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i have a package on the iDeneb 10.5.4 v1.1 disk.
Is that the same thing. In the video folder, x1300-X1500 package installer. Is that an injector/kext file.

should i just use the command to back up and remove all the ATI stuff in my extensions folder now, then put all this package (from the installer) back in, redo my permissions, restart and do you think then, i will get my QE/CI. I have CI now and like i said my Xbench shows a value for quartz graphics. So i think its there i may have just messed it.
I thought i had a radeon HD 2400 but that was in my other system. But i have tried the originals from my timemachine many times, with no luck.

I have NatitX1300.kext and also have a kext called natit.kext as well as ATIRadeonX2000.kext, plus the ATIRadeonX1000.kext.

do i have too many versions in my extensions folder.

I can find the remove ATI command from my bookmarks.

Can you tell me if i am going in the right direction. I have rebooted and reinstalled my kext files so many times.

Thanx bibendum

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This post is being unstickied due to complaints about missing files. If the files from the original post are re-uploaded then someone PM me and I will re-sticky it.

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Ok, after experiencing the frustration that is setting up the Radeon 7500 to work properly, I present this howto. As far as I know, there is no single how to that covers every little thing you need to do to get both OpenGL and Quartz Extreme working fully, but now you can accomplish this as I did!

1. First, you need to download my file pack from this post. Extract it as-is on the desktop somewhere.

2. Open a terminal.

3. Do this: sudo rm -r /System/Library/Extensions/ATI*
This removes the old drivers.

4. Drag and drop all the files from my Extensions folder you just downloaded into yours, authenticating when prompted.

5. Hit the back button in the finder, and open the Frameworks folder.

6. do this in the terminal: sudo rm -r /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL*

7. Drag and drop the new OpenGL file into Extensions.

8. Now it gets tricky: You need to duplicate some of the instructions from the original 7500 pack I got these files from (unfortuately, the original pack's instructions are incomplete)

"Instructions:

1. Run the Installer Package. Do NOT reboot yet.
2. Open Terminal and enter in the following

ioreg -l

1. Locate AGP in the output. It will most likely be listed as AGP@1, but your machine may differ. You will see "compatible" = <"pcixxxx,xxxx","pciclass,xxxxxx">

The first set is the item you should note.
Enter the following at Terminal:

sudo nano /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext

Locate:

<key>IONameMatch</key>
<array>
<string>pci8086,2561</string>
</array>

Change this to reflect the information you got above.

cntrl-o, enter, cntrl-x

Now enter the following at the Terminal prompt:

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext
sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext

Now enter the following at the Terminal:

sudo nano /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist

Add the following in the middle somewhere after the Kernel key, but before a Quiet Boot or Boot Graphics key.

<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string>-f</string>

cntrl-o, enter, cntrl-x

Now open Disk Utility to be safe (this stepp is not required, but highly recommended) and run Repair Permissions on your disk."

9. Now that you've done all that, there' still one more step, which I learned from 7500-working.doc, found on these forums.

"First, open up a terminal session and go to the location of those temporay files, and tweak the contents of the AGPGART package. Go to AGPGART.kext/Contents/Info.plist and edit it as root. (sudo nano Info.plist) ??We want the kernel to recognize the 855PM GART interface as the AGP GART. ?Look for the line beneath IONameMatch that reads pci8086,2561. It should now be pci8086,3341. (Thinkpad T30 or Dell C640 users with the i845MP should use pci8086,1a31 instead.??Save it. (Use Ctrl-X, y to save and exit)"

Since I have a latitude 640, I used the one that step reccomended. Your mileage may vary.

Once all this jazz is taken care of, it's time to make doubly sure the permissions are right.

10. Do this in terminal:

cd /System/Library/Extensions/
sudo chown -R root:wheel *.kext?sudo chmod -R 755 *.kext?sudo chown -R root:wheel *.plugin?sudo chmod -R 755 *.plugin
cd /System/Library/Frameworks/?sudo chown -R root:wheel OpenGL.Framework?sudo chmod -R 755 OpenGL.Framework

Ok, cross your fingers, and reboot!


hello! thanks for all the help, but im stuck...i feel like a noob..but im stuck here:

sudo nano /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext

Locate:

<key>IONameMatch</key>
<array>
<string>pci8086,2561</string>
</array>

Change this to reflect the information you got above.

cntrl-o, enter, cntrl-x

i dont know how to "locate' the <key> etc once im in nano :-\

thanks!

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Any one have the files. I would like to try this fix because that's the last thing missing from my HacBook.

Thanks

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Any one have the files. I would like to try this fix because that's the last thing missing from my HacBook.

Thanks


Yep, same here finished going thru my Thinkpad R50 and only things missing are OpenGL/QE for it's Radeon Mobility 7500.

if someone could put up a working tutorial it would be great.

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Any one have the files. I would like to try this fix because that's the last thing missing from my HacBook.

