metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 got the "Mac Os X 10 4 4 5 Osx86 Patched Bootable Dvd " from my demonic friend (seeded 18gb!) burnt it on dvd- can boot from it- but i´m getting that stopsign thingy.-that "waiting for root ..." when -v tried the solutions from the wiki: -f -v, -x -v, rd=disk..., .... in the bios i got "ide 0 master hhd maxtor" and "ide 1 slave dvd rom drive" -so that should be correct?! it´s a PackardBell iDesign Shuttle like MediaPc, with a freshly reformatted 120gb maxtor ide drive, running winxp mce2005,C: 20 Gb , D: 88Gb,+7013mb anallocated disk space (using partitionmagic) at the end of the disk, - wich is set af using diskpart in windows- that should be ok?-or not? i got 2 ide cables attached to the mobo, a blue one- that connects to the HDD and a white one which leads to the DVD Rom drive Specs: P4 northwood sse2 412mb ddr333 radeon 9600 exact specs: http://support.packardbell.com/de/mypc/?Pi...Group=2000#show what else did i try: - jumpering the HDD to master -exchanging the ide cables (so that the dvd drive connects to the blue port on the mobo) -in bios: disabling usb, acpi, hyperthreading - in bios: tried nearly every configuration of Master/slave configurations what am i doing wrong.- please tell me i forgot smthg.- been sitting the whole f*n night on this thing i also read something about a 80pin whatever ide cable,... (- something with 80pin...yadda yadda is mentioned when -v) so i always end up with that ""Still waiting for root device" i would have another spare 250gb hdd lying around, if that would help So please give me some hints!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohde Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 First off, what are the messages right before the "Still waiting..."-message? I've had the same problem and the way I solved was: 1. Put the HD as master. 2. Put the HD on its own IDE channel 3. Disable all other IDE devices 4. Disable HyperThreading 5. Install from a USB DVD drive 6. When it hangs during start-up yank out the USB plug and plug into another USB plug. Somehow this wakes it up and "Boot device found" suddenly appears. If you haven't got a USB DVD drive, you can try to yank out the IDE cable when it hangs with the "Waiting for root..." message, and then plug in again, preferably in another IDE channel. This is of course can be qutie dangerous since the computer is turned on. You might get electrocuted and you might destroy your hardware. So, try to see if you can get your hands on a portable DVD player where you can play with the plug when it's looking for the root device (which during the install boot is the DVD). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 thanx for the quick reaction.- i might not want to try the "yank out the ide while under power" method- too scared the thing is: the whole system has just two ide channels.- the whole thing is insanely cramped and thightly arrenged inside. @1.: what do you mean: put.- i jumpered it to "master" and in the bios it says ide 0 Master for my harddisk @2.: there are 2 channels and the dvd drive and the hdd both already have their own connection @3.:hmm.-good one, forgot about that.-what are other ide devices?- you mean like floppy drive? what about the pci tv-card.-shall i disconnet it? @4.: tried many times, will leave it disabled (HT) @5.: dont have one-but: got an external firewire enclosure+ DL DVD burner+ 250GB extra HDD- if that helps @6.: ".. it hangs during start-up"- do you mean the startup of the installation- or booting into the os.- i didn´t make it that far yet so it seems like i do have a portable dvd drive (if thats what you mean is a drive in an external firewire enclosure)- so you mean i should pop the install dvd into the external ecnclosure and (can it boot from firewire drives?!?) and while install loads (that darwin text) pull it out and back in? thank you so much for the help, i really appreciate it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohde Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 If I understand you correctly you have your HD on one IDE channel and the DVD drive form which you're trying to install on another, rigth? If that's the case that might be your problem. The HD and the DVD needs to be on the same IDE connector. And the HD needs to be jumped as master. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 If I understand you correctly you have your HD on one IDE channel and the DVD drive form which you're trying to install on another, rigth? If that's the case that might be your problem. The HD and the DVD needs to be on the same IDE connector. And the HD needs to be jumped as master. ok. it´s so hard to see something inside this case.- but yeah- that´s what i´m lead to believe,- i can see two ide cables coming from the motherboard that are coloured differently (one´s standard white/grey, and the other one is more like brown, those two lead to one ide device each) sound good what you´re saying.- so i should buy an ide cable that has "3" outlets- so that one end starts at the blue ideport on the mobo and leads halfway to the hdd and at the end to the dvd drive? -did i understand correctly? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohde Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 No, no you don't need to buy anything. Just make sure that the IDE cable that connects your HD is the same that connects your DVD drive. There should be two connectors on each of your IDE cables. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 No, no you don't need to buy anything. Just make sure that the IDE cable that connects your HD is the same that connects your DVD drive. There should be two connectors on each of your IDE cables. is it possible that there really are just ONE on each cable.- thats how the system came preconfigured,- because there are 2 cables going from the mobo to the two devices,....but! i just happen to have one of these lying around: http://www.cables4pc.com/ebay/raid%20card/raid-2.jpg is this what you mean,. -seems to make sense to me,. so should i replace the original cables with this single cable and thus have both ide devices (dvd+hdd) hanging on a single ide cable- (damn,- if that would work and i could install, i´d be the happiest guy around!!) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 ok. now i exchanged the ide original cables and replaced themm with a single cable that now leads from the blue ide connector on the mobo to the hhd and then end in the dvd rom drive with the disk inserted: (windows boots fine) in my bios i got: (under standard cmos features): -ide channel 0 MAster Maxtor 6y120lo -ide channel 0 Slave hitachi dvd-rom gd-2 <is that correct?- i think thats the way you meant it. do i have to check anything else in the bios? or boot using somekind of parameters? ---------- status report ---------- watching the grey apple screen for 10mins, wheel is spinning. i heard that it is normal to take some time, but here neither teh hdd nor the dvd drive seem to be actually doing something.damn what could it be? well for the first time, the stop sign doesnt appear what can i do? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallican Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 ok. using "-v" sam multimedia: read or write failed, asc =0x11, ascq= 0x00 comes up a few times then: .../etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode then nothing happens what does that mean? pleeeeease help. anybody? share your wisdom -----------------------------------------edit using -v it did the above thingy for about 30 mins. now i am presented a light blue screen with the mousecursor sitting in the upper left corner-mouse does react on mouse input.-nothing happens what does that mean and what can i do? ---------------------------------------------- Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohde Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Well, I'm not familiar with the particular error message you're reporting. Try booting with -v as you have described and then copy the last text messages written on the screen berfore it halts and paste them here. Also, try to boot into safemode (-x). Maybe that helps. Also, since I can see whe've got the same CPU (Northwood) maybe it's your chipset that's been giving you sompe problems. Check the hardware compatibility list to see if your particular chipset is supported. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11474-p4-sse2-ide-native-install/#findComment-72309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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