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sobanek
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Hi, I'm getting a Dell Optiplex GX240/GX260 tomorrow for free :(

 

Specs:

 

- Intel Pentium 4 2GHz

- 768MB SDRAM

- 40GB Hard Drive

- Probably Integrated Graphics although could be GeForce FX5200 128MB

 

I want to install iPC on it and was wondering if it's worth installing or should I be better off with Tiger.

 

BTW. I have a Wireless USB modem, is there any drivers that are compatible with the USB Wi-fi Modems?

 

//edit: I know it's an old {censored} computer, but they're compatible with Mac OS X - also, I wouldn't mind a second computer that's a "Mac" and which runs at a G5 level.

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srs5694
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A lot will depend on the motherboard chipset, and if the video is provided on the motherboard, what it is. The motherboard's chipset provides the interface to the hard disk, USB devices, audio, and other very basic functions, and there must be OS X drivers available for all of that or some of it won't work. Most critically, if OS X can't read your hard disk, you won't get very far. OTOH, you may be able to add cards to work around some problems. Certainly the basic specs (RAM, CPU speed, etc.) are adequate. (I even once installed 10.6, which officially requires 1GB of RAM, on a system with 768MB of RAM, although it was a bit dodgy -- sometimes it wouldn't boot. 10.5 officially requires only 512MB of RAM, so you should be OK there.) I wouldn't expect it to be a speed demon, of course; a system like that is pretty low-end by today's standards.

 

I'm not sure if the FX5200 is supported. If not, it will probably be possible to install and use OS X, but you won't get QE/CI, which means you may not be able to play DVDs, run certain games, etc. FWIW, I've got a system with an FX5200 running 10.6, and it's OK, but I haven't gotten QE/CI working. This isn't a huge problem for me at the moment, but it might be for you.

Daveta
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...I've got a system with an FX5200 running 10.6, and it's OK, but I haven't gotten QE/CI working. This isn't a huge problem for me at the moment, but it might be for you.

 

and so isn't ok...

 

 

sobanek: not agp! it have many problems!

srs5694
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I wouldn't rule out post-Tiger systems. I've got OS X 10.6 running on a system with an AGP FX5200 card, 2.5GHz Celeron-D, 1.5GB RAM (originally 768MB), and a total of 140GB disk space (split with a Linux install). It runs, and is perfectly acceptable for many purposes. The main drawback is the lack of QE/CI on the video. I disagree with Daveta's assessment that this is universally not OK; it depends on your needs. If you want to use the system for word processing, for instance, there's little need for sophisticated graphics. If you want to play DVDs, forget it; you need QE/CI.

 

Be careful with the CPU upgrade. Older motherboards often don't work with newer CPUs. Check the supported CPU list for the motherboard and be sure that it supports whatever CPU you intend to install. Note that just because a CPU matches specs like the socket type and FSB speed doesn't mean it'll work in the motherboard. I recently made the mistake of not checking the supported CPU list for a motherboard and tried to upgrade the CPU, and it didn't work. I ended up buying a new motherboard and RAM, which doubled or tripled what I'd expected to spend on the upgrade.

muchlife
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Hi, I'm getting a Dell Optiplex GX240/GX260 tomorrow for free :rolleyes:

 

Specs:

 

- Intel Pentium 4 2GHz

- 768MB SDRAM

- 40GB Hard Drive

- Probably Integrated Graphics although could be GeForce FX5200 128MB

 

leopard will be fine but without more ram its going to be quite slow. Integrated Graphics on that dell won't support Core Image or Quartz Extreme, although the FX 5200 128MB works great and will. i can walk you through install for it. i have a dell dimension 8300 3Ghz with 3.5 GB Ram and it works great. records music in logic, photoshop works great, watch downloaded movies all the time on it. your processor while slower, if you can make up for it with ram in upwards of 2GB or more, you'd be in good shape. If up'ing the ram is not an option than perhaps you should stick with tiger.

 

iPC 10.5.6 gets along great with dell dimensions and optplex's

 

for customized iPC install i would choose:

 

9.5.0 voodoo kernel

legacy time machine fix

AppleIntelIIXATA for chipset

no video driver selected

AC97 for audio

Intel Pro 100/VE for network

Patched USB drivers

FIXES/PATCHES choose ACPI fix, seatbeltkext, ShutdownRestart

PS2 mouse/keyboard support only if you need it

Patch DSDT

AppleSMBIOS ToH

Chameleon with SMBIOS/DSDT

and applications at least grab OSX86 tools, Universal installer, kext helper b7 and NTFS

sobanek
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I got the computer today.

It turned out it has 512MB RAM instead of 768MB and no HDD.

 

Intel Pentium IV 2.4GHz

512MB RAM

AGP Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 440 64MB

No HDD

DVD Combo Drive

 

Still not bad for getting it for free :rolleyes:

Getting €70 and replacing ram with 1GB, GeForce 2 with maybe GeForce 7300 GT and an 60GB HDD.

 

What will the Hackint0sh be used for:

- iPhone SDK

- Web Browsing

 

And that's probably it :)

muchlife
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get a dirt cheap FX 5200 AGP so you can have Quartz Extreme and Core Image. Otherwise you'll be stuck with VESA driver for that vid card you have

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....e=AGP%204X%2f8X

 

refurb one here for $20

http://www.txcesssurplus.com/servlet/the-5...00-128MB/Detail

 

or google shopping link

http://www.google.com/products?q=fx+5200+a...n&scoring=p

sobanek
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Anyways, as it's my b-day soon, I guess I'll just buy a new computer and run OS X in dual boot with Windows Seven.

 

Is that compatible with OS X ?

 

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 @ 2.6GHz

3GB of 800MHz DDR2 RAM

Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3

 

AND ALSO

 

Intel Celeron Dual Core E1200 @ 3GHz (OC)

2GB DDR2 RAM

GeForce 8400GS 512MB DDR2

 

This is going to be my mates Hackintosh.

 

:tomato:

srs5694
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Anyways, as it's my b-day soon, I guess I'll just buy a new computer and run OS X in dual boot with Windows Seven.

 

Is that compatible with OS X ?

 

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 @ 2.6GHz

3GB of 800MHz DDR2 RAM

Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3

 

The single most important factor in determining OSx86 compatibility is the motherboard chipset, so find out what those systems you mention are using for that. If the motherboard chipset is completely unsupported, OS X won't be able to see the hard disk, and if it's not well-supported, the system might boot but you'll have problems with USB, audio, or other basic components. You can replace or supplement some dodgy on-motherboard components, at least on desktop system, but after a point this gets ridiculous.

 

After the motherboard chipset, look at the CPU (most modern Intel CPUs work best, followed by modern AMD CPUs and older Intel CPUs, followed by others). After the CPU, look at the video chipset (which is integrated on most modern motherboards, although you can usually add a separate card with desktop systems). AFAIK, RAM type and speed aren't an issue for basic compatibility, although of course they can affect overall performance. Amount of RAM is obviously important.

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