Kalyway 10.5.1 installs on Thinkpad T40p - System will not run

[Jackson-4]

Hello Folks,

 

Let me begin by saying that I really appreciate this Forum - there is no other (to my knowledge) that is as good as this one. Great job to all the people who keep it organised and of course to the many members who keep it bursting at the seams.

 

God knows, I do not want to start a thread for something that has been done to death. My problem is that, although I have seen a couple of "success-reports" of Leopard being installed on an IBM Thinkpad T40, I have yet to find a thread (neither here nor in other Forums) that can help me with my specific problem, so please give me a couple of minutes and do be so kind as to refrain from the beloved "RTFM"-answers ;-) There are NO posts in this forum that fully describe how Leopard has been installed on a Thinkbook T40 or T40p, and there are none that give advice on how to handle my particular problem. So with no further a-do...

 

I have at my command one IBM Thinkpad T40p with the following specs:

• Intel Pentium-M processor (1.6 GHz) with 1 MB level 2 cache
  
• 2 DIMM slots, currently "stuffed" with 1 GB of RAM
  
• 14.1-inch active-matrix screen with 32 MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video controller
  
• Stereo speakers
  
• Internal Mini-PCI slot
  
• Two Type II PC Card (PCMCIA) slots
  
• Video connectivity; VGA port, S-Video out port
  
• Analog Devices AD1981A AC'97 SoundMAX Codec (Full-duplex)
  
• AC97 2.2 compatible
  
• Peripheral connectivity; two 480 Mbps USB 2.0 ports, parallel port, infrared 4-Mbps IrDA port, dock/port replicator port
  
• Network connectivity; Ethernet & V.92 56 kbps modem
  
• Intel 802.11b wireless LAN
  
• Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP Professional
  

(Let me know if I left anything out that is essential to this discussion)

 

And now here's the straigt dope on what steps I have taken and what the result was:

Installation Method

 

I opted for the Kalyway-Install ISO which can be found fairly easily if one looks in the right places. I may add here that I am a true Apple and Mac fan who has been around since the days of the Apple I. Downloading and playing around with these types of installs is a good way to see what OS X is all about, what it can do and what it cannot do. I own a Mac (among other computers - of course Windows and Linux boxes) and have legally obtained a copy of Leopard. I strongly recommend that anyone wishing to actually "use" the software should go out and buy a Mac and get the appropriate license...

 

Okay, done with the moral rantings - now on with the acutal problem at hand.

Step 1:

I obtained a copy of this file:

 

<exact spelling here> "KALYWAY_LEO_10.5.1intel_SSE2_SSE3"

 

on a Mac Mini Core 2 Duo running 10.5.2 (the "real" Leopard)

 

Step 2:

a)The file was then unzipped and burned to a DVD-R (yes I do mean 'minus' )

 

b ) The unzipped file was alternatively copied to a USB Harddrive and then burned to a DVD-R (same make as above) using an IBM Thinkpad T61 running Windows XP

Step 3:

The Mac-Burned Disc was inserted into the Thinkpad T40p. If no keys are pressed (like F8 for options) the Computer returns the following error message:

 

"System config file '/com.apple.Boot.plist' not found"

 

I then tried the PC-Burned DVD with the same result.

 

Step 4:

Inserted the Mac-Burned DVD and hardware-reset the system. At the start-up message, pressed [F8] and then booted the DVD using the command -x

Step 5:

During a good while of whirring and scratching sounds (possibly 10 - 15 minutes) the screen showed in order: the text-based Darwin-Message with "spining line", the grey screen with Apple-Logo and rotating symbol, then a short period (of only a few seconds) with a black background and mouse cursor, then finally the new Leopard-Wallpaper and window for language selection.

 

So far, so good - after choosing the language, the Mac-Burned DVD put the computer to sleep for a couple of hours. The DVD-Drive whirred maybe once every 30 minutes and the cursor was, for the duration, transformed into the spinning beach ball. I left it over night - the next morning I had the welcome screen but after clicking "continue" it was back to sleep (and not for me…)

Step 6:

Repeated steps 1-5 with the PC-Burned Disc and - success… After choosing a language, the rest of the installation proceeded with no further incident.

 

A) ­I opened Disk Utility and repartitioned the internal hard drive of the T40p (40 GB) and chose 'guid'

B ) A single partition was chosen, named and formatted as Mac File-System (first choice in Drop-Down)

C) back to Installation-Programme

 

Step 7:

After chosing the drive to install to (the now newly partitioned / formatted drive), I then opened the install-options dialog and chose:

 

A) Vanilla_Kernal ACPIPlatform (checked both boxes - Vanilla_Kernal and Vanilla_ACPI_fix)

B ) Checked the SSE2_System box

C) Checked GUID under "Bootloaders EFI"

 

No other boxes were checked in this dialog…

 

Step 8:

Returned to installer and let the machine do its magic. Installation time was somewhere around 30 Minutes.

