[Help] Dual booting Leopard and Windows XP

[kompile15]

Hello,

 

I am attempting to set up my computer to dual boot with Leopard and Windows XP. So far I have successfully partitioned my harddrive in the following way:

 

Partition 1: 390 GB Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Partition 2: 75 GB Windows NT File System (NTFS)

 

I have successfully installed Leopard on the 1st partition and there are no issues with it. The darwin bootloader recognizes both partitions, but when I boot to my Windows XP install CD it tells me that there are no harddrives available to install Windows XP on, and the only option I have is to quit and reboot.

 

My question is this: how can I get the Windows CD to recognize the second partition so I can install windows? If I need to provide more information please let me know.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

-Jon

[Bluprint101]

u could try using the windows cd to delete the second partition and re-creating it with the unallocated space with the windows NTFS file system

 

 

plus Leopard doesn't allow you to create Ntfs filesystem unless it is a modified NTFS-3g which wont work the windows cd

 

If I need to provide more information please let me know.

and yes you need to provide more info

like the Mac OSX DVD you're Using ie. Kalyway or???

and whether u chose MBR or GUID

Master Boot record Means you pc will automatically be booting into leopard no matter what (if you Use 1 Hard Disk and partition it)

GUID allows for multiple OS's on the same HD (with partitions)

 

also i think you need to look for a "post patch"( Combination of Automated Terminal Commands and tweaks for your Leopard) for your OSX DVD or the Terminal commands and do it you'r self manually

 

1. to make darwin recognize and list both OS's at start up

2. to be able to make each partion active when you choose either 1

 

 

 

n.b after you install windows xp, windows would make your second partition active thus only booting into windows

so you'll have to boot back with your Leopard DVD and use Terminal to add the command to let darwin handle that

[kompile15]

The current partition map scheme is "Master Boot Record".

 

First I used disk utility and set the second partition to fat32. When I booted to the windows CD I get this error saying that there are no hard disks available to install windows on. The only option I have is to press F3 to exit. I used a partition manager to format the second partition as NTFS thinking that it might allow the windows installer to see the hard drive. However, when I booted to the windows cd again it still gives me that error and does not recognize the harddrive.

 

Are you saying that I need to change the partition map scheme from MBR to GUID in order to have multiple operating systems on the same hd?

 

Edit: I used the Leo4All DVD with 10.5.2.

[Bluprint101]

chk with Disk Utility and see if its the whole Volume That has been partition to Extended Journal

Thus rendering it Unreadable by windows

 

The Norm is The Volume itself is FAT32

and then Two partitions created from the volume them could go either way OSX Extended Journal or FAT32

 

 

MBR Could Work!!! Don't really Know But it overwrites the Partition Map so The System Only looks for the OS there

 

 

Plus check to see if they are primary partitions

cuz logical partitions can't run OS's

maybe your partition manager did that

[kompile15]

Firstly, thank you so much for your help bluprint, I really appreciate it.

 

Secondly, I have uploaded two screenshots of the harddrive information in disk utility. Under the partition tab it looks like the entire thing is formatted as Mac OS Extended, but I'm not sure. Can you look at the two and tell me? If it is formatted as Mac OS extended, is this what I need to do:

 

1. Boot to the Mac OS DVD and run Disk Utility.

2. Format the entire drive as FAT32.

3. Set up main partition (390 GB) as Mac OS Extended.

4. Set up second partition (75 GB) as FAT32.

 

 

Thanks again!

 

edit: Also, I am relatively sure that they are both primary partitions, not logical partitions.

[Bluprint101]

If The Whole Volume is formatted as Extended Journal

Then Yes you have to do what you've outlined

i couldn't see your pics enlarged ****

 

I'm trying to upload a post patch i've used for a while that has made Dual booting easiest for me and anyone else

i'm having problems uploading the file with the file sharing website

i'll create a new post in a while hopefully you would have gotten your filesystems ready for it

 

exactly what you underlined meaning you'll have to reinstall,

i'll have the post patch up when u're done

[kompile15]

Some questions before I go ahead and reformat:

 

1. Should I format with GUID, or stick with MBR?

2. To format as FAT32 I select the drive at the TOP of the tree (in my case it is 465.8 GB ST3500630AS Media), not the two partitions underneath, correct?

