ac3 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 i successfully installed kalyway leopard on my abit ip35-e. But my installation is very unstable. i have to restart my pc several times until it successfully boot. same when im installing it using kaly installer dvd. sometimes it will boot smoothly several times not. pls. help me. thanks in advance. my rig: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Abit IP35-E Geforce 7300GT LG DVDRW SATA 160gb Seagate SATA 80gb Seagate IDE 2gb DDR2 Team Elite Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Well I can't really help you determine the problem, but I am experiencing the exact same thing. Does anyone know what could be causing this problem? For my machine, I see the white background and the gray apple logo, and the circular bar below it starts to spin. Occasionally the system will boot and OSX will start running, but most times it just hangs, and I have to restart. I have a very different configuration from you, ac3, but there must be something similar about our systems for them to both behave in the same way. If it helps, I am using the iATKOS v. 1.0i install, although I have also used BrazilMAC's version and encountered the same issue. Also, once the system is up and running, the only device that doesn't work is the wireless card. -- One last thing that is different is that if I boot from the DVD into OSX setup, it works every time. It is only when I attempt to boot into the installed version on the hard disk that I have this problem.-- Intel D865PERL Motherboard Pentium 4 3.0 GHz with Hyperthreading disabled NVidia GeForce 6200 256AGP 2GB 333MHz RAM in 3 Modules Intel Integrated Audio Generic 10/100 Ethernet AirNET 3G Wireless Adapter Hitachi DeskStar 80GB S-ATA Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-592159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aktarerz Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 during boot, press f8. then type cpus=1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-592187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 aktarerz, I've tried many different things. And initially, I had to use cpus=1 to even get the install disk to start. Unfortunately, I don't think that is the problem. But thanks for the tip. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-593071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc90021 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 aktarerz, I've tried many different things. And initially, I had to use cpus=1 to even get the install disk to start. Unfortunately, I don't think that is the problem. But thanks for the tip. How far do you get? Is it only to the blue screen? If so, there is a fix for this... search these forums for "blue screen". Basically, your machine thinks that there's an external monitor attached, and you need to 'trick' the machine into thinking there isn't. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-593115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac3 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 @bc90021 mine had no blue screen just need several restarts to boot properly. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-593124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hi bc90021, I don't get to the blue screen either. As I mentioned in my first post, I can sometimes boot into OSX and everything works fine. But if the system doesn't boot, it will stop on the 'boot screen', which is a white background, a gray apple logo, and a gray spinning progress indicator below the apple logo. The progress indicator will stop spinning and freeze, and the system won't do anything else until I reboot. After several restarts, it works correctly.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-593170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc90021 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hi bc90021,I don't get to the blue screen either. As I mentioned in my first post, I can sometimes boot into OSX and everything works fine. But if the system doesn't boot, it will stop on the 'boot screen', which is a white background, a gray apple logo, and a gray spinning progress indicator below the apple logo. The progress indicator will stop spinning and freeze, and the system won't do anything else until I reboot. After several restarts, it works correctly.... @jar, @ac3, Try entering boot options... -v is for verbose, so you can see what's going on -f gets you into safe boot Try using -v and booting normally. That might give you an indication of what it's hanging on, and might help you diagnose the problem further. You can also try booting into Safe Boot and see if you can do that consistently. That might indicate a driver issue. Also, which kernel are you using? Vanilla, or toh? I had to use the toh one - I could never get the vanilla one to work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-593210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 bc90021, Thanks for the advice. I am having a problem using your suggested boot parameters with the installed os. I must have the DVD in the drive for the Bootloader to start correctly, and when I press F8, and enter parameters, they are applied to the DVD setup process, not to the installed OS on the hard disk. I have also tried installing the Darwin Bootloader from the iATKOS v.1.0i DVD, and this works correctly. The Darwin Bootloader starts without the DVD in the drive when you first turn on the computer. However, when I try to start the OS this way, I see a message for a fraction of a second that says, 'Can't find mach-kernel.' Then it immediately takes me back to the bootloader screen. I have also tried flagging the partition as active to attempt to force the OS to boot without the DVD, but it doesn't work either. The last thing I tried was editing com.apple.boot.plist and entering the switches on the kernel there, but it seems to ignore them. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-594115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 UPDATE - I was able to get the verbose mode to work correctly by setting -v in com.apple.boot.plist. This didn't work for me before for whatever reason, but it is now. The system freezes after the following message. DumpPanic[43] - Error getting a reference to OIDeviceTree;/options DirectoryService[45]; Launched version 5.0 ..........Login Window Application Started com-apple-driver-RTL8139 - Ethernet address 00;50;fc;04;41;11 This is the last thing displayed. Also, sorry about the semicolons, my shift key isn't working correctly on my pc. So does this mean my networking card is causing the problem? If I am able to boot into the system, the card shows up in the system profiler, and I have used it to connect to the Internet, so I know it works. Is there a special driver I can use that will solve this problem? Or is the error the 'DumpPanic' bit? Thanks again for the help. EDIT; After rebooting several times, I have noticed that the last message that is displayed is different every time. Sometimes it's after the ethernet bit, and sometimes, it's elsewhere. But it's always after the Login Window Application is started. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-594200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac3 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 what does "cpus=1" mean? will it disable my other 3 cores? because i think im getting a successful boot when i type this flag. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-599274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artix123 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I've experienced this problem, but it's slightly different. For mine, my computer gets very hot after using Leopard for a while. After that if I reboot Leopard, the screen will get stuck at the grey apple logo and the spinning progress thing does not show up. I need to wait until my computer cools down before it will boot. Hope anyone can help. BTW, I'm using iATKOS 1.0i. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-599280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 @ac3: I'm pretty sure that the cpus=1 flag makes the OS send instructions to only one processor. My system has hyper-threading, which means two processors to the system, but unless I set cpus=1 or disable hyper-threading in my BIOS, iATKOS 1.0i will not boot. So, my guess is that if you have a quad-core processor, then you should definitely use cpus=1, as you are, unless there is some version of OS X that can send instructions to your specific processor. @artix123: Sounds like you need better cooling for your system. If you're like me and can't afford it, why not try opening up your case and putting a nice little window fan next to the motherboard? You should take a look at your Activity Monitor and see what is using so much of your processor to make it so hot. Also, does your BIOS have temperature controls or fan controls? You might also try changing these settings to keep your system cooler. One last thing is what power management drivers are you using? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-599683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAROfConfusion Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Any new ideas? I'm still having the same problem all of the time!! Please, can anyone help? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/83300-need-several-restart-to-boot-properly/#findComment-633673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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