Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I hate to bee the noob to do this, but I need help. I recently tried a tutorial from a different site, but when I restarted, the CD wasnt working. So now I am here. I am looking to dual-boot Windows Vista and Mac OS X Leopard. I have a Retail Leopard DVD and I would like to use that to dual-boot if possible. I read this topic (http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=114013) and just got really confused. I honestly have no idea what kexts are and so that really makes that whole thing confusing. Sorry that I am so noob-ish, hopefully I can learn and pass on my knowledge =D My PC info: HP dv6365us pavilion series[laptop] Intel® Core2 CPU T5600 @1.83GHz 160GB HD and 2GB Ram. EDIT: I just used CPUID and my computer supports SSE3, which I think is good.. I am not really sure what else you need to know, if anything, but just ask and tell me what it is located under device manager and I will let you know. Thanks for anything you can help with, Trent J. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I hate to bee the noob to do this, but I need help. I recently tried a tutorial from a different site, but when I restarted, the CD wasnt working. So now I am here. I am looking to dual-boot Windows Vista and Mac OS X Leopard. I have a Retail Leopard DVD and I would like to use that to dual-boot if possible. I read this topic (http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=114013) and just got really confused. I honestly have no idea what kexts are and so that really makes that whole thing confusing. Sorry that I am so noob-ish, hopefully I can learn and pass on my knowledge =D My PC info: HP dv6365us pavilion series[laptop] Intel® Core™2 CPU T5600 @1.83GHz 160GB HD and 2GB Ram. EDIT: I just used CPUID and my computer supports SSE3, which I think is good.. I am not really sure what else you need to know, if anything, but just ask and tell me what it is located under device manager and I will let you know. Thanks for anything you can help with, Trent J. Hi there, The best way to start is to READ CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY.......use Google to find out about any terms etc. that you do not understand.......before asking further questions.......I am sure you get the idea......NO PAIN NO GAIN...... To get you on your way, since your Intel processor is SSE3 capable......read this thread .......and this one ....... and this one here....... Whether for Intel or AMD CPUs they will help you learn and understand more about OS X on your laptop...... If you find you cannot boot from your HDD after installation, then follow the procedure here......to see if that sets up your HDD OS X volume as bootable on its own..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thanks Haxi, I will look into all the information posted and make sure to report back here. After looking at some of that stuff, I am not sure if that is what I need... The iAtkos one says it is only installing, I want to dual boot, and the other two are just for bug fixes I think... I need like a full guide on how to dual-boot, hopefully with a Retail disk.. but if not, no big deal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thanks Haxi, I will look into all the information posted and make sure to report back here. After looking at some of that stuff, I am not sure if that is what I need... The iAtkos one says it is only installing, I want to dual boot, and the other two are just for bug fixes I think... If you read further down the posts on the iATKOS one you will see it then covers dual booting................as I said READ SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY........ I need like a full guide on how to dual-boot, hopefully with a Retail disk.. but if not, no big deal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Haha, I read that now, but actually, I got it working by myself =]]]] The only problem is, when I go to Disk Utility I dont see the unallocated partition =[ Help? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Haha, I read that now, but actually, I got it working by myself =]]]] The only problem is, when I go to Disk Utility I dont see the unallocated partition =[ Help? I normally suggest that the HDD is partitioned as MBR (for greater compatibilty cross system and because it seems to cause fewer issues than GUID for many.......others will have the opposite view) rather than GUID (GPT)......then format the intended OS X volume as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)..... As regards not seeing the unallocated partition, how has your HDD been partitioned....what OS are you wanting to dual boot OS X with....? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Windows Vista Home Premium trying to Dual-Boot with Mac OS X Leopard. [iAktos right now...] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGJulius Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Format your unallocated partition into NTFS and use the disk utility to format the new NTFS partition into HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 How exactly do I format to "NTFS"? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Windows Vista Home Premium trying to Dual-Boot with Mac OS X Leopard. [iAktos right now...] Did you use New partition Wizard to create a Primary Partition in the Unallocated space without formatting it.....your screen shots indicate not......you need to in order to set up a bootable OS X system...... Once you have booted from the OS X DVD you can go into Disk Utility and format this Primary Partition (i.e.unallocated volume) as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).....for a step by step guide see here... You can but there is no need to format the volume as NTFS first.....just to then reformat it as HFS+...... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGJulius Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 In the vista disk management screen right click on your unallocated space and select "new simple volume." Then follow the steps (Select quick format not full format) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ah, ok. I did the quick format and made it a NTFS.. going to boot into Mac OS X! Wish me luck... and thanks everybody! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGJulius Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Anything about creating a volume of some sort. Try expanding your vista partition w/ the unallocated space; shrinking the vista partition (so you have the unallocated space back); and try again Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-851993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 New question, how do I know what number my partition is? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 New question, how do I know what number my partition is? In OS X Terminal diskutil list Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ok, I will make sure to report back to you guys. I am currently installing it.. so the partition thing worked =]]] thanks again.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Now I am stuck.. it says this: " bcdedit /copy {current} /d “Mac OS X” bcdedit /enum active bcdedit /set {GUID} PATH \chain0 In the first command type {current} as it is, literally..nothing else..just {current} with the brackets. In the 3rd command however, replace the {GUID} with the alphanumeric GUID you see in the enumerated list under MAC OS X. You can see this list on your terminal as soon as you type the 2nd command above." I dont know what number it is talking about.. Is it just the number that the Mac OS X think is listed? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Now I am stuck.. it says this: " bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Mac OS X" bcdedit /enum active bcdedit /set {GUID} PATH \chain0 In the first command type {current} as it is, literally..nothing else..just {current} with the brackets. In the 3rd command however, replace the {GUID} with the alphanumeric GUID you see in the enumerated list under MAC OS X. You can see this list on your terminal as soon as you type the 2nd command above." I dont know what number it is talking about.. Is it just the number that the Mac OS X think is listed? How about first trying EasyBCD 1.7.2..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ok, got that working, now when I click on "Mac OS X" from boot-up, it just goes to a screen and says "Chain booting error" Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ok, got that working, now when I click on "Mac OS X" from boot-up, it just goes to a screen and says "Chain booting error" Got what working.....your manual BCD editing or EasyBCD......? For chain booting error see here..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 I did it manually.. but it worked. Ok, so I see this:"sudo dd if=/dev/disk1s2 of=block1 bs=512 count=1 hexdump -x block1" but do I do it EXACTLY like that? or do I need to change some variables? Well, I went out on a limb and tried it how it was, but the command "sudo" and the command "hexdump" are not recognizable =[ I have no idea what to do =[ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I did it manually.. but it worked. Ok, so I see this:"sudo dd if=/dev/disk1s2 of=block1 bs=512 count=1 hexdump -x block1" but do I do it EXACTLY like that? or do I need to change some variables? Well, I went out on a limb and tried it how it was, but the command "sudo" and the command "hexdump" are not recognizable =[ I have no idea what to do =[ from diskutil list you should find details of disks.....BUT sudo is a powerful command not be trifled with unless you know exactly what you are doing AND what each Unix command is doing...... That was why I suggested you try EasyBCD because it works for about 90% of systems/people......if it works for you no more worries about manually editing BCD.....you need only worry if it does not work for you after your repair of the Vista MBR using EasyBCD and setting up of OS X as per the instructions on the web site.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent J. Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Ok, well I am not so sure on what you want me to do with EasyBCD. I kinda understand how to use it, but are you wanting me to completely remove the Mac OS X Partition and start over, or just add a new entry in EasyBCD? Also, check your PM's. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Ok, well I am not so sure on what you want me to do with EasyBCD. I kinda understand how to use it, but are you wanting me to completely remove the Mac OS X Partition and start over, or just add a new entry in EasyBCD? Also, check your PM's. I have PMd you.....you do not need to remove the Mac OX partition provided you can make it bootable after having booted from the OS X install DVD......you then need to refresh the Vista MBR and then set up OS X entry in EasyBCD thereafter......see my PM to you..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGJulius Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Just a quick question are you going to boot os x and vista from the same hdd, if you are just use the Darwin bootload when you install mac os x. It will list all the available partitions on the harddrive os x is on Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/120380-where-to-begin/#findComment-852147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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