Thanks


Is this it? The ati 7500 pack is located here:
http://www.boboki.co...I_7500_Pack.dmg

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well i finally got the pack, because this one was missing some files, and after i did everyting and rebooted, it still says quartz extreme not supported =( I use kalyway 10.5.1, IBM thinkpad t42, radeon 7500 can someone help?

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body { background: #FFFFFF; margin: 0px; padding: 4px; font-family: Verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; } okay guys, as far as i know, ati radeon 7500 is not supported on leopard... however, since i got my hands on the pack and guide, and somehow understood some confusing steps mentioned, i will be trying it for a last time on a leopard, and if it works, me and u guys will be happy, and i will then post a new guide for that, if not, i will also try it on tiger, and then see what will happen, and then post u guys an update...

wish me luck

OZ

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Awesome! Good luck!

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This afternoon, i'll give a try on my (perhaps future) HackBook x31 :)

I'll give reply on this thread to let you know guys if this M6C-16h (formerly ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 with its 16Mb of VRAM) works with Leopard :thumbsup_anim:

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Hi guys !

For the moment, i have still no luck with the radeon M6C-16H (Mobility Radeon 7000) with its poor 16MB. (Which are shown as 15MB in the darwin boot ... stranges things ...)
I installed AGPgart (v2.7.1) and Natit which seems to detect the card but no luck, i get a blackscreen and nothing more when it changes resolution before going to the loginApplication.

Strange, but i feel some sort of gain. I hope i will get a fix to this blackscreen thing.
I'll keep you informed ;)

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I'm back ... and sorry guys, i have tried everything i could but i ended with no luck.
I think the fact that Leopard is working under OpenGL 2.0 is the problem + the fact that the video card has less than 32Mb ...

-> AGPgart v2.7.1 : works well and enables fast writes throught AGP. It recognizes the card : 1002:4c59 (ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 // IBM M6C-16H)
-> Natit Universal : seems to detect the card as it should (the Info.plist include the card as "M6" // "Mobility Radeon". But when used, ends with black screen before LoginApplication shows up.(even if i remove AGPgart)
-> Callisto b008 : Do the same as Natit Universal ... black screen just before the LoginApplication. (same thing if AGPgart is removed)
-> OpenGL.framework (form Tiger : v1.4) : Tried replacing and it has done the same result when Natit or Callisto loads.
If i remove Callisto or Natit, Leopard loads up LoginApplication but when i type my password and validate, it stays blocked just before showing up Finder.

So ... i don't know what to do ... perhaps buying another Laptop :P ... or just buying a MacBook 13" aluminium :D ...
But if i do so, i wouldn't have anymore the spirit of moding kexts :D
Of course ... a PC that has mac is a revolutionnary thing ! but if we take the reverse situation : a mac with windows ... it's just a good joke :censored2:

See ya !

PS : idumych or ozeinab87 ... if you've got some more luck than me or if you're more dev than me (as i'm not) let us know !!!

PS2 : perhaps there is no way of getting this card to work under Leopard. It appears that Apple made some drastic changes from Tiger to Leopard ...

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Can someone post the package? The one listed has some missing file....

I dunno how but I manage to enable the QE.... still has no CI though.. as far as I know that Radeon Mobility 7500 doesn't support OpenGL shader therefore shouldn't be able to get CI to work(and I hope I'm wrong)

Any update from the other folks?

Cheers
Andy


I'm running ideneb v1.4 Leopard 10.5.6 on Thinkpad T42 2373-4WU w/Radeon 7500 (If you need to know how I install ideneb v1.4 on T42... check wiki osx86 on 10.5.6 and follow the instruction there on how to install ideneb on T42. A bit tricky but I did it.) edited : Link to install ideneb v1.4

P.S. very important... just so y'all who is using thinkpad T42, go to lenovo link to find out exactly what kind of hardware you have in your T42. Not all the T42 has the same wifi, graphic and etcs.

There are 2373 and 2374 revision and many sub revision for T42.

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Maybe someone can help with installing IPC 10.5.6 on T41 so far I have come very far in putting the system together.
The only problem, i can not not solve is QE working with Radeon 7500
I already try everything I found on the forum but no success.



Please help!

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s55ac: Maybe someone can help with installing IPC 10.5.6 on T41 so far I have come very far in putting the system together.
The only problem, i can not not solve is QE working with Radeon 7500
I already try everything I found on the forum but no success.


I don't want to sound rude or anything, but is there a chance that you haven't read the posts of this thread, especially what simkard wrote?
There's no chance of getting QE enabled with Leopard on any Radeon 7500 driven system. This Radeon is too old and doesn't support OpenGL 2.0. But the OpenGL framework in Leopard relies on 2.0 and doesn't support 1.1 anymore.

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Thanks for the the reply, unfortunately I am back on xp.




I don't want to sound rude or anything, but is there a chance that you haven't read the posts of this thread, especially what simkard wrote?
There's no chance of getting QE enabled with Leopard on any Radeon 7500 driven system. This Radeon is too old and doesn't support OpenGL 2.0. But the OpenGL framework in Leopard relies on 2.0 and doesn't support 1.1 anymore.



