Reduce gas using water?

[killbot1000]

Alright, got it now. I woke up from a nap before I read your post and didn't fully grasp the wording.

 

And yea it definitely doesn't have to be tied in with any of that. But killbot was talking about passing legislation for auto companies to require cars to have better MPG. And I doubt that they'll do that. But what you are saying about the next 'Google' (like the analogy) thinking up something, I completely agree with that. We need some little group that are pissed off at gas to think up a way to go places without spending half their paycheck on their car.

 

Already working on it. If I get this working, I will spread this like wildfire.

[cain.]

You are emitting too much CO2. Al Gore doesn't like that. You have to make your 55 mpg car capable of 90 mpg. Now, go scoot around on your 3hp go-cart.

 

Huh? Why do I have the image of a 97 Ford Ranger-driver seeing lots of backlights of German cars with better maxspeed, similar hp and far better handling in my mind? ;P

[JonTheSavage]

Already working on it. If I get this working, I will spread this like wildfire.

 

No, that t ype of legislation would cause riots, and the deaths of hundreds of congress members. Not good.

 

But yes, HHO should be a viable alternative since water is free.

 

Huh? Why do I have the image of a 97 Ford Ranger-driver seeing lots of backlights of German cars with better maxspeed, similar hp and far better handling in my mind? ;P

 

 

My other cars. The DMC is stock. The Tib is not.

 

 

Oh yea, you think you can outrun mine.

 

EDIT: A Ford Ranger is a Jap truck, they used be called a "Mazda".

[Riana]

Hey all, I'm new to this forum and hope to get some information on "run water on car tech" . I' ve read that someone is trying out the plan to see if it works. I've been reading on these website all selling the water conversion kit/e-book, I just wonder if it really do work.

Please do keep us posted if you have success.

[Sabr]

The amount of spelling mistakes on that website is just ridiculous...

[killbot1000]

No, that t ype of legislation would cause riots, and the deaths of hundreds of congress members. Not good.

It would not cause riots. Congress passes laws to require auto manufacturers to get the average mpg of their fleet to go up by 1-2 mpg per year (baby steps), this will give them an incentive to actually produce more efficient vehicles. When the regulations start to get too tough to get a gasoline engine at that efficiency, they will slowly move to electric, etc. I am not talking about overnight legislation to increase mpg by 20 or so, I am merely advocating baby steps in the right direction, right now we have a lot of talk but say nothing. This would at least get us moving in the right direction without having to put any money in anything at all. The automakers can make cars 1mpg better every single year without much headache, they should already be doing this on their own, since their not, I propose legislation along these lines.

 

Also, Maybe I was unclear with my simple request. I want to see pictures of the technology IN YOUR TRUCK ENGINE COMPARTMENT. I will consider your claims of installation illegitimate until some proof is presented. Also, have a picture of a note or a sign IN THE PICTURE with your screen name on it. Thank You!

 

PS: Still building mine, I just need to get the nylon threaded rod in the mail, should be a few days.

 

PPS: Careful with that salt, you will produce chlorine gas in addition to hydrogen and oxygen. Go to a hardware store and pick up some sodium hydroxide (lye) instead, the byproducts will only be hydrogen/oxygen, things which the electrolyzer makes anyway, and which don't harm the environment.

[killbot1000]

Still waiting on those real pictures JonTheSavage

[Paranoid Marvin]

Although this system is laughable, I took a bit more time to look at it and fully understand it.

 

In a perfect system, ie, no losses of energy at all, the energy required to make the HHO would be exactly equal to the energy released in burning the gas.

That would mean that the energy saved by by reducing gas consumption would be completely cancelled out by the energy needed to recharge your battery.

 

In the real world, this is likely to be much, much more. The whole HHO system would actually end up requiring more energy to be put into the system to compensate for the energy lost through electrolysis.

 

Water is not a very good fuel at all, because it is a substance in an already low enthalpy state. You have to give it more energy to split it into products that have higher enthalpy states, ie, pure hydrogen and oxygen or HHO. Therefore, you need to give it more energy before you can get any energy out of it, and assuming an impossible 100% efficiency, the energy you get out is the energy you put it.

 

Unless you've found a way to somehow break the conservation of energy laws, this device will not save fuel.

[brainbone]

Unless you've found a way to somehow break the conservation of energy laws, this device will not save fuel.

 

The idea is that the HHO helps use some of the 70% wasted fuel, allowing you to run the engine more lean. In reality, water vapor produced by the HHO generator is the likely culprit for any increase in MPG. If you remove the water vapor from HHO generators, you receive no increase in MPG. Look into water injectors. Mainly used for increased performance, but can be used for increased fuel economy.