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[JamesLittler]

you could try booting to safe mode before you trash your install.

-F -v -f -x GraphicsEnabler=No npci=0x2000

[iFIRE]

sniper, if this is very dificult for you try this flag: -x -v -f rd=disk1s1 GraphicsEnabler=No

[sniper9911]

i tried to boot without chameleon plist and i reached desktop
the reason why i am trashing my installation is that i installed at least a dozen of kexts and non of them worked for me and i need a vanilla installation to begin the dsdt way
synaptics touch pad kext caused too much panics and i needed to do the rebuild cache the ifire way
also tried voodoops2 and caused problems also
sdhc also not working

also this time i am going to try the GUID partioning on my laptop (yes real zero this time......... no more windows safe-net !!)
now i am going to boot from usb and then go to disk utilities and repartition my internal hdd
the question is which operating system should i start installing first (i plan to triple boot ==> windows 7 oem , windows 7 ultimate , mac os x mountain lion )
help me please !!

[JamesLittler]

Install OS X first.
When partitioning, partition as GUID, then create 3 partitions. 1 HFS+ and 2 FAT32.

Why are you installing 2 versions of windows 7? What is the point?

[sniper9911]

the point is i need windows 7 ready for gaming only ==> no antivirus, no {censored} problems , no freaking programs , ONLY intall drivers and direct x then games
the other installation is for full programs (cad + office + internet + freaking antivirus + its OEM (for Laptop warranty))
I remember last time doing this that i was stuck a the point that my hdd became Hybird GPT not GUID and that was a big problem (Yes or not ??)
any way this is what i am planing to do
is this partitioning style ok or need more adjustments
mac os x ML  with  30gb
mac os backup   30gb
mac os extra space 50 gb
windows 7 OEM 75 gb
windows 7 ultimate 40 gb
samsung_rec 25gb
all extra space is about 711 gb

i am doing the backup right now if any ideas feel free to put in to discuss ..

[sniper9911]

when I said hybird I do remember that my installation partitioning was like this in mac os disk utility
I got to pick for 5 partitions and I made the first one mac os jouraled and others were ms-dos cheme
any way when I installed windows and saw how my hdd was partitioned as follows :

efi 200mb
mac os x
another unlocated space 128mb
ms-dos partitions

my real question is why does the unlocated space was there I didn't tell mac os x to do it ?? can I partition my disk the way I want but without the unlocated space while mixing up those operating systems

keep in mind while answering me that I am a windows user first then a mac user not the other way

waiting for someone with the real answer ...

[iFIRE]

sniper, it can not work, you are crazy   this not windows if this works, Iam vote you for President!!!!!

[sniper9911]

could you say why it cannot work ??

[sniper9911]

Have you seen this before ??
some guy did it with mountain lion and he has dual boot with windows 7 with windows boot loader !!
tutorial :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzCFh3Ld88A
files :
www.mediafire.com/?m0mdqgqymyj

so I think this is what I'm gonna do
install windows 7 oem
install windows 7 ultimate from it
install mac os x ML
finally I will use his files to make it work !!

[JamesLittler]

Install ML,
Install Windows Ultimate,
Resync partition table using Ubuntu
Use Chameleon to boot

Forget about EasyBCD

Your partition table will be very fragile and will no doubt break at some point requiring you to play with diskpart in order to get windows booting again.
Hybrids are a particularly bad idea, I use one for a time machine disk which has windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10....they are a pain!
I don't think windows even boots anymore and I really can't be bothered to fix it. I haven't used it in over a year anyway so I really don't care.

I still don't see the need for 2 windows installations...just install your programs and games on the same windows partition, where is the problem in that?
Installing another OS can't void your warranty surely...that would be a pretty draconian warranty.

I recently took a laptop in to have the bottom half of the case replaced under warranty because the way the wifi antenna had been run had caused the casing to crack (ran over the top of the HDD).
The guys at the service dept didn't pay a blind bit of notice as to which OS I had installed.

Why have Mac OS Extra space? Just make the ML partition bigger!
There just seems to be no logic to this!

[sniper9911]

well if you can bare with me i could explain to you my bizarre needs but i am pretty sure about what i am going to do !!
the other windows installation is for the upcoming windows 8 reserved by another installation for windows 7 ultimate
Mac os Extra space is for storing purpose cause i am a formataholic !! (i always separate my files and games on another partition so when i format i loose nothing !!)
and by the way mr.james what if i am going to boot from windows boot loader ?? why its a bad idea
Eventually the laptop came with windows 7 (to be used with it cause its an oem one)
i dont know about your country and how do they handle it but in my country you need to make it as stock as possible when you need to fix it under warranty !!

well let me know if any more adeas comes to you guys
maybe you are right but i would like to do it my way one more time even if i break it :DX

i am going the GUID way with partitioning my disk so i will boot usb ML installer then dik utility the i will partition all of the mac os journaled then i will boot paragon hdd manager then reformat what parts i want to ntfs

one thing come to my mind :
How can i copy and delete from an ntfs partition with ML
i tried paragon ntfs but i dont know how to make it work !!
ML does see my partitions but i do need to write some files every now and then

[sniper9911]

