NFORCE4 AMD + nVidia 8600GT

[wahwahman89]

Hi,

I upgraded one of my mate's computers from NForce3 to NForce4 the other day while keeping the same processor. The reason for this was that one of the fastest cards for the AGP bus nowadays is the 6800GT and that's what he had, so we made sure that he made a cheap switch to PCI-e.

I didn't change anything in his installation, just popped my 100% working *8800GT* working on my INTEL quad rig into his computer to try it out. There was no QE/CI. Upon installing the kexts from various installers, i got a kernel panic every time on the NVDARESMAN.kext.

So exact same card works on Intel, doesn't work on NForce4 for AMD. The 8600GT is arriving tomorrow and I assume the same problems will spring up as I assume the nVidia kexts are encrypted. I also tried to use Marvin's AMD Utility but couldn't get to grips with it cos I never needed to use it before.

 

Anyone, any hints?

 

Much obliged!

 

P.S.: I've searched around the forums and found various 'solutions' such as removing parts of strings in info.plists and trying to decrypt, but it all failed. Pointers are also highly appreciated, maybe I just can't search for s*** :-).

P.P.S.: Specs: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (SSE3), tried Zeph's AMD-EFI-10.5.2 as well as Leo4All v2/v3, 2.5GB RAM in 4 modules, MSI Neo Platinum NForce4 for AMD, the card is 8800GT which wouldn't work but tomorrow the 8600GT is coming *for him* so we're concentrating on that one.

[spacklewoof]

See this thread:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry759250

 

They are not compressed. Just search for your card's ID inside the executeable.

 

There are many reasons why the card many not work as expected on AMD as it did on Intel. Maybe Chu-Nan's PCIFamily kexts would help?

 

Just to be straight, You went from NForce3 Intel to NForce4 AMD? Or was it simply NForce3 AMD to NForce4 AMD?

In any case, I would start with Chu-Nan's excellent work.

 

Make sure you change the devid's everywhere, etc...

 

good luck

[wahwahman89]

Cheers man, checking that out now and will post back results. I went from NForce3 AMD to NForce 4 AMD.I'm unsure what the PCIFamily kexts actually do. I've never needed to modify anything related to those.Cheers manCheers man, checking that out now and will post back results. I went from NForce3 AMD to NForce 4 AMD.I'm unsure what the PCIFamily kexts actually do. I've never needed to modify anything related to those.Cheers man

[wahwahman89]

As guessed, same problems with the new card. Please - anyone got any ideas?

[wahwahman89]

Guys? Please? HELP!!!!

[sciencefictionado]

Guys? Please? HELP!!!!

Guys? Please? HELP!!!!

I think I can help you. I have an 8800gt and 8600gt, on an nfore570 board with an athlon 5400+. I have tried MANY nvinject packages but only 1 will work on my system. All others will either render the OS completly unusable (as was the case yesterday when I fubar'd my system with NVinstall.41) or I get kernel panics at boot from nvdaresman.kext and geforce.kext unil i trash them. The only installer that has ever worked for my computer is punk92's v1.9 installer

http://loadingvault.com/search.php?m=installer

I havent tried 2.0 yet, i'm going to right now. It is suppoes to have better performance for the 8000 series.

 

EDIT: I just tried 2.0 and it works and it gives me an extra 10 to 20 fps in games! Awesome! Near parity with windowsxp graphics performance. So install punk92's 2.0 not 1.9

 

First however, you need to delete geforce.kext and nvdaresman.kext to get into osx so you can run this installer.

There are 2 ways of doing this:

1.hold down f8 at startup and enter "-x" (safe mode) without quotes to boot into safe mode, then delete these files (system/library/extensions/) this might not be an option for you if your working with a fresh installation, I know on my copmuter I get stuck in a weird loop during the user setup process, if I'm in safe mode.

 

2.If for some reason you cant even get into safe mode,

at startup instead of using the boot flag "-x" use the flag "-s" (single user mode) when you get into shell,

type "/sbin/mount -uw /" without quotes and hit return

Now type "sudo rm -d /system/library/extensions/nvdaresman.kext" and hit return

then tpye "sudo rm -d /system/library/extensions/geforce.kext" and hit return

if the -d flags dont work then use -rf, but very very careful as you can easily delete lots of important stuff with this.

