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Hey

 

I'm buying a pc to install osx86 on. I'm gonna make it so it only has mac on and nothing else. Right anyway.

Heres a tower which I'm thinking about buying:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300306361259

 

Specs:

CPU

  • AMD Athlon X2 5200 Processor
  • Dual Core
  • 2 x 2.7GHz Cores
  • 64 Bit Compatible
  • 1MB L2 Cache
  • 65nm Technology (Lower is Better!)
  • Genuine AMD Heatsink & Fan Installed
  • Energy Efficient (65 Watt)

RAM

  • Huge 4GB of Memory (2 x 2GB Modules)



  • Latest DDR2 Technology (Double Data Rate)



  • Super Fast 800MHz Memory Interface



  • Only HIGH QUALITY BRANDED memory used from top 5 manufacturers; Corsair, Crucial, Kingston, Lexar & OCZ


GRAPHICS

  • NVIDIA 9500GT Graphics Card



  • Massive 1GB DDR2 Dedicated Graphics Memory



  • 800MHz Memory with 128 Bit Memory Interface



  • 550MHz GPU Core with 32 Stream Processors



  • PCI-Express x16 Interface



  • Direct X 10 Support



  • 2560 x 1600 Max Resolution



  • 1 x DVI, 1 x VGA & 1 x S-Video Outputs



  • Supports High Definition Graphics and Media (Blu-Ray etc)



  • Excellent mid level graphics card for getting the most out of Windows Vista Aero and playing most games on medium to high graphics settings at higher resolutions.


HARD DISK DRIVE

  • 500GB Storage Capacity



  • Large 16MB Memory Cache for Increased Responsiveness



  • Fast 7,200RPM Rotation Speed



  • SATA 2 Interface



  • Only HIGH QUALITY BRANDED hard drives used from top manufacturers; Hitachi, Maxtor, Samsung, Seagate & Western Digital


NETWORK CONNECTIVITY

  • Wireless 802.11b/g LAN Card Included



  • 10/100Mbps Ethernet LAN (RJ45)



  • Hi Speed USB 2.0 Connections for Broadband Modems


MOTHERBOARD & OTHER FEATURES

  • 7 x Hi Speed USB 2.0 Ports (4 on rear, 3 in Front)
  • 6 Channel Audio (5.1) (Plus Headphone & Mic Socket on Front)
  • 2 Spare PCI x1 Slots (To add extras components in future)
  • 1 PCI-E x16 Slot (Taken up by Graphics Card)
  • 1 PCI Slot (Taken up by Wireless LAN Card)
  • 10/100 Ethernet LAN (RJ45 Connection for Broadband/Router etc)
  • VGA Graphics Port
  • Serial Port
  • PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse Ports
  • Motherboard Manual & All Driver CDs for all components are included

 

Any help?

 

Thanks, Chris

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Okay, after looking at other items I found this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HiSpec-Desktop-Gamin...93%3A1|294%3A30

Its exactly the same but with an intel processor.

 

Its £100 more than the other one.

 

Which should I buy? I don't really fancy paying out the extra 100 if the amd processor will work fine?

 

Thanks, Chris

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Okay, after looking at other items I found this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HiSpec-Desktop-Gamin...93%3A1|294%3A30

Its exactly the same but with an intel processor.

 

Its £100 more than the other one.

 

Which should I buy? I don't really fancy paying out the extra 100 if the amd processor will work fine?

 

Thanks, Chris

 

 

Intel processors are much more compatable. You have less headaches it's easier to upgrade you can run vanilla and you have to jump thru less hoops. Also you can install from a vanilla osx disc.

 

I'd get and intel cpu and a gigabyte board. You only run AMD if it's what you already have. If your building a new system for osx you go intel as that's what real macs use.

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Ask the ebay seller what Motherboard the system is being built on - That is one of the first steps to making sure it is fully compatible. Intel processors are many many times faster than the AMD rivals and are much more compatible with OS X, So the intel is definitely the way to go but make sure you find out what motherboard this system comes with so people on the forum can advise you on whether or not it is compatible.

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Gigabyte G31M-ES2L

 

Is this okay? Compatible? Work all right? Please?

Yup, that'll work perfectly. It's one of the best boards for OSX actually.

 

Not 100% sure about the graphics card, but it should work- just use EFI strings and select 8600GT/1GB- the 9500 is really an 8600 with a smaller die.

 

Use Kaido's ES2L guide and files from this thread and an OSX Retail DVD and you're good to go.

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Okay I'm not very good with the whole osx86 thing, whats the es2l thing? And would I be able to just install an iPC etc distro? If not am I going to need to buy an os x disc or can someone hint in the direction where to download it?

