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MacUser2525
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Im trying to overclock this chip to 3.5 to 3.6 on a ga-p35-ds3l board, but I can't get the chip past 2.7 GHz.

 

I am out of ideas.

 

My specs are in the sig, except I have 800MHz memory, and the cpu runs at 2.53GHz stock.

 

It might be an idea to list what you have tried setting wise/what they are set at now. Looking at the specification of the chip it runs a 9.5x multiplier so you need a FSB of ~380mhz to get 3.6ghz. So try setting it to that the ram multiplier to 2x leaving the voltage at stock for the chip then +.1v for the MCH and FSB while disabling the C1E, Speedstep and depending on the voltage your ram needs to run at its stock ratings you may need to add a +.1v or +.2v for 1.9v, 2.0v ram as that board defaults to 1.8v with the auto setting.

kramer2k
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Whats the stock number? I.e. week number, plant of assembly..

 

ex.. Q751A473

Q = Plant (Malaysia), S= costa rica

7 = year (2007), 8 would be 2008

51 = Week of year

A = not sure, but A's made in malaysia are better than B. A's from Costa rica still suck

 

And I would ask when you bought it. The e7200s recently are being made in Costa Rica, and suck OCing.

jaikob
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This is the one I bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115052

 

Here are the available settings I see:

How Would I Tweak Them?

 

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]

CPU Clock Ratio [9x]

Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]

CPU Host Clock Control [Enabled]

CPU Host Frequency [270]

PCI Express Frequency [Auto]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [standard]

System Memory Multiplier(SPD) [Auto]

System Voltage Control [Auto]

DDR2 OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED

PCI-E OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED

FSB OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED

(G) MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED

CPU Voltage Control [Normal] DISABLED

Normal CPU Vcore [1.18750v]

 

I Basically have all settings on stock settings.

 

I also do not see anything in BIOS about SpeedStepping.

NickF
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"PCI Express Frequency [Auto]"

 

set this manually to 100

 

also hit ctrl-F1 in the bios before going to the page where the overclocking settings are to see all settings

 

"System Memory Multiplier(SPD) [Auto]"

 

also you will need to set this to prevent overclocking your ram

jaikob
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"PCI Express Frequency [Auto]"

 

set this manually to 100

 

also hit ctrl-F1 in the bios before going to the page where the overclocking settings are to see all settings

 

"System Memory Multiplier(SPD) [Auto]"

 

also you will need to set this to prevent overclocking your ram

 

That did not work, the system shut down, and turned the clock back to Auto.

 

I only tried 2.9GHz too.

MacUser2525
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That did not work, the system shut down, and turned the clock back to Auto.

 

I only tried 2.9GHz too.

 

Forget the auto set it to 2x so you know it will always be under your rams top speed as long as the FSB is under 400mhz and here.

DDR2 OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED  <-- will be 1.8 at normal put extra if ram needs it to be higher.
PCI-E OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED
FSB OverVoltage Control   [Normal] DISABLED  <---- +.1
(G) MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] DISABLED  <-- +.1
CPU Voltage Control		  [Normal] DISABLED

jaikob
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That didn't work :)

 

Can you use the template posted above, with the required settings? I'm pretty new at O'Cing and I just need some guidance. Everytime The machine restarts, after saving my OC settings, it shuts down and reverts settings :/

 

I have 800MHz memory, and the processor info you can get above.

 

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]

CPU Clock Ratio [9x]

Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]

CPU Host Clock Control [Enabled]

CPU Host Frequency [333]

PCI Express Frequency [Auto]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [standard]

System Memory Multiplier(SPD) [Auto] "I See numbers like 2.00, 2.5, not 2X?

System Voltage Control [Auto]

DDR2 OverVoltage Control [Normal]

PCI-E OverVoltage Control [Normal]

FSB OverVoltage Control [Normal]

(G) MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal]

CPU Voltage Control [Normal]

Normal CPU Vcore [1.18750v]

MacUser2525
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That didn't work :)

 

Can you use the template posted above, with the required settings? I'm pretty new at O'Cing and I just need some guidance. Everytime The machine restarts, after saving my OC settings, it shuts down and reverts settings :/

 

I take it you mean the machine freezes and you have to hard reset/power down to start again??

 

I have 800MHz memory, and the processor info you can get above.

 

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]

CPU Clock Ratio [9x]

Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]

CPU Host Clock Control [Enabled]

CPU Host Frequency [333]

PCI Express Frequency [Auto] 100

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Performance Enhance [standard]

System Memory Multiplier(SPD) [Auto] "I See numbers like 2.00, 2.5, not 2X? 2.00

System Voltage Control [Auto]

DDR2 OverVoltage Control [Normal] if needed by ram sticks eg it says 1.9v the +.1 2.0v then +.2

PCI-E OverVoltage Control [Normal]

FSB OverVoltage Control [Normal] +.1

(G) MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] +.1

CPU Voltage Control [Normal]

Normal CPU Vcore [1.18750v]

 

Now get the mprime file below and extract it then open Terminal and change to the directory you downloaded it too taking the default in Safari it will be in your Downloads and use something like this below.