Now type "reboot" and dont enter any bootflags, you should get to your desktop in no time flat.

 

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!! Punk92's installer isnt idiot proof. You NEED to click the custom button in this installer and and check the nvinject that corresponds to your GPU's vram. Do not mix and match nvinjects or system kexts from other installers. I tried this yesterday with 4 different nvidia packages and I could only get punk92's nvinject version and the kexts in his installer to work in tandem. When I installed the nvinstaller .41 and it didn't work, punk92's would not bring my system back, and I had to do a clean install, so if your friend's computer has the same issue mine does then stay away from nvinstaller .41

 

I have excellent stability and graphics performance is about 75% of what it is in windowsxp, but that could be on acount of opengl being slower than directx and not my drivers. I'm designing 3d graphics and a video game, so I'm really pushing my systems stability. I went for the nvinstaller .41 because I was greedy and I paid for it in suffering.

If it aint broke, dont fix it.

[wahwahman89]

I think its needless to say that YOU ARE A LEGEND AND HAVE FIXED IT!!!!! I now have QE/CI/OpenGL and ROCK SOLID performance without a hitch.

 

Thank you SO SO much for your help and moreso the ultra-detailed guide.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!

[sciencefictionado]

I think its needless to say that YOU ARE A LEGEND AND HAVE FIXED IT!!!!! I now have QE/CI/OpenGL and ROCK SOLID performance without a hitch.

 

Thank you SO SO much for your help and moreso the ultra-detailed guide.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!

 

No problemo man!

Without Punk92 we would be lost. I wonder what exactly it is that is so different about his nvinject. My hunch is that it is related to how it interacts with the nforce drivers, but only punk92 could tell you. Unfortunately his website is all in spanish- freaking curse of babylon. He has a new 3.0 installer but it is a beta version, some people have had major issues with it, and to my knowledge it doesnt really provide anything different besides more versions of nvinject than 2.0 does.

Test it at your own risk, but I'm sticking with the 2.0 right now.

 

Also, if in the future everything on your screen locks up except for the mouse pointer, yet the computer is obviously still working (music keeps playing, or hard drive is accessing normally) please let me know. This is a problem that occurs for me from time to time and I found that not installing the new quicktime/itunes patch reduces its occurance significantly. It happens to me when I am using many applications at once and I quickly drag a window somewhere. I don't think it is a problem with my setup or even the hackintosh since there are thousands of complaints about this symptom and the resulting error code (nvchannel error) on real apple user sites, including apple.com http://www.google.com/search?q=nvchannel

 

Apple has not addressed this issue in over a year. It seems that, with every year that goes by, Apple is dropping its classical computer audience like a bad habit, in favor of ipods, techno-weenies who swoon for apple commercials, and hardware/software that's about as stable as Windows ME.

Forgive my ranting. I've been using Macs for a long time and I feel like Jar Jar Binx, realizing for the first time that the glorious Republic is done for, in all but name, and just how awesome the power of the Microsoft of The Force is.

[wahwahman89]

I haven't had any issues whatsoever with my MacBook Pro so I guess my opinion of Apple is different. I love them to bits and love how they really care about their customers and fix bugs swiftly. In this case, I would be far more inclined to say that it is the fault of NVidia not Apple. Such problems are especially prominent on Linux and who provides drivers... NVidia. I know its not the same case with Apple (as they make the kexts) but NVidia are just pushing innovation (i.e. Ageia PhysX chip integrated, faster dual GPU units, now with Geforce 10 apparently on board sound, etc) but in fact they are making worse and worse products. Anyway.

I noticed that ONCE. I also noticed that when running DOOM3, the hard disk seemed to work and do something, there was sound, but a black screen. Fix: Plug your monitor into the other port. Everything is fixed now. It also seemed to happen when downloading 10MB/sec or faster over ethernet, also fixed by plugging into the other port.

Hope that helps!