Suprjacob Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hello. I have a MSI P6N Diamond MB. nVidia 680i. Using their Ethernet/internet drivers. I am having just a fun time with it. Whenever I restart or shutdown from Vista, I see that it turns off my LAN! The little green light goes dead. Neither Ubuntu or OSX does that! The little green light stays on, even when the computer is off! So here's my problems: 1) When I boot into OSX when restarting from Vista, I get no internet what-so-ever. The green light turns on 3 seconds after OSX boots, but I get a 'Self-Assigned IP' deal in Sys Prefs>Networking. 162.xxx.xxx.xxx. Annoying. 2) When I boot into OSX when restarting from Ubuntu, I get perfect internet. Little green LAN light stays on the entire time, and the DHCP and Ethernet/internet in my Mac works great. 3) When I boot into Ubuntu when restarting from Vista, I get perfect internet again. Little green LAN turns on when Ubuntu is booting and everything works fine. Forcedeth Ubuntu driver works good. 4) When I boot into Vista when restarting from Vista (I use GRUB btw), I get my Ethernet router, but no outside internet. WTF? The only way I can get it to see the internet is to plug the cable into the other LAN port a couple of times. OMG. So, I'm thinking this is either a Vista problem with nVidia's ethernet drivers OR a problem with the OSX Forcedeth driver. BUT, I didn't have this problem when I had Win XP before I wiped my Hard Drives and reinstalled everything. In conclusion, is there 1) a Forcedeth driver for Vista, or 2) an updated Forcedeth driver for OSX? (I used the one included with Kalyway 10.5.2) Thank you! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikatana Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 HI! You're correct, the problem is (2). The original forcedeth (Linux, not the Mac OS X port) has some code to reset the phy that is absent in the OSX port. With Windows XP there is exactly the same problem as yours (Boot XP -> reset & boot Mac OS X -> NIC doesn't work). It seems that the Windows driver leaves the NIC in a state which is non operative. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-832217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You can try to install the drivers by nVidia on there web site for Vista. That's a guess you can test if it's the Vista driver is wrong or something like that... Or go on the Device Manager and go onto the properties of your NIC and go tabs by tabs if there no options check for restart (or known problem of sleeping mode and power off the hardware) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-832277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Okay, I'm downloading the nVidia drivers for Vista now. I'll tell you how everything works out. But if it doesn't, is there a Forcedeth driver for Windows at all? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-833559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Installed new nVidia nForce 680i Drivers AND.... Total Problems Solved: 0 New Problems Created: Below. -No internet what-so-ever now in Vista. Still same Vista>boot OSX issue with no NIC. -Programs Terribly Crippled (won't start or work): --uTorrent --Free Download Manager --Mozilla Firefox 3 --Windows Live Messenger --Windows Update -Windows runs incredibly slower OSX and Ubuntu still run the same. Any new ideas? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-833750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hey men, I hope the nVidia drivers you download is compatible for SP1. I hope you check that before. Because that's a major problem if those wasn't destinated to SP1.. I don't know what you mean by "The forcedeth driver exist in Windows". The answer is nope. Cause Forcedeth is dedicately driver to OS X. Been created based on Linux code but not much on Windows. Windows drivers= OEM drivers (nVidia, Intel, SiS, VIA etc.) Check this out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-833763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hey men, I hope the nVidia drivers you download is compatible for SP1. I hope you check that before. Because that's a major problem if those wasn't destinated to SP1.. I don't know what you mean by "The forcedeth driver exist in Windows". The answer is nope. Cause Forcedeth is dedicately driver to OS X. Been created based on Linux code but not much on Windows. Windows drivers= OEM drivers (nVidia, Intel, SiS, VIA etc.) Check this out. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_32_9.64.html This is what I installed. It doesn't mention anything about SP1. But this is a serious problem. I can't do my work. I'm gonna have to find a copy of Microsoft Office Mac if I don't get this fixed soon! [ ] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-833992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_SONG_MAN Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 If the motherboard is MSI why didn't you download the MSI drivers because they could have been tweaked them for your motherboard. Are you running any security programs? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-834133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 OKAY then. Just like magic, everything is working perfectly again. WTF? I hate Windows. Except still: OSX booting from Vista - no internet problem. How fix? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-834519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikatana Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 As I already explained to you, the forcedeth port to Mac OS X doesn't reset the phy as in Linux. The only thing that is going to fix this problem is to add the code that is lacking in the OS X port (another solution is to shutdown the computer completely for 15 seconds or load Ubuntu than reboot and load OS X). Cause Forcedeth is dedicately driver to OS X. Been created based on Linux code but not much on Windows. Windows drivers= OEM drivers (nVidia, Intel, SiS, VIA etc.) Check this out. Um, no. forcedeth was written for the Linux kernel and then ported to Mac OS X. It doesn't contain any Windows code. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-834549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprjacob Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 As I already explained to you, the forcedeth port to Mac OS X doesn't reset the phy as in Linux. The only thing that is going to fix this problem is to add the code that is lacking in the OS X port (another solution is to shutdown the computer completely for 15 seconds or load Ubuntu than reboot and load OS X). Okay, thank you. I actually found out this morning that if I shutdown completely from Vista, network in OSX will work. Um, no. forcedeth was written for the Linux kernel and then ported to Mac OS X. It doesn't contain any Windows code. And yeah, I didn't think that was right... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-834803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankOS_Scripting Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 That what I said, Forcedeth is not made for Windows code. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/117476-forcedeth-for-vista/#findComment-836154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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