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Sorry to bump such an old thread - but did anyone get this working on Leopard? An entry for IBM T42 in the wiki for 10.5.6 implies that it does....

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Maybe someone can help with installing IPC 10.5.6 on T41 so far I have come very far in putting the system together.
The only problem, i can not not solve is QE working with Radeon 7500
I already try everything I found on the forum but no success.



Please help!


radeon 7500 supports opengl 1.3 , to run quartz on 10.5.x as i know we need video card with opengl 2.0
Can anybody confirm that ?

Sorry to bump such an old thread - but did anyone get this working on Leopard? An entry for IBM T42 in the wiki for 10.5.6 implies that it does....


radeon 7500 supports opengl 1.3 , to run quartz on 10.5.x as i know we need video card with opengl 2.0
Can anybody confirm that ?

Sorry to bump such an old thread - but did anyone get this working on Leopard? An entry for IBM T42 in the wiki for 10.5.6 implies that it does....


radeon 7500 supports opengl 1.3 , to run quartz on 10.5.x as i know we need video card with opengl 2.0
Can anybody confirm that ?

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sorry to bumb but i really need the files! Please pm me or post this on the fourms

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sorry to bumb but i really need the files! Please pm me or post this on the fourms


No problem, send me your Adress and i send you the package. Cause i don't know how to use the uploaders.


But for the facts: the JAS compilation 10.4.8 is the best for T40 or R40, everything is working + QE! Tiger, but in Leopard.

So what have I done:

- Atkos V7 on T40, everything is working except QE !!!
- install 7500 driver package
- install kext's tweaked for my card
- install callisto B006
- and the radeon tool.

And now:
Radeon Mobility 7500:

Chipsatz-Modell: Radeon Mobility 7500
Typ: Monitor
Bus: AGP
VRAM (gesamt): 32 MB
Hersteller: ATI (0x1002)
Geräte-ID: 0x4c57
Versions-ID: 0x0000
Monitore:
Farb-LCD:
Auflösung: 1024 x 768 @ 60 Hz
Farbtiefe: 32-Bit Farbe
Core Image: Software
Hauptmonitor: Ja
Synchronisierung: Aus
Eingeschaltet: Ja
Quartz Extreme: Nicht unterstützt
QuartzGL: Unterstützt


So in this fact, my loading looks like this:
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool:Initializing
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool:Probing
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: CallistoHAL Initialized!
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool iomemory length: 0x10000 @ 0xc0120000
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool virt: 0x3586d000 physical: 0xc0120000
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool IRQ: 11, Vendor ID: 1002, Product ID: 4c57
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool:Starting
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: radeonTool:PowerManagement setting power state:1
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Reading RADEON_LVDS_GEN_CNTL
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: The radeon backlight looks on
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: writing RADEON_LVDS_GEN_CNTL (2d0) -> 000dffa1
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Reading RADEON_DAC_CNTL
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: The radeon external DAC looks on
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: writing RADEON_DAC_CNTL (58) -> ff604102
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: omni's ATI Driver&FrameBuffer, build 006, 20-May-2006
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Model Radeon Mobility 7500 (rs200)
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: MMIO range@0x18 (c0120000) mapped to kernel virtual address 0x35892000
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: 32 MB DDR found on 64 bit wide bus
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: VRAM range@0x10 (e0000000:02000000)
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Found ROM @0xc0000
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Legacy ATI BIOS detected
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: PLL values from Legacy BIOS: ref_clk=2700, ref_div=12, xclk=18300, min_freq=12000, max_freq=35000
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Port[0] DDC: DDC_DVI, DAC: TVDAC, TMDS: Internal, Connector: DVI-D
Jan 6 13:28:25 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Port[1] DDC: DDC_VGA, DAC: Primary, TMDS: Unknown, Connector: CRT
Jan 6 13:28:26 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Non-DDC laptop panel detected
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Found Monitor: LCD
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: panel ID string: 1024x768
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: detected LVDS panel size from BIOS: 1024x768
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: BIOS provided dividers will be used
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Default panel mode: 1024x768, dot clock: 6500
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: Flat Panel values:
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Xres: 1024, Yres: 768, isValid: 1, dotclock: 6500
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: HOver_plus: 16, HSync_width: 136, Hblank: 320
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: VOver_plus: 2, VSync_width: 6, Vblank: 38
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: HAct_high: 1, VAct_high: 1, interlaced: 0
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: pwr_delay: 1000, use_bios_dividers: 1
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: ref_div: 6, post_div: 2, fb_div: 58
Jan 6 13:28:27 jean-picards-macbook-air kernel[0]: Callisto: done with Radeon Mobility 7500


That's all what i can do. I have tried everything what i know, but i'm not a programmer.
But i think it is possible to enable the QE.
I'm nearly to the answer!

So try to help me!
How can i change the open GL to 1.3?
or
how can i change the QE enable processes?

P.S. Perhaps someone can use my data!





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