 

Step 9:

After installation was completed, the Boot-Device was chosen and the DVD left in the drive until the computer physically restarted.

 

Step 10:

Allowed the computer to reboot completely, leaving the DVD in the drive as some others have suggested. The result was, that the computer booted from the install-DVD and wanted to do the intall-routine all over again… Not what I was looking for ;-)

 

Step 11:

Removed the DVD, performed a hardware reset and booted again - this time of course from the internal drive. The Darwin message comes, the Grey screen for about 10 seconds and then ---> then the computer just suddenly resets itself without warning. This goes on for an endless cycle until the computer is manually switched off…

Step 12:

DVD back in the drive and chose booting from HDD in BIOS. Result: the same as in Step 11. The computer never gets past the grey screen. After a few seconds of the grey screen it re-boots.

Step 13:

Tried booting with command-line arguments. -v, -x, 'vanilla', etc. Results: no difference. Even in Verbose-Mode it was not possible to see what the trouble was becaus a) the text flew by too fast and b ) it was all gone in an instant anyhow (after the computer suddenly re-boots).

 

QUESTIONS:

1) can this be the result of using a bad DVD?

I tried to answer this myself by repeating the entire experiment with the only "known" - the Disc. I used the very same Discs (yes, both the Mac-Burned and the PC-Burned) to install Leopard on an external USB-Hard Drive unsing the Thinkpad T61 as a "host". Now here's the thing: all went faster on the T61 and I can boot T61 from the external HDD and enjoy the wonders of Cupertino with very few "problems". The T61 has WiFi working, stuck in 1024x768 mode, no Quartz-Extreme, no sound. But that's not the issue…

 

2) Why does this DVD work on the T61 and not on the T40?

The T61 has a Core 2 Duo, 2 Gig of RAM, Nvidia graphics, etc. What else is different?

 

3) Is there anything I can do to get my installation working?

The Installation is apparently OK. Something must be wrong with the T40p, but what?

- Change something in the BIOS?

- Some command-line argument I've not yet heard of?

- Putting the drive in another (working) LEO-Box (Mac or x86) and editing something like one of the .plists?

 

Of course, there is the option of trying a different ISO. Of course I have thought of this and am in the process of acquision of said material. But which one should it be? Please no anwers which only suggest 10.4.8. My question ist how to get 10.5.1 running on the T40p.

 

4) What have others done differently which garnered success with the combination a) Kalyway b ) 10.5.1 c) Thinkpad T40p?

 

5) What am I doing wrong?

 

And last question:

Help?

 

Thank you for "listening" to my rantings and thank you in advance for any help which can be offered…

 

Cheers,

Jacko

[mattiL]

I seem to have the same type of machine as you.

Can't remember doing anything special to get it installed.

 

1. Downloaded kalyway 10.5.1 (SSE2 SSE3) and burned it on my Mac Mini G4 on DVD+RW

2. Boot the thinkpad from DVD

3. Install as MBR, SSE2, NOT SSE3 (Vanilla) Pentium M supports only SSE2

4. Mac disk name MacOSX, no spaces in the name, it seems to make problems with spaces

 

It took quite a long time to install.

 

Later I have updated with Kaly Combo updater, Netkas kernel 9.2 and Apple Software update (+ some hacks, kexts for radeon ..)

 

Change in BIOS to allow booting on battery, In BIOS, Config>>Speedstep >> "Mode for Battery" to Automatic (from Max Battery) (no more kernel panics

[Jackson-4]

Hello again,

 

now we're in business ;-) I tried re-installing with mbr, sse2 and no vanilla. It seemed to be working just fine, but in the middle of the actual install-procedure the computer blanked out and resetted itself. (is "resetted" even a word?)

 

Anyhows,

I tried booting from the internal hard drive and got a lot further than before. Still, the computer ended up showing the grey-in-grey apple logo for a long time before freezing.

 

Next Step:

I did the entire install-routine using my T61 and installing to an external USB-Drive; also selecting mbr, no vanilla, no extra drivers and sse2. Many thanks for this tip - my T40p now boots 10.5.1 and runs fairly quickly. Oh yeah - I also changed the BIOS as instructed above.

 

What's not working:

- No Quartz-Extreme

- No Sound, although the Mic is working perfectly *headscratch*

- No WiFi

 

Have not tested Modem or LAN

 

So I now have a "Thinkbook" which, for all intents and purposes, is running the world's sweetest OS without the befefits of the things that make it so "sexy"... No WiFi is kind of uninteresting on a Notebook, and no Support for the Graphics Card and Sound make it a "Dud" in terms of watching DVDs or running iTunes.

