Can someone point me in the right direction?

[Prophecy.]

I have a new laptop coming in tomorrow and it has vista pre-installed and I want to dual-boot Leopard and vista. I have absolutely no idea how to do this, or even install leopard for that matter.

 

So far I have downloaded kalyway 10.5.2 for amd

 

my computer specs are in my sig.

 

if you can help me by telling me what kernels i need and everything as well as how to dual-boot and how to install leopard i would greatly appreciate it

[Wayfarer247]

Once getting the laptop, reformat it. I prefer to use Gparted to format and edit my partitions, makes it very easy. Also, make sure you have a Vista Installation DVD, sometimes they don't come with the computer. If you don't have one, get one. Either make a recovering DVD, or download one on BT. Then test them both out to make sure they work. Partition your HD anyway you want, but generally Vista is only happy on the First HD, or the first partition. Install VIsta first always. You will have to have a bootloader, If you have Vista, I have heard that EasyBCD should do the trick. You can double check if your HD is "supported" on the wiki. Then find a tutorial to help you, Finally, ask questions here, but make sure you provide us with plenty of information so we can really help you. There is never a stupid question, just a pointless one. And, finally finally, be patient, and don't give up. Plenty of time to mess with your new comp - you want to have fun with it.

 

Good Luck.

[Prophecy.]

Once getting the laptop, reformat it. I prefer to use Gparted to format and edit my partitions, makes it very easy. Also, make sure you have a Vista Installation DVD, sometimes they don't come with the computer. If you don't have one, get one. Either make a recovering DVD, or download one on BT. Then test them both out to make sure they work. Partition your HD anyway you want, but generally Vista is only happy on the First HD, or the first partition. Install VIsta first always. You will have to have a bootloader, If you have Vista, I have heard that EasyBCD should do the trick. You can double check if your HD is "supported" on the wiki. Then find a tutorial to help you, Finally, ask questions here, but make sure you provide us with plenty of information so we can really help you. There is never a stupid question, just a pointless one. And, finally finally, be patient, and don't give up. Plenty of time to mess with your new comp - you want to have fun with it.

 

Good Luck.

My computer isn't on that compatibility list, does that mean it can't be done or it hasn't been tried? Also, suppose I just wanted to run leopard and not vista could I skip all the steps that include anything with vista and partitioning? Also, thanks for the help.

[teknojunkie]

it will work but not with original kernel since it is AMD.

[Wayfarer247]

Don't worry, many compuers aren't on that list. I didn't even bother checking the list before I installed on my laptop (specs in sig). On my comp, everything works but Wireless. Which actually sucks. So I would say, try installing Leopard, and see how much works. You can generally get Video, and sound working no matter what. Network seems to be a hit or miss though. So see what works, and if you can live with it, then awesome. If not, then you may have to put another OS onto your comp. Linux is always an option!!

[Prophecy.]

Don't worry, many compuers aren't on that list. I didn't even bother checking the list before I installed on my laptop (specs in sig). On my comp, everything works but Wireless. Which actually sucks. So I would say, try installing Leopard, and see how much works. You can generally get Video, and sound working no matter what. Network seems to be a hit or miss though. So see what works, and if you can live with it, then awesome. If not, then you may have to put another OS onto your comp. Linux is always an option!!

 

OK.. sorry for all the questions but I don't want $700 to go to waste

 

1. Is there a large risk that my brand new computer will break if something goes wrong?

2. Is it essential that I re-install vista, I can't just leave the version thats already on it?

3. Lets say after installing I find out that wireless or something doesn't work, can I go back and try different kernels or would I have to start this whole process over again?

4.The guy who said it won't work with the original kernel because its AMD: My download of kalyway is the AMD/Intel version, does what you said still apply?

[Wayfarer247]

1: Not a chance. Why I personally love messing with my computer, it can always be brought back to a bootable state. Worse comes to worse, you install Vista to the entire thing. But, pfft, who wants that? But again, no, you can never harm your computer by install OS's. You may just lose all data on it.

