Stuck on white screen with black bar on first boot after installation

[sstoveld]

hey guys, ive got a problem here. first off, i downloaded the iPC 10.5.6 Leopard DVD. burned that to dvd, and booted it up in my Fujitsu Lifebook A6110. i formatted my drive to Mac OS Extended or GUID i think it was. i think i chose the correct drivers from the customize part.

 

so everything went well, the install finished successfully, so it said. i rebooted my laptop and it goes to the gray screen with the apple logo and the loading circle thing, then it goes to this screen with all these crazy lines and such which move around and turns into a plain white screen with a black bar in the mid-right part of the screen and just hangs there and i cant do anything.

 

not sure what else to add here, so let me know if you need more information. any help is appreciated. thanks in advance

[Guest]

I don't know much about your comp or that version, however are you sure you were supposed to use GUID.. since usually its MBR.. correct me if i'm wrong.

 

Also, correct video drivers? maybe choose not to install any at all..

 

Try at bootup to use certain flags such as -v which will load a log (verbose mode) and give some info of where the problem is occurring.

[sstoveld]

Thanks for the fast response, wasn't expecting one so quickly lol. I just left the house, writing this from my iPhone. I'll double check on the drivers when I get back. I also tried -v but I didn't happen to notice the last lines it said before it went to that screen. I will post back when I get home

[sstoveld]

Ok I made sure I was using the correct drivers. Used MBR inateasld of GUID. using verbose startup flag doesn't give me any errors that I see. I can't figure out what's wrong. I guess I'll try to use no video drivers at all.

 

 

Any other ideas?

[westwaerts]

Ok I made sure I was using the correct drivers. Used MBR inateasld of GUID. using verbose startup flag doesn't give me any errors that I see. I can't figure out what's wrong. I guess I'll try to use no video drivers at all.

 

 

Any other ideas?

 

there are four patches out for IPC, did you patch the DVD before install ?

( Patches mean error corrections in this case)

 

did you first boot with -f flag ?

 

so boot with -f -v

if you still see no error ( as it is so early) the acpi or iopci is wrong

video drivers dont load as early, that you dont see anything

[sstoveld]

there are four patches out for IPC, did you patch the DVD before install ?

( Patches mean error corrections in this case)

 

did you first boot with -f flag ?

 

so boot with -f -v

if you still see no error ( as it is so early) the acpi or iopci is wrong

video drivers dont load as early, that you dont see anything

Ok I'm at the installation screen now looking through these patches but I'm lost lol. Not sure which ones I want to choose. There are like 50 different options here.

[sstoveld]

I read a guide on here a little bit ago saying that the less drivers you install during installation the better. So the only thing I checked was the kernel to use. Still getting that white screen.

 

I booted with -f -v and the only error that I saw was initialization of FireWire. I can't figure this out at all.

 

Is it because I'm not selecting a patch that I might need? I have no idea which one(s) I need.

 

Anyone got any ideas?

[sstoveld]

bump. sorry, anyone got any suggestions?

 

edit: this white screen i am talking about... it first goes to this light blue screen after the mac logo screen, then it flickers from the blue screen to all these weird lines moving and such and kind of forms into a white screen with a horizontal big black bar in the mid-right section of the screen, from top to bottom. has anyone else experienced this?

[westwaerts]

you need to patch the IPC OSX86.iso, with all patches, then burn it again, then reinstall.

( NOT THE PATCHES FOR THE INSTALLATION)

 

if you come to the blue screen, then you got problems, its most likely your grafic card driver.

so erase the partition ( not the whole HD), reinstall without any grafic driver ( that can be done later)

and try to get on osx.

[sstoveld]

you need to patch the IPC OSX86.iso, with all patches, then burn it again, then reinstall.

( NOT THE PATCHES FOR THE INSTALLATION)

 

if you come to the blue screen, then you got problems, its most likely your grafic card driver.

so erase the partition ( not the whole HD), reinstall without any grafic driver ( that can be done later)

and try to get on osx.

Where are these patches you're talking about? I'm confused lol

[ForestGuardian]

The blue screen is normal, especially when using custom or non-apple video kexts. It often precedes the desktop loading. In this case, it sounds like you have a definite video driver issue.

