What ever could go wrong, has gone wrong...

[cwestpha]

I have atempted three methods of installing x86 nativly and each one has resulted in failer. While VMware does work corectly, every other atmept just doesnt work for me. Please tell me if you have any ideas to solve my problems:

 

1) VMware to native using physical disk

2) dd for windows

3) native install starting at darwin

 

1) When atempting to set a physical hard disk the fallowing error message comes up, "The specified device is not a valid physical disk device".

This comes up no matter what hard drive I use (OS, secondary, IDE, SATA, etc).

 

2) dd works but upon reboot I get an error message reading "GRUB loader not found". Also using that one GUI utility simply doesnt work.

 

3) Upon bootup of Darwin I am able to do everything up to the point of selecting the hard drive for install. The keyboard stops responding and I think the computer freezes.

 

 

Any help would be much apreciated.

 

Hardware:

P4 3.0Ghz 800 FSB (no SSE3)

Intel D865pearlk (ICH5R)

Radeon x800 256 megs (agp)

30 gig Maxtor spare hard drive IDE (formaly contained a Gentoo Install)

40 gig native WD hard drive (IDE)

2x 200 gig Segate SATA drive (raid 0) via ICH soft raid

Revolution 7.1

Intel 10/100/1000 built in Nic

liteon DVD burner

[NeroW]

2) dd for windows

 

2) dd works but upon reboot I get an error message reading "GRUB loader not found". Also using that one GUI utility simply doesnt work.

 

Hmm... it seems that dd didn't clean up the old boot sector on this disk - it's still looking for the old GRUB loader from the Gentoo install. Maybe a Darwin install on this disk before the dd procedure can clean out the old boot sector. or fdisk may be able to help with that.

 

But here's my problem - I can't even get the iso to run under vmware. How did you do that???

[squallbsr]

Hardware:

P4 3.0Ghz 800 FSB (no SSE3)

Intel D865pearlk (ICH5R)

Radeon x800 256 megs (agp)

30 gig Maxtor spare hard drive IDE (formaly contained a Gentoo Install)

40 gig native WD hard drive (IDE)

2x 200 gig Segate SATA drive (raid 0) via ICH soft raid

Revolution 7.1

Intel 10/100/1000 built in Nic

liteon DVD burner

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

I don't have very much of a similar setup, so this might not be helpful to you. I do have 2 IDE hard drives, a 80GB and a 27.3GD attached as Master and Slave respectively. I was able to boot and everything just fine when the 80GB had Ubuntu installed on it, the bios was set to boot from the slave drive - OSX stopped booting from the 27.3 when I formatted the 80GB as HFS+. It seems as if the darwin booter doesn't like to boot OSX from a slave drive when there is HFS+ as the master. The dd command I used to setup the 27.3 was

 

dd if=tiger-osx86-flat.imp of=/dev/hdb

 

This effectively wrote the partition table and boot records, however I'm limited to a 6GB partition on the hard drive, which causes problems. I haven't been able to re-partition or grow the partition since I'm waiting for the actual dvd downloads because I have SSE3 and GMA900 on this system. Rosetta doesn't work, so you wouldn't be able to use any existing OSX apps to resize the partition.

 

Here is my suggestion for your system: Wipe the MBR and Partition tables

 

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512

 

Partition your drive using darwin, then use deadmoo's image as so

 

dd if=tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 skip=63

 

Ensure that the osx drive is the master on the primary IDE channel...

 

Just my suggestion...

 

BTW: My Configuration--

 

Intel Celeron D 2.66 (SSE3)
Intel D915GAG Motherboad
768MB DDR 400 RAM - 32MB to Video
WD 80GB ATA/100 Hard Drive
WD 27.3GB ATA/66 Hard Drive
USB 2.0 Sony DVD-RW

[cwestpha]

ok thanks so far for your help...

 

Hmm... it seems that dd didn't clean up the old boot sector on this disk - it's still looking for the old GRUB loader from the Gentoo install. Maybe a Darwin install on this disk before the dd procedure can clean out the old boot sector. or fdisk may be able to help with that.

 

But here's my problem - I can't even get the iso to run under vmware. How did you do that???

 

my 1 problem is that I cant get Darwin to install. I can set boot options and select boot media but once it loads and asks for a install target it freezes.

 

Here is my suggestion for your system: Wipe the MBR and Partition tables

 

CODE

 

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512

 

I am transfering the image off of an NTFS Windows XP partition. I killed my Linux install to make space for the native OS X. How can I do this using DD for windows?

 

I haven't been able to re-partition or grow the partition since I'm waiting for the actual dvd downloads because I have SSE3 and GMA900 on this system. Rosetta doesn't work, so you wouldn't be able to use any existing OSX apps to resize the partition.

Have you tried using the rosetta patches? you may have to step it back down to SSE2 but it could work using the patches.

[leoniloilo]

While VMware does work corectly, every other atmept just doesnt work for me. Please tell me if you have any ideas to solve my problems:

1) VMware to native using physical disk

When atempting to set a physical hard disk the fallowing error message comes up, "The specified device is not a valid physical disk device".