 

2: I say reinstall, because every pre-built computer I have found, comes with bloatware, useless {censored}, and probably 4 partitions. Disgusting. Makes me puke. I have fixed 3 comps like that. I say reinstall Vista just to clear off everything stupid, and give you a clean OS that you can work with. Something that you will enjoy, and be able to use. Do you have to? Probably not - but with OS's, you never know.

 

3: If you find something that doesn't work, but the actualy system still works, you don't have to do a new reinstall. You can work in the OS and add fixes/drivers. For example, when I install leopard on my computer, I don't have sound, or the proper resolution. The two fixes in my sig are patches which you install straight to OS X, which fix both of those. So for most issues, you won't have to reinstall.

 

4: Not sure what you are refering to, I seem to have said a lot. But in general, if you have an AMD DvD (Which you do) it should install fine, assuming you select the correct package/kernel. If you system doesn't boot (at all, or freezes) then give us info as to where it stops loading, and we will see if we can help you out. For the first myriad installs, boot with the tag "-v" without quotes. This enters you into Verbose mode, and gives you a text output. Makes it easy to find out what is wrong. Do this for the DVD install too. Hit f8 for more options during startup to enter "-v". I am sure you will figure it out.

[cgsheen]

Sorry, I wouldn't buy an AMD laptop with the expectation of running OSx86 on it.... Not unless someone already had that EXACT model and completely verified what worked and what didn't.

 

Installing OSx86 on AMD machines is hit-or-miss at best. I've been successful on 3 Desktop machines out of 8 I've tried. With Desktops you can add or subtract hardware to some extent. You can't do that with a laptop - it's got what it's got.

 

You're more likely to have success with an Intel "core" laptop, and personally I'd STILL find one that someone else has working properly with all the hardware features you need, supported. Otherwise you'll need to know - down to the chipsets used - exactly what's in that Toshiba to see if it's modem, wifi, LAN adapter, USB controller, 1394a controller, card bus controller, memory card slot controller, sound codec, IGP, motherboard northbridge & southbridge, PMU (power management - battery), touchpad, will be supported by some release of OSX...

[Wayfarer247]

Hit or miss.... *sigh* how true. However Prophecy, it can't hurt to try. And if it works, add to the wiki! Everything I said still applies.

[Prophecy.]

1: Not a chance. Why I personally love messing with my computer, it can always be brought back to a bootable state. Worse comes to worse, you install Vista to the entire thing. But, pfft, who wants that? But again, no, you can never harm your computer by install OS's. You may just lose all data on it.

 

2: I say reinstall, because every pre-built computer I have found, comes with bloatware, useless {censored}, and probably 4 partitions. Disgusting. Makes me puke. I have fixed 3 comps like that. I say reinstall Vista just to clear off everything stupid, and give you a clean OS that you can work with. Something that you will enjoy, and be able to use. Do you have to? Probably not - but with OS's, you never know.

 

3: If you find something that doesn't work, but the actualy system still works, you don't have to do a new reinstall. You can work in the OS and add fixes/drivers. For example, when I install leopard on my computer, I don't have sound, or the proper resolution. The two fixes in my sig are patches which you install straight to OS X, which fix both of those. So for most issues, you won't have to reinstall.

 

4: Not sure what you are refering to, I seem to have said a lot. But in general, if you have an AMD DvD (Which you do) it should install fine, assuming you select the correct package/kernel. If you system doesn't boot (at all, or freezes) then give us info as to where it stops loading, and we will see if we can help you out. For the first myriad installs, boot with the tag "-v" without quotes. This enters you into Verbose mode, and gives you a text output. Makes it easy to find out what is wrong. Do this for the DVD install too. Hit f8 for more options during startup to enter "-v". I am sure you will figure it out.

 

#4 wasn't directed towards you but thanks for all of your answers and help. I'm going to find a download of vista right now..

[Prophecy.]

Sorry just one more question before I burn this to a DVD:

 

What do I put in the ADD_KEXT_TO_DVD folder? Do I have to add all the kexts that match my system specifications or does kalyway have it so I can just choose out of a variety?