MacPub Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Ok right now i have a G4 MDD, im debating if i should just build a computer with osx86 specs or upgrade my graphics card on my G4 to a 256bit, 256mb ati radeon 9800xt. Im getting into some heavy rendering with blender3d and its taking for ever on my current vc. My question is this.....how exceptional is 3d rendering on hackintosh? is it even possible? Is it possible to play intel based mac games on a hackintosh? what about iWork 08? fcp? etc etc? or is the hackintosh only good for the same thing G4's are with there limited abilities? I dont like windows, never have liked windows and have been off of windows for almost a year and dont plan on going back. would like to hear everyones thoughts on modeling and animation and rendering under a hackintosh and software compatibilty. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 To answer your question broadly: Everything works perfectly! All the applications as well as intel only games. What's more, a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad hackintosh is incredibly fast for 3d rendering when compared to a G4. Personally I used luxology's Modo on an Intel Q6600 based hackintosh and was blown away. The Quad core rendered about 10-20x faster than a G4 1.33ghz. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacPub Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 can you give me some recommendations on hardware for a rendering hackintosh, and what release to download? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbobson Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 First off buy yourself a legitimate copy of OS X 10.5 to keep things kosher Second of all anything with a P35 chipset should do the trick for a full sized motherboard, it almost all works out of the box as It's the chipset used in Mac Pro's The Gigabyte P35-DS3L should do the trick, from there you can choose to go with whatever Core CPU you like, the E8400, and Q6600 are the best performers for your money respectively depending on whether you want dual or quad core Any DDRII RAM of the 800mhz variety or higher on top of this will work, the same goes with hard drives, and dvd burners your choice of video cards is really dependant on what you do any G92 core nvidia card will do the trick this includes anything in order of performance including a 9600GSO, 8800GT, to 9800GTX+ or any ATI RV670 core including ATi 2600, 2900, 3650, 3850, or 3870. In terms of the best over all best performance the 9800GTX+ will be your card in terms of value the HD3870 is hard to beat with it's recent price drops I run kallyways on my computer here it works fine, I just grabbed the aforementioned 10.5.2 DVD ISO plus the 10.5.3 updater and downloaded 10.5.4 from apple updates which didn't break my install Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyanf Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 If i'd were you i'd research on what is recommended for workstation graphic... Firstly CPU = Q6600 or Xeon 3230 Secondly Memory = 4GB / 8GB atleast those mid-class memory GPU = Varies as depending you screen size / color depth / 3D details (bump mapping/vertices... etc...) Best to check on Blender website for best configuration / performance -> depends on you budget You can have the best CPU but not with mediocre memory subsystem / chips / capasitor .... Fast CPU + Fast Memory + Fast Graphics + Slow HDD = No Go also Best bet is to start from average CPU + average memory + good graphic + raid 0 = better performance Anyway best of luck... I can conform that blender runs fine on my pc... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Puppy Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 For raytracing, the speed increases in a linear proportion to the number of cores. So get a quad-core processor, like the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 or better. A quad core may perform almost twice as fast as a similarly-clocked dual core in raytracing and rendering (ie, a Q6600 would be twice as fast as an E6600). Whereas raytracing does not require a powerful graphics card (as it is CPU-based), viewports run on graphics cards so better get a decent/powerful one. However, don't get those gaming-optimised overclocked graphics cards since they may cause artifacts and other instability issues in the viewports. I would discourage you from buying expensive workstation graphics like the Quadro cards, since they are much more expensive than the Geforce counterparts with minimal performance increase. So just get a nice Geforce or Radeon that is at stock speed. Also, since when rendering animations, all the cores of the CPU would be running at 100% for quite some time, I would recommend getting a nice CPU heatsink. And as the person above said, get fast RAM in large quantities (like, 8 GB) and a fast hard drive so that the final performance wouldn't be bottlenecked. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacPub Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 ok this is what i have chosen on newegg, my only concern is that the "P35" boards from gigabyte are being replaced with "EP35" boards, will they still work or do i need to look around for something different cause all new egg has of the P35 series is the "open box" deal, which im not to fond of to begin with. I chose the nVidia Quadro FX1500 for the video card, does anyone know if theres been success with this card? or should i just go with a like 9600gt or 8800gt? PNY Quadro FX1500 VCQFX1500-PCIE-PB-V Workstation Video Card GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor OCZ Reaper HPC 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W Power Supply Seagate Barracuda ES.2 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-826869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Puppy Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 ok this is what i have chosen on newegg, my only concern is that the "P35" boards from gigabyte are being replaced with "EP35" boards, will they still work or do i need to look around for something different cause all new egg has of the P35 series is the "open box" deal, which im not to fond of to begin with. I chose the nVidia Quadro FX1500 for the video card, does anyone know if theres been success with this card? or should i just go with a like 9600gt or 8800gt? PNY Quadro FX1500 VCQFX1500-PCIE-PB-V Workstation Video Card GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor OCZ Reaper HPC 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W Power Supply Seagate Barracuda ES.2 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T Antec Nine Hundred Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window Looks good. The Gigabyte EP35-xxxx are the same as the P35 ones, except they save more energy. For more info, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte_Technology Anyhow, it will definitely work, check the OSx86 wiki at http://wiki.osx86project.org I'm not sure about the Quadro... it seems that the Geforce cards using the same core etc are much cheaper. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-828394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacPub Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 i dont know the full details but the difference between geforece and quadro is that the quadro is specifically made for rendering large amounts of data, not gaming, and vice vera. edit: Also quick question about the ep35 board....the ds3r board has BOTH ddr2 AND ddr3, it has 4 ddr2 and then 2 ddr3 slots, does that i mean i can put a total of 12gb in my system or is it just 4gb ddr3 OR 8gb drr2? forgive me if this is a stupid question, i'v never heard of 2 different type of ram being a on a mobo before. edit: if not the fx1500 how about the GeForce GTX 280? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116692-modeling-and-animation-rendering-on-hackintosh/#findComment-828890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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