8086ed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** EDIT ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** It works! Scroll down to post 19 for details! ***************************************************************** I read somewhere that you could dd from WinXP. I considder myself pretty experienced with Windows, but never have had to "dd" anything. Do you have to install a separate app to dd? Or can you just run it from the command line? From http://www.360hacker.net/forums/viewtopic....r=asc&start=30: 1. Boot into Linux. 2. Open a terminal and run the su command to become root. 3. Your C: drive is most like NTFS and on /dev/hda1 so run this command: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt 4. cd /mnt and you should be looking at your C drive folders and files. 5. cp tiger-86-flat.img / (this may be a unnecessary step but I dont trust running dd and reading from an ntfs partition 6. run the command cd / 7. then run the dd command from above looks like dd if=/tiger-x86-flat.img of= etc etc etc If you could dd from Windows, this would be the easiest install to date, right? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 I found a link for dd for windows, but it doesn't look like it has all the features. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm Anybody have experience with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncodedProcess83 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 that dd will do just fine. there is a nice guide to do this, available here: http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html if ya want, you could use the dd at the link provided at the site. either way, it should work. however, if you want to do it on a partition, ive never done that before, but you would use the dd at the link provided by 8086ed, because of its support of '--link'. a guide for that is available here: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.ph...le_And_Accurate if ya choose to use the first method, remember you cant do it on ur windows hard drive, as you'll erase windows, and will have to restart the os from scratch. good luck to both of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Haha, it was just me; I replied to my own post instead of editing. Thank you A LOT! Hopefully I'll have it up and running tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideasman Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 i found it easier and about 10x quicker using winhex awesome program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Are you willing to explain...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideasman Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 ok.. make sure you have a totally empty UN-partitioned drive. boot off your windows drive and load up winhex (need full version). Goto tools -> disk tools -> clone disk. load up the tiger-x86-flat.img file in the top box. select your EMPTY hard drive in the bottom box. also click the tick that says something about speeding up performance. then click ok until you see the status bar.. should take about 5 mins depending on the speed of your comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 That's cool, but I want to do it on my laptop, and don't have an external drive. I partitioned it, and want to put it on that partition. Do you have a way to do that? It sounds a lot faster and easier; I'm all about faster and easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideasman Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 i took out my laptop drive and used an adapter so i could chuck it in a standard pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I have been reading... ALOT.... but just never can find the right informtion. Is it possible to install Mac on an extended partition? I have my Winderz on C:/ drive, I created a 20gig extended partion from it using PartitionMagic. Maybe it's absolutely neccessary to install Mac on it's own drive as a primary partition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 IDK if that's possible. It's really easy to delete that extended partition and create a primary from w/in Partition Magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 IDK if that's possible. It's really easy to delete that extended partition and create a primary from w/in Partition Magic. yes you are right. I'm worried about not being able to boot back into windows again. It's very rare that one has to edit the create/delete partition and edit MBR. Data are all backed up and yes, it's pretty stupid of me to run this on a production computer. But I think it's worth it. I still have my pocketpc to get back to this site incase something does goes wrong . Assuming thet all my hardware requirments are met and all appropriate patches are applied, I can just use the version from vmware and Mac will recognize my hardware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 I don't know, man. I'm no expert on this, but it should at least run. Don't take that advice to mean anything though. I don't usually even backup my data when running Partition Magic, but I don't do anything that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Going home to try it. If I don't break anything, I'll let you guys know how it works tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 good luck to you 8086ed . I keep stalling myself cause if I mess up, thats another week of trying to get my data and windows back in order . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncodedProcess83 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Assuming thet all my hardware requirments are met and all appropriate patches are applied, I can just use the version from vmware and Mac will recognize my hardware? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> if ur talkin about the vmware image "tiger-x86-flat.img" then it should. the dd method should work [and the apparent hex editor, which ive never done], but since the data on ur comp seems to be very sensitive, id suggest trying it on an extra drive, just to be safe. although the final decision is up to u. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Yes EncodedProcess83. Thank you for pointing that out. I will run out and get a 40gig drive, rip out the existing hdd and install the new one. then I can finally contribute to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8086ed Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Alright... After staying up until 3AM last night, I got it working. Parts taken from http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.ph...le_And_Accurate (Thank you, EncodedProcess83!) I used Partition Magic to resize my Windows partition, then followed these directions from the wiki above (I did NOT create a partition yet): New partition (Windows XP method) You will need a 6gb Partition for the OSX install. Most installs of Windows use the full drive under one partition. So you will need to free up space. There are many tools out there that can resize a partition (OSX will boot from the end of the drive, so no worries) like Partition Magic. Resize your partition so you have over 6.5 gb left at the end. Leave it completely blank for now (do not create a filesystem or partition of any