 

Thanks, Chris

ES2L- just short for Gigabyte G31M-ES2L (Keep in mind, most setup guides for Hackintoshes revolve around the motherboard model).

 

If you buy a retail DVD of OSX, you can use the files provided in the above link to set up the machine- it's all you need.

 

You can download a 'distro' version of OSX (IMHO not quite as good as a retail install, plus the warm fuzzy feeling you get knowing you're as 'legit' as possible- but hey, most of us started out using a distro first.) Use google, and look for iDeneb, or iPC. There may be some others- frankly I'm no longer up on the distro methods. Use as late a version as is currently available- IE: 10.5.6 or 10.5.7. Word has it these can be found on the bay... ;)

 

When you setup a machine using a distro, you need to choose the right drivers for the board during the install. Lots of people are using the ES2L, so look around this forum for what others have used. A hint: I used to go to the newegg specs page for the motherboard type, and note the key component types that need drivers.

 

IE: ES2L

 

Go to the specifications tab. The southbridge is Intel ICH7. The sound is ALC883. The LAN is Realtek 8111C. Those will all be driver choices during a distro setup.

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Okay thanks, I have a dvd of iDeneb 1.4, iPC 10.5.6 and I downloaded a retail 10.5.6. Does anything need to be done to the retail dvd for it to work? And do you install drivers fron the retail dvd? Or are they already there?

 

Sorry I'm such a noob...

 

Thanks for all the help! Chris

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If you use the retail method- go to the thread I linked to earlier. Download the ES2L kit from a link posted by Kaido in the thread. It contains all the drivers and the boot-132.iso you need to boot/install using the retail DVD. He also includes a text file with detailed instructions. The drivers (kext files) are installed after a retail DVD install, using a tool called UInstaller- also included in the kit.

 

I personally prefer the retail DVD install method because it allows full system updates and is as close to 'vanilla' (unaltered OSX) as possible. I can't guarantee it works with a pirated copy of OSX, but this method works great with the actual retail DVD.

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The retail DVD is 7.5gb? Do I need to buy an 8gb dvd for it to work? And will it work on a dvd+r? Also, will everything on the os work? Like the photobooth, garage band etc? And would parallels work? Because I would love for it to have parallels on it?

 

Thanks, ChrissehB

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The retail DVD is 7.5gb? Do I need to buy an 8gb dvd for it to work? And will it work on a dvd+r? Also, will everything on the os work? Like the photobooth, garage band etc? And would parallels work? Because I would love for it to have parallels on it?

 

Thanks, ChrissehB

 

Hmm... I'm not sure why Kaido no longer has the complete guide in his download kits. Usually it's just a text file. You might PM him on anandtech and ask him for the guide if it's not posted on his website link.

 

I can't really advise you about copying the OSX DVD. I've only ever used the legit real thing, and always advise just buying it. I've heard that people have really had a hard time getting a working copy on a dual-layer disk.

 

To answer you first question, any (legit) retail version from 10.5 on up works fine. Install the version you have, then upgraded via software update.

 

If you can't get a working retail, then just use iPC or iDeneb or another distro. These work well for many people. I personally prefer retail because it's more 'legit' and as vanilla as possible, but you can certainly have a perfectly working system from a decent distro.

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By the way, yes, Garage band, photobooth and all the iApps will work just fine. I haven't found any Mac apps that won't run on a Hackintosh every bit as well as a 'real' Mac. Parallels will work fine too, but for best results, I recommend using a processor that supports VT (Virtual Technology).

 

For example:

 

E5300- no VT support.

E7400- no VT support.

E8400- VT support.

 

No VT support doesn't mean virtual machines and OS's won't work- I've run VMware and any 32-bit OS on E7400 systems no problem. But you can't run 64-bit OS's without VT support. (By the way, unless you own Parallels, I highly recommend VMware Fusion 2.0 over Parallels. From my experience, I had some flakiness issues with Parallels- but no problems with VMware ever, and it seems slightly faster. Parallels doesn't allow Bootcamp on a Hackintosh, but VMware does allow booting an actual Windows install in a VM, so it's like having Bootcamp.)

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:D Only one problem is that the wireless doesn't see to work :S

 

TRY: the ralink OSX drivers for PCI cards. (NOT USB). There's RT2860 and RT256x.

 

If you're in luck and your card has a ralink chipset, the right one of these should enable it in OSX. (Important: if you try a driver and it doesn't work, use the included uninstall.pkg to remove it before trying the other so you keep your system clean of unnessisary drivers.)

 

If not, you can get a PCI wireless card that is supported and swap it out.

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