3. What should I do if there is no option from the drop down menu for FAT32?

[Bluprint101]

Go with GUID when re-installing

and Yes The Drive at The Very top ie 465.8 GB ST3500630AS Media)

there Will be an option for FAT32 before you even click on Erase

you choose first before you format not format and choose...

 

what is your system make and configuration and are you using an external or????

[kompile15]

okay well i'm backing up my system at the moment, it should take about 30 more minutes then i'll reformat. ill post back when i get things reinstalled. thanks again for the help.

[kompile15]

Okay the Windows CD is still not recognizing that there are any disks to install windows to. Here is what I did.

 

1. Booted to Leo4All DVD and opened Disk Utility.

2. Formatted the entire disk (465.8 GB ST3500630AS Media) as FAT32. This was successful.

3. Went over to the partition tab and selected a 2 Partition Scheme. Partition 1 is ~390 GB and formatted as Mac OS Extended. Partition 2 is 75 GB and formatted as FAT32. I set the Partition Map Scheme to "GUID Partition Table". This was successful.

4. Installed Mac OS on partition 1. This was successful.

5. Booted to Mac OS and went through the preliminary setup (enter name, address, etc...). Inserted the Windows CD and rebooted.

6. The computer booted to the Windows CD and loaded all the drivers, then gave me the following error:

 

"Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer."

 

The only option I have is to press F3 to quit, then the computer reboots.

[robertoSTUDIOS]

Okay the Windows CD is still not recognizing that there are any disks to install windows to. Here is what I did.

 

1. Booted to Leo4All DVD and opened Disk Utility.

2. Formatted the entire disk (465.8 GB ST3500630AS Media) as FAT32. This was successful.

3. Went over to the partition tab and selected a 2 Partition Scheme. Partition 1 is ~390 GB and formatted as Mac OS Extended. Partition 2 is 75 GB and formatted as FAT32. I set the Partition Map Scheme to "GUID Partition Table". This was successful.

4. Installed Mac OS on partition 1. This was successful.

5. Booted to Mac OS and went through the preliminary setup (enter name, address, etc...). Inserted the Windows CD and rebooted.

6. The computer booted to the Windows CD and loaded all the drivers, then gave me the following error:

 

"Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer."

 

The only option I have is to press F3 to quit, then the computer reboots.

 

Hi!

 

In BIOS you turn of SATA Native Mode? If posible?

If not or enabled by default, disable Sata native mode and test the XP install cd...

[SMF]

My recommendations/thoughts -

 

Use MBR instead of GUID. While XP will work on a GUID drive it's painful to get it working.

 

OSX generally needs AHCI set in BIOS to install and run. When your BIOS is set this way you will need to install AHCI drivers during the WIN XP install. To do this you will need a floppy with the correct AHCI drivers for your hardware and will need to press F6 when Windows Setup prompts you to install additional drivers.

 

SMF

[Bluprint101]

Hi!

 

In BIOS you turn of SATA Native Mode? If posible?

If not or enabled by default, disable Sata native mode and test the XP install cd...

 

 

 

I Agree With Him perfectly

you should turn off your HD SATA settings in bios

 

and I think MBR is ok when you use a time-out patch or else

it'll just boot straight into Leopard

 

but since you've got GUID working thats ok too

[kompile15]

Thanks for the help you guys.

 

Here are the things I have done since last night.

 

I have turned off the SATA settings in bios - windows cd will not recognize the hard drive

I have changed the AHCI settings to "basic" - windows cd will not recognize the hard drive

 

Do you guys think I will encounter the same problem if I add another SATA hard drive and try to install windows on that?

[Bluprint101]

If you do add another HD make sure its connection bus is ATA

to see if it'll work, mine is, but i can't say for sure.

[kompile15]

What about this:

 

1. What if I boot to a partition manager and reformat the entire drive as NTFS.

2. Make two partitions, partition 1 being 75 GB NTFS.

3. Make partition 2 390 GB as FAT32.

4. Install windows on partition 1 and add the "chain0" thing to make osx bootable.

5. Boot to osx cd and format partition 2 as Mac OS. journaled.

6. Install osx.

 

Is the windows cd not seeing my harddrive because of the way it is formatted, or because there might be a problem with the drive itself?

 

As always, I truly appreciate the help that you guys have given me!

