latin_l3oi Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hello, I've got Kalyway 10.5.1 working correctly. I'm not sure whether to use bootcamp to install windows xp or just use vmware fusion. Firstly, I mostly do video editing on both Mac and Win XP, so I would like to know if VMWare Fusion would be suitable If I'm going to be video editing/rendering in XP. My PC is an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz, 4GB of RAM. I don't know much about vmware or bootcamp therefore I would like to have opinions of people who know more about this than me . When using vmware fusion, do the changes made in XP get saved on another partition or where abouts are the changes made? Can someone help me, I'm very new to this. Cheers, latin_l3oi Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomparis Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hello, I've got Kalyway 10.5.1 working correctly. I'm not sure whether to use bootcamp to install windows xp or just use vmware fusion. Firstly, I mostly do video editing on both Mac and Win XP, so I would like to know if VMWare Fusion would be suitable If I'm going to be video editing/rendering in XP. My PC is an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz, 4GB of RAM. I don't know much about vmware or bootcamp therefore I would like to have opinions of people who know more about this than me . When using vmware fusion, do the changes made in XP get saved on another partition or where abouts are the changes made? Can someone help me, I'm very new to this. Cheers, latin_l3oi VMware Fusion lets you have the best of both worlds. If you create a bootcamp install you basically have to choose between running OSX or running Windows. There are a small number of good reasons why you'd want to boot Windows natively on your Mac, for example if you were doing highly intensive 3D graphics rendering using a method not supported by Fusion or you just needed the native raw power of your Mac hardware. However, in most use cases including video editing running Windows under a Fusion Virtual Machine works well. Fusion even supports booting your bootcamp disk partition as a Virtual Machine so you can flip flop between booting natively and booting the same Windows install in a VM and all changes and updates are carried over between the two methods. Fusion allows your Windows install to access the OSX files so you can easily share data between OSX and Windows. Fusion v2 is in Beta right now so grab yourself a copy and give it a go. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-821239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
latin_l3oi Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks tomparis, I won't be doing intense 3D graphics rendering, just basic video editing. So I guess vmware fusion would be the way to go. Though, I still don't quite understand when you say vmware fusion supports booting from bootcamp partition, does that mean that the changes made are stored on that partition? One more question, would it then be possible to create more partitions using Windows Disk Management tool within Windows XP? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-821264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obijohn Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Slow down sparky. You say you're going to be doing video editing? Then boot camp is definitely the way to go. Running a VM in fusion is "useable" for everyday stuff like word processing and web browsing or anything that doesn't put a strain on your hardware. Video editing puts a definite strain on your hardware, CPU and GPU. Granted, not as much as ray tracing and 3d rendering, but a strain nonetheless. You can give it a try, but I promise your results will be less than satisfying. However, boot camp allows you to boot into the "pure" OS as it was meant to run on the hardware. The difference is quite measurable. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-821350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
latin_l3oi Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Thanks for the info obijohn, I'll try bootcamp first and then I might give wmware fusion a go. (I like the fact that you can run both at the same time and copy files from one to the other) It is possible to run vmware fusion using the bootcamp partition isn't it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-822158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrock42 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 It is possible to run vmware fusion using the bootcamp partition isn't it? yes. I find that vmware doesn't get all the resources your computer has, so for rendering effects and transitions it might be a little slow compared to running nativly. I use vmware for checking my web designs and ms access, and they got rid of reversi in vista so i still have my old xp machine, which I converted to a vmware image. I fresh installed vista on another drive and use it here and there but I have CS3 master on my mac along with Final Cut Studio. Premiere CS3 will work cross-platform so I dont really need to work in windows for video editing and I think it's just easier to deal mainly with one OS. So what are you using for video editing in windows? Also trying to use vmware on a bootcamped vista isn't great, vmware deemed it experimental, I think it's cause it doesnt meet vista's crazy specs Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-822200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
latin_l3oi Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hi adrock42, I don't quite do much video editing as such (trying to use Mac OS X for that), though I have gotten attached to this video encoding program that I use in Windows which is called: TMPGEnc, it's a good MPEG2 encoder. I like to author videos on DVD, that is why I also use an authoring program called DVD Lab PRO. Those programs I believe are only available to Windows, so that is why I was wondering if I should use vmware fusion or bootcamp. TMPGEnc pretty much just encodes the video with good MPEG2 quality IMO, though it is time consuming. DVDLab Pro offers so much flexibility in authoring DVDs though I don't think it requires much CPU power or memory. Lately I haven't been able to get Adobe Premiere CS3 installed on my windows machine, therefore I'm thinking of switching to Mac programs for video editing (Final Cut Studio). So my overall aim is to edit videos on the Mac OS and encode it with TMPGEnc in Windows XP (won't be using Vista, because it'll eat away valuable RAM) to author it on DVD, would that be a wise choice? What would you recommend? Opinions or suggestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-822355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrock42 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 well, one of the things they do when they spec computers is compare how long it takes for encoding and that kind of stuff. Running in vmware, which doesn't have all of your system resources, will be slower. I'm pretty sure it'll work and if you prefer these applications then this is a great way to use them, and edit video on FCP at the same time. Whats even better is vmware can read HFS so you dont have to go mucking about with FAT32. Does bootcamp do that? I dunno I don't use it. Wine would also be a good choice in theory. I'm not sure if crossover mac works well though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-824770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
latin_l3oi Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hi adrock42, I'm going to try vmware fusion and give it a go. Thanks for your insight, I appreciate it. Cheers, latinl3oi Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-825166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyr Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Use them booth And use your Boot Camp partition with VMware, without reinstalling a new VM. You need *booth* of them. Fusion for every day, and Boot Camp for intensive work, or launch incompatible apps (like most of cool games) If you have a Boot Camp already installed, Fusion auto-detected it and proposes to launch it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-825287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowlaris Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 VMWare Fusion is indeed the best of both world. I am doing lots of LINUX and OSX development and having the ability to run different Distribution (at the same time) on the same box is a real time saver for me. Fusion had some issues and poor performance with the 1.1.2 version, but thanks to Apple and a fix to their IO Stack, the new 1.1.3 is really fast and stable. My 2cent. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/116018-vmware-fusion-vs-bootcamp/#findComment-826537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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