv-qoopz-v...d-phenom-t5112/.

 

Also, I added you as a contact on AIM, but you're not online. I'm 'livinunder18' if you want to contact me.

 

2 questions:

1.) is it for both Phenom I and II's ?

2.) can it be used in Leopard 10.5.8 (not Snow L.), if not is there a version for 10.5.8?

 

I guess that would make 3 questions. . .

[Black Knight]

Since it is a Snow Leopard Kernel, it won't work in Leopard. It is for any Phenom as they all take the same detection path in the kernel. I tried making a version for Leopard, but I had a terrible time trying to compile it. The tools aren't as readily available to do it and I'm not really a kernel coder. I included the .diff file in the kernel package so if someone does want to add it to Leopard, it should be able to be added easily.

 

Also, this should get your apps working again. Unzip the zip to your root so you have a /patches directory. Restart in -s mode and mount the filesystem "/sbin/mount -uw /" as instructed. Then "cd" to /patches. Then run "./patcher CPUID.txt". Once that's finished, run "./replace.sh". If that doesn't work, my suggestion is to try reinstalling Snow fresh and patch again. Also, if you can, update your system to 10.6.2 first as those files in the zip are 10.6.2 versions. Good luck.

[ptesone]

I kinda broke my Snow Leopard anyways, I tried upgrading to 10.6.2 and when it made my FCP go bad I reverted back to 10.6. . .

[Black Knight]

When you update to 10.6.2, you need to rerun Marvin's AMD patcher to unbreak FCP and other apps too.

[ptesone]

When you update to 10.6.2, you need to rerun Marvin's AMD patcher to unbreak FCP and other apps too.

 

is that all it was? geez. . .I feel sheepish

 

updating & Marvinin' now. . .

 

thanx, btw!

[Black Knight]

I hope that's all it is. Good luck.

[ptesone]

I hope that's all it is. Good luck.

 

and here we go:

 

Do you find it easier to scan with the 1st button : Make Lists of Binaries

then Patch with the 4th button: Patch all binaries?

or is there a faster way? just curious. . .

[Black Knight]

My best luck was with creating a patcher package and copying it to /. Then I run the patcher and replace.sh in single user mode. I can't tell you how many times I've had it reach a file it couldn't read correctly or something and have to start over.

 

Also, I find it funny that you're running a Phenom X4 9500 with DDR3 1600 RAM.

[sendblink23]

My best luck was with creating a patcher package and copying it to /. Then I run the patcher and replace.sh in single user mode. I can't tell you how many times I've had it reach a file it couldn't read correctly or something and have to start over.

 

Also, I find it funny that you're running a Phenom X4 9500 with DDR3 1600 RAM.

 

Phenom II x4 965be C3 =P Yeah it works with DDR3 1600, but that is because my Motherboard can handle it overclocked, obviously I'm not using it anymore in that overclock on my ram. After a few weeks running it at 1600 suddenly my system started getting unstable crashing & freezing, tried fixing with different timings, T1/T2 & higher/lower voltage but well more crashing.. So, I simply decided to go down to the lowest.. it was turning unstable even on 1333 & 1066 as well... :/ But what ever at least I really don't notice any difference from 1600 OC & 800 I run CS4 programs & Video rendering softwares they all acted the same(even running 12 applications in the same time, it runs them all same really fast)

 

Anyways, I decided to follow another guide of installing Snow(had to test it *hit or miss* about 4 times to get it right), and finally manged to boot in 32bits, yes I had to use the maxmem=4096 (I don't understand why I couldn't before). So, for now yes I can run all the applications non are crashing on 10.6.2 update(i didn't even used the Marvin's AMD patcher app)... But now I did boot into 64bits (-force64) the apps do still crash the same as before.

 

So now that I can run the Marvin's app inside 32bits can you help me from there what I need to do to resolve almost every application that crashes 64bits(I literally mean almost every application crashes/doesn't open)?

 

Thanks, by the way I love your G5 Case mod & Water cooling, I sooo want do that

[Black Knight]

First, I'm confused. Do you have two accounts here? I'm responding to sendblink23 and ptesone and I think my responses are getting mixed up.

 

The last response I made noted a picture that showed ptesone running a Phenom 9500 at 2.2 GHz and DDR3 1600, but then you say you have a Phenom II x4 965.