 

-jon

[Rizla]

What about this:

 

1. What if I boot to a partition manager and reformat the entire drive as NTFS.

2. Make two partitions, partition 1 being 75 GB NTFS.

3. Make partition 2 390 GB as FAT32.

4. Install windows on partition 1 and add the "chain0" thing to make osx bootable.

5. Boot to osx cd and format partition 2 as Mac OS. journaled.

6. Install osx.

 

Is the windows cd not seeing my harddrive because of the way it is formatted, or because there might be a problem with the drive itself?

 

As always, I truly appreciate the help that you guys have given me!

 

-jon

 

 

 

Hi

 

Try starting from the beginning clear everything, set all SATA setting back to normal.

 

Using the OSX disk go to Disk Utilities and choose erase, erase the whole disk, then make one Partition using FAT32 and Master Boot Record. Then exit out and use the Windows CD and check that the disk is available to install on?

 

Ta

[d!g!t@lTr@sh]

Try to begin installing XP by itself, but don't install it. Here's what I mean. Format the whole drive to FAT using MBR and load from XP CD. See if it sees the whole drive. If it doesn't, play with the BIOS AHCI/SATA settings to see for which of the options XP DOES see the drive. If none of them get you to the point where XP sees a drive, you probably need drivers from your HDD controller company to be installed using the F6 option during XP install. Just find out what your SATA controller is (say intel, nvidia, via, etc.), go to their website and find your driver. You most likely will need to use a floppy to install windows using the F6 option.

 

Finally, if XP does see a drive (w/o the driver issue), try installing XP first and then OSX. Use MBR option.

 

Cheers, Hope this helps, otherwise, you're gonna have to do more of

[kompile15]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I will give these things a try this weekend, I am too busy with school right now. I will post back when I try :-D

 

-Jon

[Bluprint101]

you can reverse engineer it i'm pretty sure your machine has run windows before!!! unless you just built it or its a real mac (unlikely)

 

so if you can get it back to its factory settings, using 1 of those restore cd's

then you'll have windows and then you can create a new partition on it and install Leopard

that way.

 

then you'll finish it off with repairing windows and installing a boot manager

 

Dual Booting can and has also been done the other way around

good luck,

 

 

if you've been using a diff WIN XP CD all along, try the 1 you know worked

but i'm pretty sure its the way your HD is connected

 

safe!!!

[Riddimz]

I Had This Problem

 

You can if you want add the sata drivers to your xp installation cd but since you dont have it installed you should find yourself a copy on the internet that already has sata drivers in it.

 

a quick search in google using the serch term "xp with sata driver +rapidshare" should give you download links. use that disk to install with no more issues whatsoever

[kompile15]

Riddimz thank you so much, I downloaded a version of winxp with sata drivers and now the windows setup is recognizing ALL my drives! I haven't installed it yet because I have class, but in a couple hours I'm going to install it and see how it works. A big thank you to everyone else who helped me as well, you guys and/or gals are great!!

 

-Jon

[kompile15]

*Update*

Okay, so I now have a fully functional computer that dual boots Windows XP and Mac OS X. I got it to work when I downloaded a version of Windows XP that included SATA drivers. Here is the process that I used:

 

1. Boot to Mac OS X DVD and load Disk Utility.

2. Used disk utility to delete all partitions and formatted the drive as FAT32 with MBR. Then created two partitions (390 GB HFS+) and (75 GB FAT32).

3. Installed Mac OS on the 390 GB drive, rebooted and successfully booted to Mac OS.

4. Rebooted and booted to the Windows XP cd. Installed Windows, rebooted, and successfully booted to Windows XP.

5. Added chain0 to C: and modified the boot.ini file with "C:\chain0="Mac OS X""

6. Rebooted and now I am able to choose between Windows and Mac when I boot.

 

I hope this can help anybody in the future who had a similar problem. Thanks again to everyone that helped me!!

 

-Jon

[lol3rcaust]

Kompile, where (and at what point) did you copy the chain0 file from the mac? I tried this but forgot to copy the chain0 file first, then it wouldn't let me boot back into mac...any ideas?

[kompile15]

Right after I installed windows. I booted to windows, downloaded the chain0 file and put it in my c: drive. You can download the file from here: http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/wp-cont...6/08/chain0.rar

 

Extract the file and put it in C: then add C:\chain0="OS X" to the end of your boot.ini file (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Stock_XP_and_OS_X_Dual_Boot)

 

I hope this helps!

 

-Jon