This comes up no matter what hard drive I use (OS, secondary, IDE, SATA, etc).

 

I got that problem with VMWare too.

The cause was that the first time i unzipped the Deadmoo package, there went something wrong.

The disk file was bout 3GB instead of 6GB,

and i couldn't mount it in VMWare.

 

Then i got WinRar 3.50.

Rightclicked the Deadmoo file, and choosed "Decompress here".

Then i got the right 6GB disk file, which i could mount in VMware.

 

Then in OSX with Disk Utility i copied the VMWare HD to a physical HD.

So in that way i was able to run OSX natively.

[cwestpha]

I got that problem with VMWare too.

The cause was that the first time i unzipped the Deadmoo package, there went something wrong.

The disk file was bout 3GB instead of 6GB,

and i couldn't mount it in VMWare.

 

Then i got WinRar 3.50.

Rightclicked the Deadmoo file, and choosed "Decompress here".

Then i got the right 6GB disk file, which i could mount in VMware.

 

Then in OSX with Disk Utility i copied the VMWare HD to a physical HD.

So in that way i was able to run OSX natively.

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my problem is not related to your problem. My problem is with mounting and using a physical hard disk (reading and writing directly to a physical hard drive) and not a virtual one (ie a "hard disk file").

I have no problem with mounting and using the deadmoo image. Its using a physical drive that is the problem.

[leoniloilo]

my problem is not related to your problem. My problem is with mounting and using a physical hard disk (reading and writing directly to a physical hard drive) and not a virtual one (ie a "hard disk file").

I have no problem with mounting and using the deadmoo image. Its using a physical drive that is the problem.

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1. Boot into your newly cloned native installation in single user mode, -s.

2. Run the command to make the disk writable:

/sbin/mount -uw/

Then do these commands:

mv /var/db/netinfo/local.nidb /var/db/netinfo/local.nidb.bad

rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone

3. Reboot normally into OSX.

 

Credit goes to sbir.

 

Make sure your HD is attached to a standard ATA100 controller.

[cwestpha]

1. Boot into your newly cloned native installation in single user mode, -s.

2. Run the command to make the disk writable:

/sbin/mount -uw/

Then do these commands:

mv /var/db/netinfo/local.nidb /var/db/netinfo/local.nidb.bad

rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone

3. Reboot normally into OSX.

 

Credit goes to sbir.

 

Make sure your HD is attached to a standard ATA100 controller.

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doesnt work. cant boot into the drive in the first place. VMware wont allow the hard drive to be physicly accessed as it does not see any hard drive in my system as valid for raw mounting. Please read previus posts.

[cwestpha]

ok perhaps some people think all three of these problems are linked. they are not. they are the problems I am having progressing with each of the three way to get OS X native working on a PC.

 

the first is using the dd and a .img method. This does not work as the MBR is not being altered or erased.

 

second is having VMware use a physical disk, do all of the work in vmware, then reboot your machine and boot into the OS X install. This is not working because VMware is not allowing me to use any hard drive as the physical disk. There are no problems with booting the .img file in vmware throught the fake drive file.

 

Third is to do all of the work in a darwin install on the hard drive. This is not working because darwin freezes right when it asks which drive you want to install to.

 

Of course there is also the DVD install method. but even with all of the patches I apply the GUI starts up and loads then backs out saying that the hardware is not supported.

[rexhite]

I have similar problems.

 

I can run the Deadmoo image in VMware (it's basically unusable on my hardware, the beachball just spins most of the time)

 

I get the same error in VMware when I try to create a new guest that uses a full hard drive instead of a virtual drive, (invalid device). Whether the drive is mounted or unmounted (unrecognised) in Windows makes no difference.

 

I have used the ubuntu live disk to dd the image to an empty hard drive with no errors apparent in that operation, but on re-boot, the screen just stays blank with a blinking cursor. I have tried it with a regular IDE drive.

 

I have run through the fairly detailed instructions for creating a native installation using VMware and PearPC etc, (http://www.xplodenet.com/?p=guide), but near the end, after I have mounted the "stuff" iso and attempt to run;

cp -RLv CoreGraphics /Volumes/Untitled/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/

I get a syntax usage error that I cannot for the life of me correct. I have never got past that.

 

It's a real bummer, because I would love to see how OSX86 runs on a dual Opteron. I need a tutorial for the ultra-noob.

[cwestpha]

got it working. Used that boot utilities CD on the web to low level format the hard drive, used WinHex, did a copy starting at 0 and it all worked.

Now I am just trying to get my keyboard to work (USB mouse PS/2 keyboard problem).

 

P.S.

still need to kill off ATI kexts and configure networking which aparently was detected properly.

[ngrava]

got it working. Used that boot utilities CD on the web to low level format the hard drive, used WinHex, did a copy starting at 0 and it all worked.

Now I am just trying to get my keyboard to work (USB mouse PS/2 keyboard problem).

 

P.S.

still need to kill off ATI kexts and configure networking which aparently was detected properly.

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Hey! Wait a minute there! don't go off and run away just yet. What Boot utilities CD are you talking about?!!

 

Thanks,

 

n-g