 

Post your exact technical specifications so we can isolate the problem more efficiently, and pick out what exact injectors or drivers you need. You should post the specs in your signature as well, so your system build is always available when you post.

 

Addendum: You can also search the hardware and driver database, so you can select what you need from the installation, or track down what isn't available on the dvd.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showforum=2

[sstoveld]

Ok I'm in class right now so I'll post my specs when I get home

[sstoveld]

here are my specs...

 

Fujitsu Lifebook A6110

--------------------------

Motherboard: FUJITSU FJNB1DA

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2GHz

Memory: 2GB

Video Card: Intel Mobile GMA X3100

 

theres a quick summary. ive got a full report uploaded to my website, heres a link:

 

http://stovelddesign.com/report.htm

[ForestGuardian]

here are my specs...

 

Fujitsu Lifebook A6110

--------------------------

Motherboard: FUJITSU FJNB1DA

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2GHz

Memory: 2GB

Video Card: Intel Mobile GMA X3100

 

theres a quick summary. ive got a full report uploaded to my website, heres a link:

 

http://stovelddesign.com/report.htm

 

 

"Motherboard chipset unknown" - You may want to track that info down, just in case you ever need to match an AHCI or

ATA controller kext for future updates.

 

In the meantime, your first step is to download the PPF patches for the iPC ISO. They are recommended updates to the kext packages and scripts contained in that dvd image, and will ensure more compatible installations.

 

Graphics issue: You will have to remove all the graphics drivers that are already on your target drive. The best way to do this is to use Terminal commands after booting from the iPC dvd. However, I have very little knowledge on Terminal syntax. You can research online, or just ask in these forums.

 

Otherwise, repeat the installation without choosing any graphic card drivers. You should be able to boot then, though without acceleration and possibly limited resolution of 1024x768. Once you're in MacOSX, download and use OSx86 Universtal Installer (named simply UInstaller) to install the EFI bootloader and add an EFI string for the GMA graphic chipset. For now, you don't need to check anything else in the UInstaller window, just EFIv9 and the GFX string. UInstaller also gives you the option of adding a native resolution to your boot.plist as well, and you can enter the maximum your video chipset can display.

 

Addendum! I don't know if there is support for the X3100 GMA, but at least the EFI string may get you a workable resolution and some GL support. However, unless there is a specific kext for it from the iPC installer, you may not get acceleration without a custom injector.

 

For future post-installation work, create a small utility partition from which to boot OSX. Once you have that up and running, you can always use it in the event that something breaks your main installation.

[sstoveld]

when i was installing it yesterday having these problems, i tried a few times without any video drivers and still had the problem. so my guess is that its maybe because i dont have these patches for the install dvd? where do i get them? thanks for the reply

[sstoveld]

just installed 2 patches to my iso. i downloaded it patched already to PPF3, so i just applied PPF4 and PPF5. just burned it and am about to try it out... will post back in a few

[ForestGuardian]

Link to the PPF patches for iPC: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=142661

Edit: Looks like you've already started. Good luck!

Add. Incidentally, looks like they just updated GMAX3100 support

 

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Are you able to boot from the DVD with no video errors, or are you already installing from a utility drive? A base installation with just the necessary packages should (theoretically) work fine. If you can boot from the DVD, but your installation, sans video kexts, gives you problems, then it's something else.

 

As Westwaerts mentioned, it could be related to IOPCI. Though, I'm not sure if a bad ACPI can cause a graphic anomaly like that. If none of the power management patches provided with iPC work on that Fujitsu laptop, try selecting none at all. Also search for alternative IOPCI and ACPI -related kexts. You may have to temporarily remove yours altogether if there is no fix.

[sstoveld]

Ok well I just tried another install on a blank drive (completely committed to osx86) but I still have the same problem. I am installing from this DVD I patched to ppf5. I did not select any customization options such as kernels or drivers though. I don't understand what's wrong here...

 

Edit: trying again with GMAX3100 driver on fresh drive

[sstoveld]

Second attempt at install also didn't work when I checked the GMAX3100 display driver. Booted first with -f -v and still no good. Although this time I noticed this message in verbose boot:

 

display: family specific matching fails

 

Any ideas? I did not select any kernels btw as I have an intel core 2 duo

[ForestGuardian]

"display: family specific matching fails"

 

Yeah, that's normal. I get that, too, on some installations. It just means the device names in your kexts don't match what your hardware is telling the OS, but most often they'll work anyway, or at least give you non-accelerated video.