kind). The diskpart utility (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/diskpart.mspx) included with Windows XP can create a suitable partition without booting into Linux. Run diskpart from cmd. DISKPART> list disk Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt -------- ---------- ------- ------- --- --- Disk 0 Online 56 GB 0 B DISKPART> select disk 0 Disk 0 is now the selected disk. Extended partitions will not work, only primary partitions. If there are "Extended" and "Logical" partitions, they can be deleted and a primary partition can be created in their place. The logical partition deletes fine with diskpart, but trying to delete the extended partition (the container that holds logical partitions) in diskpart may result in this error: DISKPART> delete partition The selected partition may be neccessary to the operation of your computer, and may not be deleted. If this occurs, the logical partition can be deleted in Disk Manangement, which can be ran by typing diskmgmt.msc in cmd, or for those that prefer the GUI: Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Managament -> Disk Management. After there is enough free space, proceed to create a primary partition of type 0xaf: DISKPART> create partition primary id=af DISKPART> list partition Partition ### Type Size Offset ------------- ---------------- ------- ------- Partition 1 Primary 32 GB 32 KB * Partition 2 Unknown 24 GB 32 GB DISKPART> exit If you wanted the partition to be only around 6.5gb since that's all the Tiger image is, and you don't want a whole 40gb HD gone to waste with a HFS+ filesystem that Windows can't read, use the "create" command with the size attribute like this: (same as above but notice the Size attribute): DISKPART> create partition primary size=6660 id=af Notice how diskpart says the type is "Unknown". Disk Management will show "Healthy (Unknown partition)" as well if you specified the type correctly and it will not show up as a drive letter under Windows. You are now ready to load this new partition with Apple's HFS+ disk image. Using dd for Windows, I used a command similar to this: dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=\\?\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 bs=512 skip=63 The dd didn't take an hour... it took TWO!!! I'm on a 5400 RPM 100GB laptop drive, though. Read the wiki for more details. I then used partition magic to set the OSX partition as active and Voila! It works! It booted fine with no need to use any boot options. Audio even works. I still have a to-do list, though: Wireless needs a driver or something Core Graphics needs patch Need Video Drivers USB doesn't work Need to apply SSE3 patch Need to set up Boot Loader ENJOY! I'll find what I need eventually, but if you guys could point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful. BTW, the machine I put it on is a: Dell XPS G2 Laptop 2.13 Pentium M (SSE2) 1GB RAM 100GB HDD GeForce 6800 Go Ultra Broadcom 570x Gb Ethernet Adapter Dell Wireless 1370 Wireless card If you guys have experience with any of the last three parts in OSX86, and can get them working to their full potential (I'm 80% sure the Ethernet is working fine.), PLEASE let me know. Thanks for your support, and good luck to all who attempt it! BTW, I used the tiger-x86flat.img image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilanoRex Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I used the same exact method last night, it worked perfectly! Mine also took 2 hours.. but it was worth it. Now I just cant figure out how to Dual boot WinXP and OSX. Any help there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMaximuM Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 ok.. make sure you have a totally empty UN-partitioned drive. boot off your windows drive and load up winhex (need full version). Goto tools -> disk tools -> clone disk. load up the tiger-x86-flat.img file in the top box. select your EMPTY hard drive in the bottom box. also click the tick that says something about speeding up performance. then click ok until you see the status bar.. should take about 5 mins depending on the speed of your comp. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, I tried to do this, but the programa told "The volume does not contain a regognized file system"... Did tou say "un-partioned drive" ? ... How It's possible ?? Help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncodedProcess83 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 haha. glad to be of help. MilanoRex, theres an FAQ on dualbooting with WinGRUB on the wiki: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.ph...oot_Related_FAQ SirMaximM, an unpartitioned drive just means that theres no split, as in the drive is only recognized as one letter, if any at all. you can check this using the app called partition magic. try using the dd method. unless ideasman wants to help you out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilanoRex Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 haha. glad to be of help. MilanoRex, theres an FAQ on dualbooting with WinGRUB on the wiki: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.ph...oot_Related_FAQ SirMaximM, an unpartitioned drive just means that theres no split, as in the drive is only recognized as one letter, if any at all. you can check this using the app called partition magic. try using the dd method. unless ideasman wants to help you out there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WinGrub didnt work for me.. i got it working with the chain0 boot method. Both systems working perfectly now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMaximuM Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Ok, I'm tring by dd methodo, so ... I have a 2 partitions, first with WiXP and seccond un-formated, how can I use this command: dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda2 bs=512 skip=63 ?? The partition is un-formated, this command will be able to work? What's the name of the "un-formated" partition? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EncodedProcess83 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Ok, I'm tring by dd methodo, so ... I have a 2 partitions, first with WiXP and seccond un-formated, how can I use this command: dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda2 bs=512 skip=63 ?? The partition is un-formated, this command will be able to work? What's the name of the "un-formated" partition? Thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok. it depends. if ur using windows, then no. the command above uses linux "references" to hard disk partitions. use the command 'dd --list' and from there decide whcih partition to use. the command should look like this if in windows: dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=//?/Device/Harddisk0/Partition2 bs=512 skip=63 obviously depending on ur partition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMaximuM Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Thx for reply, now I have the MAC OS X installed, but have few problems, pls help me: http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=1318 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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