PATA (IDE) --> SATA

[leoniloilo]

i installed 10.4.5 with a PATA drive as master,

and the optical drive as slave.

All went well.

 

Then with Disk Utility i did a restore

from the PATA drive to a SATA drive.

In System i told OSX to boot from the SATA.

I removed the PATA.

 

In BIOS i checked that SATA is enabled,

and that the SATA drive is the boot drive.

 

Problem:

the SATA drive does not boot.

All i see is a grey screen with the Apple logo.

The top of the screen is a black "row".

 

Starting with the boot option -v gives only a black screen.

There are no messages at all.

 

When Darwin boots,

and you have the 10 seconds or so to provide a boot option,

when i press "?" (to see the boot options)

i only see strange characters at various places on the screen.

 

Anyone who had this problem too...?

[miliuco]

1- I think that Disk Utility doesn't clone (restore) as you want a system disk that is in use.

 

2- You must use an utility to clone disks or partitions like Ghost 2003. You can get a boot CD with Ghost 2003 here:

 

.miliuco.net/soft/bootcd_pcdos.zip (www at the beginning)

[leoniloilo]

Unfortunately, Ghost 2003 doesn't work for me,

because my sata drive is a few GBs smaller than the pata one.

 

But it makes sense to me,

when you say the restore may not be good,

as some system files are in use.

 

Therefor i'll try another approach:

i'll boot from another pata,

and then perform a disk restore from the pata (the one that is not the system disk)

to the sata.

[miliuco]

Unfortunately, Ghost 2003 doesn't work for me, because my sata drive is a few GBs smaller than the pata one.

...

i'll boot from another pata, and then perform a disk restore from the pata (the one that is not the system disk)

to the sata.

 

Ghost 2003: try other option: to clone a partition to other partition, selecting as source the partition in the PATA disk an selecting as target the whole SATA disk, say us if it works.

 

Disk restore: try it, it's possible that if the system that you want to put in the new disk isn't in use (booting from another operating system), it can work.

[leoniloilo]

In Ghost2003, cloning partitions doesn't work neither.

The reason is that the disk contains only 1 partition.

The partition on the sata drive is a few GBs smaller than the one on the pata.

 

I tried several approaches, but so far no luck.

 

Here is one that SHOULD work, but it didn't:

 

drive 1 = Seagate pata 40GB with a working 10.4.5. (booting drive)

drive 2 = Maxtor sata 300GB with a working 10.4.1.

drive 3 = Western Digital sata Raptor 35GB, fresh partitioned (with Disk Utility).

It's that drive 3 that i want to by my system disk with 10.4.5 on it.

 

i booted with the Seagata pata.

With Disk Utility, i restored the Maxtor sata to the WD sata.

There were no errors.

Checked permissions.

i rebooted with the 10.4.5 install disc.

Install went without any error.

The system restarted itself,

and i saw that the WD sata was the system disk, with 10.4.5 on it!

Checked permissions.

I restarted - choosed in BIOS the WD to be the booting disk,

all i see is a black screen with a blinking cursor...

 

The main reason that i want to use that WD sata Raptor,

is that it is a damn fast disk (10.000 rpm)

Much faster that the 7.200 rpm disks.

 

The system 10.4.5 is capable to boot from

a pata Seagate,

a sata Maxtor,

but not from the fast sata WD Raptor.

I think OSX has difficulties with recognizing the WD.

On the website of WD i don't see anything special about the raptor being used under OSX.

One should just use Disk Utility to partition the drive.

 

I think i'll have to stick with my 2 Maxtor sata 300GB 7.200 rpm.

I use one as the system disk,

and the other as a backup.

[miliuco]

Yes, I don't undestand why you can't boot Tiger from the Raptor, it seems that the working system can recognize both SATA disk because it loads the appropiate extensions (you can restore the Maxtor sata to the WD sata) but then... why that black screen?

When you boot from the Raptor, how is the Maxtor, plugged or unplugged into the board? Have you tried to boot from the Raptor with the Maxtor plugged and unplugged? There's any difference if you plugg the Raptor into the first SATA onboard connector or in any other?

[leoniloilo]

There are 4 sata ports on my Intel 915GMH mobo.

It doesn't make any difference if i try to boot the maxtor from another sata port.

Making the seagate and/or maxtor plugged or unplugged gives no other result.

 

I should add that (of course) i downloaded & installed the latest bios for my mobo.

[miliuco]

I'll think about this but in this moment I have no useful idea for you :censored2:

[leoniloilo]

it's ok, Emilio.

 

Thank you for your suggestions anyway !

 

At least i should be happy that i have a working 10.4.5 system.

I even have audio !

 

The main reason that i upgraded from 10.4.1

was not that that the system was too slow or so

but i never succeeded in joining the mac into a windows domain.

 

i thought it would be more easy in 10.4.5,

but i think these network problems remain.

Anyway - i still have to study this...

[leoniloilo]

Hello Emilio from Spain!

Good day to you!

If you are still around,

you might be interested that i've found a solution

for booting 10.4.5 from a Western Digital HD sata Raptor 10.000 rpm.

 

The wrong way (the way i did previous) is:

restoring a 10.4.1 sata/pata disk or 10.4.5 sata/pata to the WD disk -

(either with Disk Utility or Ghost2003 or DD...) -

and afther that installing 10.4.5 on the WD.

 

The right way:

make the WD the boot drive (in bios) -

booting the computer with the install dvd -

performing the 10.4.5 install -

while rebooting make that at a certain point you can remove the dvd -

10.4.5 will boot on the WD Raptor (no more blinking cursors, no more black screens, no more strange characters...) -

In a certain step OSX will ask you if you want to import Documents, General Settings, Network Settings, user Profiles etc etc from another disk -

at this point say YES and import from another attached HD -

and i confirm all is working!

 

(added:)

In 10.4.1 i always had problems to connect to other computers in the network.

yes i could see all the computers in Finder,

but when i wanted to connect, it said:

"The alias could not be find".

Now in 10.4.5 i could connect to any share on the network!

 

I will now study these 2 subjects:

1) How to make these network shares persistent,

so when i reboot they are still there.

2) How to join a windows domain with a network account.

 

I hope this information could be useful for other people.

[mengelle]

Hi leoniloilo, i have a similar problem. I bought a 120 Gb WD SATA hardisk, but the OSX DVD installer give me an error when i try to install in the first partition. (I have a ASUS P5GD1-VM mobo it fully support sata drives in OsX)

 

I put my old IDE drive as MASTER and the SATA as SLAVE, now the DVD run perfectly and reconice the SATA drive and the partitions.

 

I install perfectly, but when i reboot (using the SATA HD as MASTER) stuck on a grey screen whit the apple logo!!! Using the -v option gives a black screen (without text, just like you)

 

Any ideas?

[Sabr]

I remember when I had to do this to install 10.4.1 from a Virtual Machine HDD to a physical one.

 

What you had to do was: Install Darwin onto the blank HDD first... Then do the restore Otherwise it would not boot...