 

Anyways, about Marvin's, I mentioned in a previous post to make the patcher package and apply the patches in single user mode. This should resolve your apps not running in 64 bit mode. 32 bit doesn't seem to be as restrictive.

 

Also, I'm on AIM right now so we can chat if you want.

[ptesone]

First, I'm confused. Do you have two accounts here? I'm responding to sendblink23 and ptesone and I think my responses are getting mixed up.

 

The last response I made noted a picture that showed ptesone running a Phenom 9500 at 2.2 GHz and DDR3 1600, but then you say you have a Phenom II x4 965.

 

Anyways, about Marvin's, I mentioned in a previous post to make the patcher package and apply the patches in single user mode. This should resolve your apps not running in 64 bit mode. 32 bit doesn't seem to be as restrictive.

 

Also, I'm on AIM right now so we can chat if you want.

 

No, I'm ptesone and he's sendblink23.

 

OK, I'm up and running thanx to Mr. Black Knight's help and using his kernel with 10.6.2 update and patched with Marvins Utility on my: /Applications , /Library/Frameworks , /System/Library/CoreServices , and /System/Library/Frameworks and FCP now works with updated 10.6.2. HOWEVER, my MPEG Streamclip is NOT working which I use to convert my H264 clips to an edit-able form, but that may just be a codec issue (although I'm not having any trouble with it in Leopard 10.5.8).

 

BTW, what is the advantage of using this kernel again? Speed??

 

Thanx. . .

[Black Knight]

The advantage to using my kernel is that the original voodoo kernel and all other versions based on it had a multiplier cap of 30. This wouldn't be a problem if the front side bus was detected right for Phenoms, but it isn't. Most Intel CPUs use a base FSB of 100 MHz and use the multiplier to set the CPU frequency. With AMD processors, they expect a 200 MHz FSB frequency. This means if you set the multiplier to 15 (15x200MHz=3.0 GHz which is quite reasonable), it was already at the cap of 30 (100x30=3.0GHz). As most Phenoms now and a lot that are overclocked go well above this limit, I modified the kernel to double the detected FSB so that it reads the multiplier correctly. This means that you can now overclock or run faster Phenoms without the kernel crapping out during boot. Sendblink23 successfully tested it to 4.21 GHz on his Phenom II x4 965, so I know it's doing what it's supposed to. Theoretically, if your CPU could run at 6.0 GHz, the kernel would allow it.

[mkbr]

Dear sir

 

please help me to install Mac os into mysystem

[ptesone]

The advantage to using my kernel is that the original voodoo kernel and all other versions based on it had a multiplier cap of 30. This wouldn't be a problem if the front side bus was detected right for Phenoms, but it isn't. Most Intel CPUs use a base FSB of 100 MHz and use the multiplier to set the CPU frequency. With AMD processors, they expect a 200 MHz FSB frequency. This means if you set the multiplier to 15 (15x200MHz=3.0 GHz which is quite reasonable), it was already at the cap of 30 (100x30=3.0GHz). As most Phenoms now and a lot that are overclocked go well above this limit, I modified the kernel to double the detected FSB so that it reads the multiplier correctly. This means that you can now overclock or run faster Phenoms without the kernel crapping out during boot. Sendblink23 successfully tested it to 4.21 GHz on his Phenom II x4 965, so I know it's doing what it's supposed to. Theoretically, if your CPU could run at 6.0 GHz, the kernel would allow it.

 

Cool. I wish you could make one for Leopard 10.5.8 although it doesn't really affect me. I don't OC my Phenom 1 chip and it only runs at 2.2GHz anyways.

When I boot:

-Leo it says: TSC: Frequency = 2200.xxxxxMHz, FSB Freq: = 100.xxxxMHz, bus ratio = 22

-S.L. it says: TSC: Frequency = 2200.xxxxxMHz, FSB Freq: = 200.xxxxMHz, bus ratio = 11

[Guest run.away]

In my opinion you are mistaken. I suggest it to discuss.

[RayFlower]

Tried this Phenom kernel of yours on my 945 Phenom II X4 and i was able to use -force64 and at least run galaxies to benchmark my 9500, however after I patched my cpuids with marvins tool it wont start the window manager when i use -force64, anyone else had this issue and perhaps have a solution for it up their selves?