GnatGoSplat Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I used the ComboUpdate to update my VMWare 10.5.6 to 10.5.7. When it rebooted, after the kextload it goes to a blank black screen of the proper resolution and never does anything. Fortunately, I backed up the 9.6.0 kernel and if I run that kernel, everything boots fine. I don't know if there's any problems with running an older kernel on a newer OS X, but I'd rather run the proper kernel if possible. I have everything vanilla running on an Intel machine. Anyone manage to get past this problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I used the ComboUpdate to update my VMWare 10.5.6 to 10.5.7. When it rebooted, after the kextload it goes to a blank black screen of the proper resolution and never does anything. Fortunately, I backed up the 9.6.0 kernel and if I run that kernel, everything boots fine. I don't know if there's any problems with running an older kernel on a newer OS X, but I'd rather run the proper kernel if possible. I have everything vanilla running on an Intel machine. Anyone manage to get past this problem? First boot after install -v -f -x Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1157334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0rk007hck Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Try it But 10.5.7 applications won't run with an older kernel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1157368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 First boot after install -v -f -x Didn't work. Is this dependent on it being the very first boot (i.e. I need to reinstall the ComboUpdate)? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1157705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Didn't work. Is this dependent on it being the very first boot (i.e. I need to reinstall the ComboUpdate)? No should be OK at any time. Fixed it for me. What method have you used to run on VMware? Distro or Vanilla? CPU? Verison of VMware? Host OS? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1157720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
naeemanaeem Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 No should be OK at any time. Fixed it for me. What method have you used to run on VMware? Distro or Vanilla? CPU? Verison of VMware? Host OS? Can somebody help me figure out to fix the hang I m getting? Thanks a lot Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 No should be OK at any time. Fixed it for me. What method have you used to run on VMware? Distro or Vanilla? CPU? Verison of VMware? Host OS? I started with the pcwiz image, but I changed GuestOS to "darwin-64", disk to SCSI LSILogic and several other things in the VMX. I also updated to the latest PCEFI, changed to a GUID partition, added a bunch of kexts, etc. I then upgraded to vanilla 10.5.6 using the ComboUpdate and all was well. CPU is C2D E6400. VMware is Player 2.5.2 build-156735. Host OS is WinXP SP3. I do NOT have a DSDT.aml, don't know if it's needed, but I saw reference to it in another 10.5.7 thread. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I started with the pcwiz image, but I changed GuestOS to "darwin-64", disk to SCSI LSILogic and several other things in the VMX. I also updated to the latest PCEFI, changed to a GUID partition, added a bunch of kexts, etc. I then upgraded to vanilla 10.5.6 using the ComboUpdate and all was well.CPU is C2D E6400. VMware is Player 2.5.2 build-156735. Host OS is WinXP SP3. I do NOT have a DSDT.aml, don't know if it's needed, but I saw reference to it in another 10.5.7 thread. Anyway Os X under VmWare will never run as good as in a real installation. You won't know how Os X really runs unless you make a native install. Unless you really need VmWare for making some cross platform development or something like that, there is no point in running the MacOs in a virtual machine (except a liking for troubles and bad perfomance ) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Anyway Os X under VmWare will never run as good as in a real installation. You won't know how Os X really runs unless you make a native install. Unless you really need VmWare for making some cross platform development or something like that, there is no point in running the MacOs in a virtual machine (except a liking for troubles and bad perfomance ) And that helped in what way? I started with the pcwiz image, but I changed GuestOS to "darwin-64", disk to SCSI LSILogic and several other things in the VMX. I also updated to the latest PCEFI, changed to a GUID partition, added a bunch of kexts, etc. I then upgraded to vanilla 10.5.6 using the ComboUpdate and all was well.CPU is C2D E6400. VMware is Player 2.5.2 build-156735. Host OS is WinXP SP3. I do NOT have a DSDT.aml, don't know if it's needed, but I saw reference to it in another 10.5.7 thread. Well that is well away from what I have been using, which is basically a retail installation with little hacking. Could be all sorts of different dependencies. Do you need anything in this guest or would you consider building one from scratch using a retail DVD? What kexts have you used and how are they loaded? Munky EFI or /Extra? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 And that helped in what way? It would help making him to notice running a native installation would probably solve most of his problems in addition to improve the system performance. