winlinmac12 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hello all. I just successfully installed Kalyway- Leo onto my Maxtor External 190Gb hard drive. I tried to boot the system from USB...but it just leads me to the internal HDD boot which has my Vista Home Premium and on the backup disk, Ubuntu. Please help? I formatted the ext. hard drive to Mac OS Extended (Journaled)...I hope that was the right thing to do. It gave me the green okay at the end of installation and said it needed to restart. I have no idea how to get Leo to run / boot. I wish I could have installed it onto the secondary hard drive where I have Ubuntu...but it didn't give me that as an option...even though it has just under double what Leo would need from the install. :-/ Any and all help is welcome! Merci, Winlinmac12 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohemiadrinker Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Try searching for "dual boot" options for Vista. I use the "chain0" solution, but that`s for XP and I don`t know if it works for vista also. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1143771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlinmac12 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Try searching for "dual boot" options for Vista. I use the "chain0" solution, but that`s for XP and I don`t know if it works for vista also. Nope...nothing. I believe there may be some sort of program that can be used to set that up. The thing is...I've come to the conclusion that because the ext. HDD is now in the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format, it is no longer recognized by the computer except by the maxtor program which wants me to convert it to a usuable format. If I used a macdrive-like program to format my secondary built-in HDD to a Mac OS format, it may still not recognize it. :-/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1143942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Nope...nothing. I believe there may be some sort of program that can be used to set that up. The thing is...I've come to the conclusion that because the ext. HDD is now in the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format, it is no longer recognized by the computer except by the maxtor program which wants me to convert it to a usuable format. If I used a macdrive-like program to format my secondary built-in HDD to a Mac OS format, it may still not recognize it. :-/ Post your current USB parameter settings in BIOS......and the setting options..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1143965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlinmac12 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Post your current USB parameter settings in BIOS......and the setting options..... I might if I knew what those were and where to find them. All I know is that I have been able to load Linux OSes and live cd/dvds from the boot menu. The difference is that the USBs have all been in a recognizable PC format. The HDD has been formatted first into Mac OS Extended, then into the extended (journaled) since I remembered reading something about doing that on apple2pc's website. I know what the problem is but not how to solve it. Since this is an HP and not a Macbook, the primary format for mass storage devices is NTFS...not Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and so it fails to recognize it. In any bootloader, Vista or Darwin. What I suppose I am looking for is a program that can change and/or create a boot menu that recognizes and can access the Mac Formatted drive. -Winlinmac12 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I might if I knew what those were and where to find them. All I know is that I have been able to load Linux OSes and live cd/dvds from the boot menu. The difference is that the USBs have all been in a recognizable PC format. The HDD has been formatted first into Mac OS Extended, then into the extended (journaled) since I remembered reading something about doing that on apple2pc's website. I know what the problem is but not how to solve it. Since this is an HP and not a Macbook, the primary format for mass storage devices is NTFS...not Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and so it fails to recognize it. In any bootloader, Vista or Darwin. What I suppose I am looking for is a program that can change and/or create a boot menu that recognizes and can access the Mac Formatted drive. -Winlinmac12 OS X can on its own read-only access NTFS volumes (and with MacFUSE/NTFS-3G can read/write, or with try/buy Paragon NTFS) but it can read/write to FAT32 formatted volumes.....which are read/write accessible by Windows OS and Linux obviously.....but with try/buy TransMac in Windows you can read/write HFS+ volumes..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlinmac12 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 OS X can on its own read-only access NTFS volumes (and with MacFUSE/NTFS-3G can read/write, or with try/buy Paragon NTFS) but it can read/write to FAT32 formatted volumes.....which are read/write accessible by Windows OS and Linux obviously.....but with try/buy TransMac in Windows you can read/write HFS+ volumes..... I think you are misunderstanding what I mean. I have an HP Pavillion notebook...with Vista. I know mac can read-only NTFS...but that doesn't help me. MacDrive allowes users on MS Windows Vista to browse, read, and write onto Mac OS formatted devices other than NTFS because Windows can't read or write to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). More importantly, MacDrive lets a user format any HDD or storage device into a Mac OS format. Windows can't do this on it's own. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think you are misunderstanding what I mean. I have an HP Pavillion notebook...with Vista. I know mac can read-only NTFS...but that doesn't help me. MacDrive allowes users on MS Windows Vista to browse, read, and write onto Mac OS formatted devices other than NTFS because Windows can't read or write to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). More importantly, MacDrive lets a user format any HDD or storage device into a Mac OS format. Windows can't do this on it's own. I guess you have a HP Pavilion BIOS USB boot device recognition issue.......I am able to boot USB devices (both USB memory sticks and USB HDDs) via the F8 BIOS Boot Menu, whether they are FAT32, NTFS, or Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.....and whether MBR or GPT (GUID) partitioned.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlinmac12 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 I guess you have a HP Pavilion BIOS USB boot device recognition issue.......I am able to boot USB devices (both USB memory sticks and USB HDDs) via the F8 BIOS Boot Menu, whether they are FAT32, NTFS, or Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.....and whether MBR or GPT (GUID) partitioned.... Well how can I fix this? I can boot portable OSes (linux distos) via USB sticks easily using F8...and I booted the the Kalyway DVD the same way...albeit an older distro (10.5.2). Should I format my portable HDD back to NTFS. It has leopard on it...or at least that was what the green success bubble at the end of installation led me to believe. I really want to ge this going...it's more for my friend to play with rather than me since I am more of a linux-windows hybrid fan than a mac fanatic but I like to be rounded and open-minded. :-p Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Well how can I fix this? I can boot portable OSes (linux distos) via USB sticks easily using F8...and I booted the the Kalyway DVD the same way...albeit an older distro (10.5.2). Should I format my portable HDD back to NTFS. It has leopard on it...or at least that was what the green success bubble at the end of installation led me to believe. I really want to ge this going...it's more for my friend to play with rather than me since I am more of a linux-windows hybrid fan than a mac fanatic but I like to be rounded and open-minded. :-p 1. Check in your BIOS Setup if you can enable a Legacy USB Support or USB Legacy Storage Detect or similar mode.... 2. When you partitioned/formatted your portable HDD as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format, did you select Master Boot Record or GUID Partition Table (GPT) via Options button under the Partition tab in OS X Disk Utility.....? If you chose GPT I suggest you try with MBR instead....... BTW I presume you ensured that the internal HDD partition you wanted to install OS X to was set up under Vista as a primary partition as a simple NTFS volume, rather than as an extended partition logical volume, as OS X has to be installed on a primary partition......and checked if you can enable SATA mode or set SATA to AHCI in BIOS (that is if you have a SATA internal HDD.....?)..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/164074-kalyway-installednow-what-please-help/#findComment-1144719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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