 

Kernel type shouldn't make a difference here. Experimentation will likely just cause kernel panics.

 

It's not uncommon that you can boot off the DVD, but have a non-working installation. That's what leads me to think that the iPC installer is adding something incombpatible. The only way to isolate the bad kext now is to try different packages from within the installer, be it their addition or removal. Aside from finding someone else who has the same or a similar laptop, you just have to install, restart, and do it all over again I know how you feel.

 

Have you tried an installation with absolutely nothing checked except for the minimum requirement? A successful startup would simulate booting from the bare OS on the DVD, and help to pinpoint the cause of your problem.

[sstoveld]

What would the minimum requirement be? I've tried about 15 different variations installing but every one has had the same outcome. Is it possible my hardware is just not compatible? It gets very frustrating . I appreciate the help

 

Edit: I've tried with absolutely nothing checked and tried with nothing but the GMAX3100 driver but those did not work

[ForestGuardian]

Frustrating is puting it mildly As I type this, I'm waiting for another configuration to finish installing on my Toshiba A210 AMD. All I can say (without cursing) is, "Good grief!"

 

 

I should have been more specific. Minimum requirements in an OSx86 installation normally require:

 

• a motherboard chipset ATA controller (nforce, sas, via, etc) This is where you'll need to know exactly what your motherboard type is. This may even be a direct cause of your startup issue. Though, the end result is usually a stall on "waiting for root device".

• some form of AHCI management (directly related to BIOS settings and booting from SATA hard drives, but often a source of trouble for mobile users of OSx86 due to the skeletal BIOS enabled on laptops. again, causes root device error during incompatibilities)

• a kernel. N/A in your case

• a video driver. N/A here again

• IOUSB / PS2 controllers N/A here since this most often applies to towers, or if your laptop keyboard and trackpad end up being disabled on startup).

 

EDIT:

• AppleSMBIOS - tells the OS what model of computer it's running on, and what components are contained, etc. likely not the cause of your problem, but you may want to limit your choices to the hardcoded MacBook or MacBookPro patch

 

BTW what happened when you installed nothing but the GMAX3100? Did the same thing happen?

[sstoveld]

Yup. Same thing happened . Gonna try some more configurations. I'll post back in a few

[sstoveld]

Just tried selecting the smbios machookpro along with the intel ichx sata driver. Hanging on still waiting on root device. I see one error in yellow. Failed to load extension com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPCI

[ForestGuardian]

This is a hunch... but ONLY a hunch.

 

Remove the battery pack. Use the AC adaptor solely for power, if this model lets you do so, then boot off your Leopard installation (whatever last configuration got you to the funky screen).

 

If you still don't get any display output, listen for increased fan noise; check for a blinking hard drive activity light (if there is one); turn up the audio, or plug in headphones if there is no speaker output (sometimes the sound-out may defaults to line-out in OSx86**); press some FKeys (hold down F12, which ejects the optical drive tray), press the Enter key, or even press all keys in a continuous string; you can even plug in a USB keyboard and mouse in the event your laptop's keyboard and trackpad (as in some cases) have been disabled under 10.5.6.

 

The point is to check for any activity or response whatsoever from the computer to see if it has frozen, gone to sleep, or stalled in some weird, half-baked low-power mode (which is why I suggest removing the battery).

 

** Try the Azalia audio kext first, then the AC97, but not both at the same time.

 

 

Add: I just saw your most recent post regarding the root device error and the failed extension load. That may be a very important factor, as ACPI kexts control the amount of power your CPU, and in this case PCI devices, use. I suggest that you add one, but only one, power management kext. I'd help you choose, but I have no idea what's on that iPC list. As for the "root device", select the nForce, JMicron, and VIAATA drivers, 32-bit versions if possible. There should be no conflict when selecting those three together (none that I know of).

 

Last note for the evening, another solution to "root device" errors: If you are given the option under your BIOS to set SATA controller mode to AHCI, as opposed to IDE, do so (but since it's a laptop, I doubt it's even there).

 

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