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Anyway Os X under VmWare will never run as good as in a real installation. You won't know how Os X really runs unless you make a native install. Unless you really need VmWare for making some cross platform development or something like that, there is no point in running the MacOs in a virtual machine (except a liking for troubles and bad perfomance ) Actually, I do have OS X running native on my home machine. Yes, I am aware a VM is never as good as a native install. This is true for any OS. Common sense I thought? I don't agree with the bad performance, the performance is actually quite good for a VM. It's no worse than my Windows VMs, performance-wise. I haven't had any troubles up until now. And that helped in what way?Well that is well away from what I have been using, which is basically a retail installation with little hacking. Could be all sorts of different dependencies. Do you need anything in this guest or would you consider building one from scratch using a retail DVD? What kexts have you used and how are they loaded? Munky EFI or /Extra? I could build one from scratch, but I don't have a retail DVD. I could download one, but it would take awhile being 7GB and my connection isn't that fast. The only non-vanilla kexts I'm using (that I'm aware of) are: MaxxussAC97AudioES137x.kext - for sound VMwareIOFramebuffer.kext - Installed by VMWare Tools dsmos.kext - for decryption Using PCEFI and nothing in /Extra. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I could build one from scratch, but I don't have a retail DVD. I could download one, but it would take awhile being 7GB and my connection isn't that fast.The only non-vanilla kexts I'm using (that I'm aware of) are: MaxxussAC97AudioES137x.kext - for sound VMwareIOFramebuffer.kext - Installed by VMWare Tools dsmos.kext - for decryption Using PCEFI and nothing in /Extra. Those extensions should be fine, so must be something else. Wonder if there are other non-standard extensions in PCWiz image. How about checking kextstat output for anything else that looks non-standard. I could try downloading a copy of PCwiz, but will take some time. If you need help on retail check out my other thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=139178. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1158987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Those extensions should be fine, so must be something else. Wonder if there are other non-standard extensions in PCWiz image. How about checking kextstat output for anything else that looks non-standard. I could try downloading a copy of PCwiz, but will take some time. If you need help on retail check out my other thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=139178. It's a possibility. Just to make sure there are no modified/patched kexts, I extracted the Extensions folder from the ComboUpdate using Pacifist and installed all the extensions in it on top of my existing extensions using OSX86Tools. That didn't seem to help, and was probably a dumb thing to do because now I probably have a lot of kexts that aren't being used taking up space in my Extensions folder. I did find Natit.kext that I didn't see earlier. No reason for it, so I removed it. Now I can boot kernel 9.7.0 with the -f flag! However, I get the same problem as before if I omit -f. Strange why I need -f every time, but I seem to be making some progress. It seems something extra in the kexts folder is probably the cause. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1159002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Actually, I do have OS X running native on my home machine. Yes, I am aware a VM is never as good as a native install. This is true for any OS. Common sense I thought?I don't agree with the bad performance, the performance is actually quite good for a VM. It's no worse than my Windows VMs, performance-wise. I haven't had any troubles up until now. With VMWare you lose QE&CI...that hurts graphics perfomance a lot. And also some programs won't run at all without that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1159080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxed Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Actually, I do have OS X running native on my home machine. Yes, I am aware a VM is never as good as a native install. This is true for any OS. Common sense I thought?I don't agree with the bad performance, the performance is actually quite good for a VM. It's no worse than my Windows VMs, performance-wise. I haven't had any troubles up until now. I could build one from scratch, but I don't have a retail DVD. I could download one, but it would take awhile being 7GB and my connection isn't that fast. The only non-vanilla kexts I'm using (that I'm aware of) are: MaxxussAC97AudioES137x.kext - for sound VMwareIOFramebuffer.kext - Installed by VMWare Tools dsmos.kext - for decryption Using PCEFI and nothing in /Extra. Any luck getting it to work? i have 2 vmware images 10.5.5 from Xelabo i believe? and a 10.5.6 from... not sure... its a modification of xelabo's 10.5.6 both fail to update id love to get it working and dont mind torrenting the working image., i have a t2 internet connection Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1190103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Any luck getting it to work? No, I never had any luck. I was able to get it intermittently working with kernel 9.7.0, but not reliably. I just stuck with kernel 9.6.0. Everything else is 10.5.7 except the kernel. It seems to work fine that way. My native Hackintosh has no probs with 10.5.7 and its 9.7.0 kernel so I guess there's just something weird about my VM. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1190113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewolfs Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Mine is broken too. I really don't have any desire to do a native install, is there anyway to get this back up and running or do I have to re-install 10.5.6? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1191821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny901 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have a Xelabo 10.5.7. If you can seed, please PM me. -J Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/166562-1057-update-vmware-fail/#findComment-1200599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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