OsageCowboy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Will I be able to install it on my Core2Duo PC at home? E6400 on an ASUS P5B-E mobo with 8800GTX and dual Raptors running in RAID. I totally appreciate the advice. If I can go to the store and purchase the OS, then I'll definitely hook it up. And, if I do this, should I be concerned about stuff that could be transmitted to Apple? Thanks again! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexyGalaxy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The whole point of the OSx86 Project is to make Mac OS X available to Non-Macintosh computers. Regards, Alex Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageCowboy Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The whole point of the OSx86 Project is to make Mac OS X available to Non-Macintosh computers. Regards, Alex I understand there are hoops to jump through, but if I purchase the retail DVD will I be able to jump through those hoops to install it, or will it be a paper weight? Basically, I would LIKE to purchase the retail DVD if I can install it without resorting to "other means". Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexyGalaxy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Mac OS X gets it's reputation for working so well because the install DVD is made specially for Apple branded hardware. If you want OS X to work on your PC using the official install disc, you'll have to patch the install disc which isn't too hard, but if I were you I'd just download an image that's already been patched. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 <br />I understand there are hoops to jump through, but if I purchase the retail DVD will I be able to jump through those hoops to install it, or will it be a paper weight? Basically, I would LIKE to purchase the retail DVD if I can install it without resorting to "other means". Thanks.<br /> You can try the boot123 you basically boot with one CD then put in the retail disk to do your install from the retail disk you purchased once done you would need to install a few .kext that are needed to boot like dsmos.kext & the modified AppleSMBIOS or non-modified by using AppleSMBIOSEFI plus any others needed specific to your board. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageCowboy Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 You can try the boot123 you basically boot with one CD then put in the retail disk to do your install from the retail disk you purchased once done you would need to install a few .kext that are needed to boot like dsmos.kext & the modified AppleSMBIOS or non-modified by using AppleSMBIOSEFI plus any others needed specific to your board. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288 Where should I go to learn about installing "kexts" after installing the OS and performing another CDBoot? I am not familiar with the kext concept, etc. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Freeman Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yep you can install fine from retail disc using the boot-123 method. The only reason you might need to patch a file on the disc is if you want to use a MBR partition map (for dual-booting with XP. I think Vista can handle GUID fine). The retail disc will only allow installation to a GUID partition map. If XP isn't in the equation then you can leave the disc untouched. You should also search through the forum here for your hardware and see how well it's supported. Some parts work out-of-the-box, some need a bit more persuasion and some just plain don't work at all. The 8800GTX should be no problem. I don't know what sata and lan that board uses but if it's an Intel chipset you should be set. I think the nforce chipsets are flaky enough with OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I don't know what sata and lan that board uses but if it's an Intel chipset you should be set. I think the nforce chipsets are flaky enough with OS X.<br /><br /><br />ICH8R & Attansic L1 according to quick search I did should be good to go for the drives in the system could be problems with the LAN though. To answer the other questions a .kext (kernel extensions) bundle is just basically the driver files that are needed to run your hardware in the machine. I believe the idea for installing the ones needed is that you can use a USB or even second hard drive already in the machine to install them from. The procedure would be to use diskutil to make sure the drive is mounted then the Terminal to copy the files from one to the other probably going back to diskutil to repair permissions on the drive you installed too before rebooting into the new install. If the installer does not let you get the chance to go back to these operations then you can always boot again with the OSX DVD to use diskutil and Terminal to do the copying/repairing then quit before going through another install because in addition to being an install disk it is a rescue/recovery disk as well. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsageCowboy Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yep you can install fine from retail disc using the boot-123 method. The only reason you might need to patch a file on the disc is if you want to use a MBR partition map (for dual-booting with XP. I think Vista can handle GUID fine). The retail disc will only allow installation to a GUID partition map. If XP isn't in the equation then you can leave the disc untouched. You should also search through the forum here for your hardware and see how well it's supported. Some parts work out-of-the-box, some need a bit more persuasion and some just plain don't work at all. The 8800GTX should be no problem. I don't know what sata and lan that board uses but if it's an Intel chipset you should be set. I think the nforce chipsets are flaky enough with OS X. Wow, you guys are REALLY helpful here! So, let me run this through you guys: (1) I download and burn the Boot 123 onto a DVD. (2) I insert the OSX Retail where needed. (3) I complete the installation. (4) Upon restart, I have to again boot from the DVD. (5) I then install this program called "Chamelon" with its integrated EFI that allows me to boot from the HDD. (6) I install "Kexts" which fit my machine. I understand this to be the process. I am still not familiar with Kext installation. What is the easiest way to do this? Run from the terminal via commands, or is there something I can use after booting from the Retail DVD? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Freeman Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yeah that's pretty much it. If you use the Chameleon installer from Kalyway (it's in one of the 123 threads) that will let you copy the kexts from the boot-123 disc to the hd allowing you to boot from hard disk. Then you can add/remove kexts to better match your hardware. If you want to keep your installation as untouched as possible (like me) you place your kexts in the /Extra/Extensions folder (created by kalyway's Chameleon installer) on the root of the drive. I do this for patched/edited system kexts so I don't have to worry about them being replaced by future OS updates. The only kexts I couldn't do this with were AppleHDA and AppleACPIPlatform so I had to overwrite the original kexts in /System/Library/Extensions. The easiest way to install kexts to the System folder is with kexthelper. It will backup the original kext and install your new one, rebuilding the kext cache and repairing permissions. To add kexts to the Extra folder you just copy them in. Then delete the file extensions.mkext in /System/Library (this is a cache of loaded kexts). Finally repair permissions and reboot. You will probably need to add the -f flag to your com.apple.Boot.plist file to get it to rebuild the cache on boot to load the extra extensions. I know I had trouble when I removed the -f flag so I can't say for certain if you definitely need it all the time. But it works for me here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-863182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 You will probably need to add the -f flag to your com.apple.Boot.plist file to get it to rebuild the cache on boot to load the extra extensions. I know I had trouble when I removed the -f flag so I can't say for certain if you definitely need it all the time. But it works for me here. You can do the rebuild by hitting the F8 key when booting to bring up the boot menu using the hit any key option to get to the boot prompt then type in and hit ENTER key -f I usually go with a -v to boot with text mode as well so it becomes -v -f entered on the line. This after having removed the caches to be certain they are rebuilt on reboot like below as root. rm -r /System/Library/Extensions/Caches rm -r /System/Library/Extensions.mkext rm -r /System/Library/Caches Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/121945-so-if-i-purchase-osx-from-apple-n00b-question/#findComment-864064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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