 

What now?

- will install Combo 10.5.2 (already have it and have tested it on the T61 - worked perfectly)

 

Question to mattiL:

- what Hacks have you installed and with what results?

- where did you get the Kexts and how did you install them?

- Does your "Thinkbook" now show DVDs or other Videos (Quicktime, AVI, DivX, etc.)?

- Did you get Sound working?

- Does Front Row run on your system?

 

Much obliged,

Jacko

[mattiL]

Question to mattiL:

- what Hacks have you installed and with what results?

A: Have been playing with the Radeon, trying to get QE/CI, no luck yet. Also tried to get the Atheros wifi working, ar5211, no luck.

 

- where did you get the Kexts and how did you install them?

A: Search and read in the forums. There is an app called kexthelper to help you. I don't use it, I do it by manually copying files to the right place and running some command to change owner, execution flag etc..

 

- Does your "Thinkbook" now show DVDs or other Videos (Quicktime, AVI, DivX, etc.)?

A: Not really tried, not very high on my list.

 

- Did you get Sound working?

A: Works right after install, did nothing extra. Tried to turn up the volume ?

 

- Does Front Row run on your system?

A: Don't know, not tested.

[Kwaaku]

Jackson

 

I have A thinkpad T42 2373 F1G and found kalyway a snap to install.

 

The only thing that threw me is how long it takes -about an hour.

 

When it "freezez" on install you want to leave it AT LEAST 1/2 hour to be sure.

 

It took me 3 tries to install because I kept thinking it had stopped. It hadnt -t was just EXTREMELY slow to install. Guessing it is to do with the ramdisk to install on 512k systems (like mine).

 

Best of Luck.

 

Just installed 10.4.11, need toi get the sound working -not recognized. Other than that -pleasantly surprised.

[Bogdan S]

i also have an ibm t40p ... i`ve tried: 10.4.8 to 10.5.2 ... the only one that doesn`t get stuck is 10.4.9 ... but it dosen`t boot .

I`m trying the kalyway 10.5.2 now ... i`ll let you know what i come up with

regards

[Bogdan S]

i also have an ibm t40p ... i`ve tried: 10.4.8 to 10.5.2 ... the only one that doesn`t get stuck is 10.4.9 ... but it dosen`t boot .

I`m trying the kalyway 10.5.2 now ... i`ll let you know what i come up with

regards

so far ... ... i have to wait like 45 minutes for the welcome screen ... and after i click the "continue" button, i get stuck with the animated cursor ...

[drho2004]

so far ... ... i have to wait like 45 minutes for the welcome screen ... and after i click the "continue" button, i get stuck with the animated cursor ...

 

 

hello, good thread!

 

somehow my 10.4.8 jas install got hosed on my t30..so im trying different osx incarnations to see whats the highest i can install on this ibm

 

so far:

 

none of the leopard dvd's boot completely. by that i mean, the system recognizes them and i get the 'hit any key to boot from dvd' i do, then it loads a few text, and system reboots itself back to bios flash screen

all tiger dvd's take me all the way to the actual installer tho. i have read that the dvd's im using are ss2 compliant, and have the 512mn fix (my system only has 512mb of ram) i was able to install kalyway 10.5.1 on my P4 dekstop hackintosh with no issues. the t30 i have is a p4 mobile,

 

any hints?

 

btw im using external usb dvd drive as the internal drive does not read burned media

[leminz]

Hello there

 

Hah it's been a while since you've posted. Have you given up by now or does it now work?

 

Well, regardless, I think that at one point I had the same problem as you.

 

You mentioned that you erased the disk and reformatted it as "Macintosh File-System"

 

The first time I installed, I formatted my disk simply as "test", just because it was a test version. When I found that everything was working in the OK, I decided to reinstall with a few minor tweaks and this time I named the disk "Macintosh HD"

 

But whats this? IT DIDN'T WORK! So, I cycled through my options, re-installed a few times (still under the name 'Macintosh HD')

 

and then it kinda hit me in the nose that maybe the darwin bootloader wasnt handling the 'Space' in between Macintosh and HD very well

 

So I reformatted ONCE MORE simply as "Macintosh"

 

&&&Voilá! it booted just as it had before! Try formatting your disk with no special characters or spaces. It could only help...

hope it works for ya buddy!

[snowbord]

T40 here, using xXx 10.5.6. Installs fine and easy. Using SSE2 kernel, MBR partitioning.

Trying to get QE/CI working. Sound doesn't work. Wi-fi doesn't work. Ethernet should be working.

 

Any help on enabling QE/ CI? I believe I have a 64MB x300.