swag01 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I thought it would be good to start a thread for people to give their opinion on the two ways you can run Leopard. Since we already have 10.5.1 in both forms today we should hold the discussion to the latest code. To start off, I created a custom install dvd so I can choose between the two forms so I can easily switch back and forth. Here's what I see as advantages/disadvantages of each: EFI boot hack: -- (Disadvantage) My machine won't reboot or shutdown properly so in the end I have to push the reset button then power to shutdown. -- (Advantage) I applied 10.5.1 without a problem. -- (Advantage) I am using the core system except for a couple kexts: (dsmos.kext, IONetworkingFamily.kext and AppleSMBIOS.kext) Kernel Built off the kernel: -- (Disadvantage) Need a new kernel when apple releases a new version of the operating system. -- (Disadvantage) Need a few more kexts to run. -- (Advantage) The kernel supports older chipsets and cpus. -- (Advantage) The kernel seems "zippier" to me. -- (Advantage) I can reboot/shutdown without problem. So, after all this, I ended up using a "hybrid" of the two by using the built kernel with the EFI boot hack. I can reboot without problems and I get to take advantage of the kernel being faster. Here's the spec's of my machine: MSI 975X platinum powerup edition Intel E6600 CPU (overclocked to 2.91 Ghz) 3 Gig's of ram (first time in a long time system profiler didn't register it as 0 speed ram). NVidia 7900GS 256MB (I use Natit on this) M-Audio Firewire Solo soundcard Love to hear other people's experience too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMF Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 swag01, I hope you don't mind a tangetial question - how did you create a custom install dvd for the efi boot hack? It's something I would like to do but I'm still struggling to understand the brazilmac script and how I might mod it to do that. Any help or script advice would be appreciated. Thanks, SMF Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-510781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swag01 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 swag01, I hope you don't mind a tangetial question - how did you create a custom install dvd for the efi boot hack? It's something I would like to do but I'm still struggling to understand the brazilmac script and how I might mod it to do that. Any help or script advice would be appreciated. Thanks, SMF I'm finalizing my script to do everything for you. I didn't modify the install dvd to boot using the efi booter (It is on my "to do" list to try). What I did was use BrazilMac's installer and changed it so it was cleaner and only build what is necessary. I also have it working on Leopard. It's nice because when I do my testing, I just make a tweak to whatever file and then rebuild and test. I modified the OSInstall.mpkg by adding an efi and non-efi package to the installer. Then, when running the installer I can choose which I want. I used packagemaker to do this. Also, in the package, I have the scripts to set the boot type. I found most of the information on this and other hackintosh websites along with a lot of trial and error. I'm testing a few things before I give instructions on how to do this. There were two things I was never able to solve: 1. The Extensions.mkext doesn't get loaded on the dvd, so it take time to rebuild when running the dvd. I'll work on this after. 2. I tried to add the 10.5.1 update package to the OSInstall.mpkg, but installer doesn't like mpkgs calling other mpkgs. I was also trying to add the iTunes package too with the same issue. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-510911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madCowCR Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Could you inform me when you're done with the script, it's a nice job. Good Luck I'm finalizing my script to do everything for you. I didn't modify the install dvd to boot using the efi booter (It is on my "to do" list to try). What I did was use BrazilMac's installer and changed it so it was cleaner and only build what is necessary. I also have it working on Leopard. It's nice because when I do my testing, I just make a tweak to whatever file and then rebuild and test. I modified the OSInstall.mpkg by adding an efi and non-efi package to the installer. Then, when running the installer I can choose which I want. I used packagemaker to do this. Also, in the package, I have the scripts to set the boot type. I found most of the information on this and other hackintosh websites along with a lot of trial and error. I'm testing a few things before I give instructions on how to do this. There were two things I was never able to solve: 1. The Extensions.mkext doesn't get loaded on the dvd, so it take time to rebuild when running the dvd. I'll work on this after. 2. I tried to add the 10.5.1 update package to the OSInstall.mpkg, but installer doesn't like mpkgs calling other mpkgs. I was also trying to add the iTunes package too with the same issue. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-510967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMF Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 swag01, Thank you. I've been trying to learn as well from the various forums, etc. but am way behind you. I'm looking forward to seeing (and installing) what you've been able to put together. As I said, my goal at present is to install Leopard in as close to an unmodified state as possible, certainly with the stock kernal so that I can do updates without issue. Of course, as I learn more I may do as you have done and end up using a compiled kernal but for now I'm set on trying to be close to pure... SMF Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-511033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swag01 Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I've uploaded everything here: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=72180 Good luck... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-511049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMaker Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I have the exact same system that you have. 975x msi. I can't get further than 'com.apple.boot.plist' not found. I even added an external dvd drive. I tried over 50 different disks. Your guide is very good, but I have ADD and cannot concentrate long enough to follow it all the way through. Sorry, it is not your fault. :-( I would like to get past this error message. I have tried -x -s -v -legacy cpus=1 -f and others in different orders. No luck. :-( Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-750661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMaker Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Well, I found out that all of my problems were linked to the IDE DVDRW. I got a cheap $25 DVDRW that is SATA2 and was able to boot and install leopard. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72104-my-evaluation-on-the-two-ways-to-run-leopard/#findComment-753539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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