I had a biziare seen here when I did the partitioning the apple way
it seems to make a 128mb of unlocatsd space between every partition and the another even if that partition is not used for booting so I retuned to my paragon hdd manager and deleted every partition except for the EFI partition and did the hole thing one more time
this time I got the following working
windows 7 home premuim uefi dvd
then I installed
windows 7 ultimate (I booted the mensioned disk but I failed so I did boot from my win7oem disk then I changed the disks at the start screen then installed normally ((I don't know why it did happen like that because the two windows' disks are 64bit but anyway this way worked for me so my guess would be its a win7 x64 efi disk not uefi )) and continued the installation
now I have dual booting ready from efi partition
now I booted from usb to ML installation and here I noticed two things :
I still have those freaking lines before the apple logo
boot encountered some problems ( or something similar )
pausing for 5 seconds
I will try to show you those lines in verbose mode so you can assist me better but the only way to do so is by making I video and thats what I shall do
the second problem was with apple legacy logo (I used to get the new white apple logo ) and I tried to delete the chameleon plist to remove the lines but I still get with the legacy logo (the gray apple )
is this because I am doing my usb bootable through vmware Image ?? or this is aint an issue ??

most noticed : when I am certain of my laptop and I do go to sleep the next day when I first boot my os x installation I do have a freez but when I reboot it goes off (I don't know the cause of this obviosly but I stop the verbose mode so apple greets me with the ((you need to shut down your pc bla bla bla ))
it does bothers me at first and I do hope to find a solution for it )
now the OSes are installed but the video I referred to was made on an mbr disk (dumped this way )
so I tried installing chameleon on osx and I rebooted to be greeted by windows booting (bummer)
I am trying to make chameleon my bootloader but it does not appear at all even though I saw efi to be mounted on my desktop and unmounted
I tried the disk managment in windows to know witch partition is the active one but it failed to do so
I tried paragon hdd manager also and I see no active function on my guid hdd
anyway it does let me to active a partition my mbr usb hdd normally
strange is the activate key for guid differs from the mbr activation ??
if so then tell me how to fix it please !!
currently booting to osx from my usb

[sniper9911]

so far this is what  I had accomplished regarding my triple boot system
it seems that windows 7 can boot perfectly fine from a guid partitioned disk on a uefi motherboard but I wasn't able to get mac os x with or without dual booting to boot from my hdd
I tried easy bcd 1.7.2 on my system and ended up doing repairing my boot manager via windows dvd oem disk
I even tried another easy bcd version 2.1.2 and was able to achieve a stable boot manager to boot both windowses but the mac os x setting was out of order
I checked its files in my c:\nst\boot\
and found two files
mac os x.mbr file
mac.iso image contains i386/boot0 and other files for booting and an extensions folder containing legacy kexts that doesn't work with my system

the filenames could be different because I don't remember  the exact filenames
ok anyway I have to ask about partitions order on my hdd
do I have to put mac os x partitions at the first of the hdd or whatever order I like ?? is it obligatory ??
second : mac os x guid partition booting didn't work with me even when I used three ways of installing the chameleon boot loader
I used the pkg installer : not working (worked on mbr when I activated the partition after installation)
I tried the manual munky way but it didn't work
I also tried the script v3 for doing the boot files but this one caused so much damage to the windows boot manager that I had to repair the hole installation
right now I am installing the mac os x ml on the first partition in the guid partitioned usb hdd disk (two partitions 40gb each) and I am planing on installing windows 7 with it on the second partition
by the way I cannot change the active partition on this guid theme and I don't know how to
I know that windows will take over the booting when I install it so I will have to try installing chameleon into the usb hdd before windows


if anyone have some ideas that help please don't hesitate.......I need help ........

[sniper9911]

I finished installing ml on my usb hdd but then I shutdown then powered on my pc and then entered the usb boot menu and chose my ml hdd not in verbose mode (normal boot) and the same (you need to restart your computer appeared so I did restart my machine and got it working
anyway I was curious enough to redo my installation in verbose mode and then boot in verbose mode and I was stuck at this point

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[eep357]

OSX on separate USB HDD? Disable sata drive with windows on it in bios to get past NTFS. 3 separate NTFS volumes showing there, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Gen Files.
What order OS's are on disk shouldn't matter, and OSX can boot fine from MBR or GUID, it just doesn't like to be installed to MBR, but can be cloned to MBR and work fine without having patched OSInstal.mpkg. Setting of active partition is only to let BIOS know which partition it should look to for bootloader, as long as Chameleon is loading and not getting BOOT 0 error, no need to worry about it.

[sniper9911]

another problem also
I restarted and did the reach the welcome screen
when I do need to set my internet activity ip on my ethernet I seem to reset the wizard and the welcome screen appears again
I did do this thing many times alwasy the same result and I can only continue my installation only when I choose this computer is not connected to the internet

I reached the desktop and bluetooth keyboard  greetz me and I do need to turn it off so I go to the bluetooth settings and remove the ticks in the two check boxes and I press ok but nothing happens
I think the bluetooth also stopped working eventhough in windows 7 it appears to work normally
I only did install lnx2mac kernel kext v0.90 to get my ethernet working and my ethernet works but bluetooth didn't .
help me please !!!!!!

my frien chameleon won't boot I only see the screen flickering and nothing happens
I can boot only from usb flash disk used to install the system

[eep357]

would need lot more info to even see if getting your bluetooth working is possible. To get past the it asking for one, it just needs any mouse and keyboard detected, so use USB one to set it up. Reinstall chameleon using the package installer to your OSX partition and copy the /Extra folder from your USB to your HD in same location at the root of the volume. It should then be able to boot from internal drive.

[sniper9911]

I tried installing chameleon pakage v2044 and still no boot from guid usb hdd
I must have to do something
something is missing
help please !!

[eep357]

Does the Chameleon come up and then your boot fails, or do you get BOOT 0 error or boot straight to Windows? If Chameleon at least loads...copy the /Extra folder from your USB to your HD in same location at the root of the volume. It should then be able to boot from internal drive.

[sniper9911]

no sorry it continues to boot from my sata drive
what should I do
I don't want to go back to mbr
I need gpt
I know how mbr works but I am in favor of gpt if applicable