 

 macuser2525s-mac-pro:mprime255-MacOSX MacUser2525$ ./mprime
	  Main Menu

  1.  Test/Primenet
  2.  Test/Worker threads
  3.  Test/Status
  4.  Test/Continue
  5.  Test/Exit
  6.  Advanced/Test
  7.  Advanced/Time
  8.  Advanced/P-1
  9.  Advanced/ECM
 10.  Advanced/Manual Communication
 11.  Advanced/Unreserve Exponent
 12.  Advanced/Quit Gimps
 13.  Options/CPU
 14.  Options/Preferences
 15.  Options/Torture Test
 16.  Options/Benchmark
 17.  Help/About
 18.  Help/About PrimeNet Server
Your choice: 15

Number of torture test threads to run (4): 4
Choose a type of torture test to run.
1 = Small FFTs (maximum FPU stress, data fits in L2 cache, RAM not tested 
much).
2 = In-place large FFTs (maximum heat and power consumption, some RAM 
tested).
3 = Blend (tests some of everything, lots of RAM tested).
11,12,13 = Allows you to fine tune the above three selections.
Blend is the default.  NOTE: if you fail the blend test, but can pass the 
small FFT test then your problem is likely bad memory or a bad memory 
controller.
Type of torture test to run (3): 3

Accept the answers above? (Y): y
[Main thread Nov 30 21:08] Starting worker threads.
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:08] Work thread starting
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:08] Work thread starting
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:08] Work thread starting
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:08] Work thread starting
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:08] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:08] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:08] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:08] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:08] Please read stress.txt.  Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:08] Please read stress.txt.  Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:08] Please read stress.txt.  Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:08] Please read stress.txt.  Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:08] Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using FFT length 1024K.
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:08] Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using FFT length 1024K.
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:08] Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using FFT length 1024K.
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:08] Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using FFT length 1024K.

 

You would answer 2 to the number of threads the Control and C keys at the same time will kill the running of it giving you something like below.

 

 ^C[Main thread Nov 30 21:10] Stopping all worker threads.
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:10] Torture Test ran 2 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:10] Torture Test ran 2 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:10] Torture Test ran 2 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
[Worker #1 Nov 30 21:10] Work thread stopped.
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:10] Torture Test ran 2 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
[Worker #3 Nov 30 21:10] Work thread stopped.
[Worker #2 Nov 30 21:10] Work thread stopped.
[Worker #4 Nov 30 21:10] Work thread stopped.
[Main thread Nov 30 21:10] Execution halted.

Hit enter to continue: 
	  Main Menu

  1.  Test/Primenet
  2.  Test/Worker threads
  3.  Test/Status
  4.  Test/Continue
  5.  Test/Exit
  6.  Advanced/Test
  7.  Advanced/Time
  8.  Advanced/P-1
  9.  Advanced/ECM
 10.  Advanced/Manual Communication
 11.  Advanced/Unreserve Exponent
 12.  Advanced/Quit Gimps
 13.  Options/CPU
 14.  Options/Preferences
 15.  Options/Torture Test
 16.  Options/Benchmark
 17.  Help/About
 18.  Help/About PrimeNet Server
Your choice: 5

macuser2525s-mac-pro:mprime255-MacOSX MacUser2525$

 

You want it to run for at least an hour without error probably several more to be sure the overclock works. The Speedstep and C1E are in the power management if I remember it correctly look for Intel Enhanced something for Speedstep. Another thing are just running that flimsy little stock cooler? If so then you will want to get a better cooler before going too high with an overclock.

mprime255_MacOSX.tar.gz

MacUser2525
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the machine doesnt get past the bios. It says Memory Test, then resets itself.

 

Keep dropping the FSB (CPU Host Frequency) until the machine boots plus you don't tell us which settings you are changing and if still using the stock cooler.

MacUser2525
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I bought a zeroTherm cooler. Its a big sucker too. Takes up a lot of room in my case. So cooling isn't the issue.

 

Alright, there is a problem that I can't even get the thing to 2.6 GHz now....

 

Alright should be good for the cooling then, your still going to have to tells us what you are changing or we will not be able to help as we are not mind readers here. My suggestion is to start over by loading either the optimized or fail-safe defaults then get it booting to OS X reboot and save a BIOS config to say StockOSX for the profile. Once this is done then start with the overclock step by step leave all the voltages as normal set the ram to 2.00 then the CPU Host Frequency to 275-300 range get it booting test with the mprime for a few minutes to ensure no errors then start raising it up 10 at a time checking again for no errors once they appear raise the voltages since your VID (Normal CPU Vcore [1.18750v]) is so low you may want to raise it up to around 1.25v to 1.3v in as small a steps as possible until the errors go away.

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