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Hello Everyone - Previously posted this question in the new user's lounge... looking for further insight in this forum.

 

I would like to build a dual boot workstation rig. Planning on running Adobe CS and Avid on Windows 7 and FCP and Resolve on OSX. Best case senario I'd like to be able to work with 4K material.

 

After doing some some research I'm almost decided on using the following hardware.

 

CPU: 4930K

System Board: ASUS P9X79-E WS

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory

Storage: 2x SSD Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB (one for each os)

              4x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM in Raid

Raid: HighPoint RocketRAID 2700

GPU: GTX 780 3GB

PSU: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

I guess my first question is, how feasable is my goal given the hardware I've chosen above?

 

Another issue I am concerned with is CPU power and long term productivity. Having said that, I am thinking of perhaps going with the GA-Z87X-UD7-TH due to the possibility of upgrading to the Haswell-E chip when it arrives later this year. I also like it's Thunderbolt availability, which as of yet I do not know if a hak rig would even support.

 

So I guess thats the main point of concern for me at this moment.  Which socket do I go with and If go with an LGA 1150 board which CPU do I get to hold me over until the Haswell-E arrives.

 

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions or thoughts.



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Have you thought of going to PCIE SSD? They cost more, but are more reliable, faster, and use less power.(Although very little power difference!) 

 

If you're looking to work with 4k editing, I would recommend going at least 6 core series i7, or a socket 2011 setup for the quad channel memory. How much are you looking at for a budget?



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I actually haven't considered going with PCIE SSD, something to think about while I decide on the chipset.

 

I guess If I want to put this thing together sooner than later I should go ahead and choose the 4930K on the 2011 ASUS p9x79-E WS MoBO. Rather than wait for the replacement Ivy Bridge E  in the 8 Core Haswell E.

 

The motherboard mentioned above supports the quad chan 2133 kit I am looking at ({censored}: :rolleyes: currently out of stock on newegg), just not sure if this will all work in the FCP OSX set up. Lookinig at a budget of 3.5k more or less. Since this will be for work purposes I need as much stability as possible.

 

I know for the budget I have... I can go Mac Pro but, I'd like to upgrade and expand in the future, not to mention the internal strage capability I am afforded going this route.



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I'd look for maybe the last Mac Pro tower, CPU's you can upgrade, ram you can upgrade, memory, and gpu when a company makes one compatible with Mac systems. The new Mac Pro you can upgrade the cpu and memory, and the gpu's come apart as a daughter board but we don't know if any companies will make any replacements since we don't know if Apple is going to release it as a standard with their hardware...If they do for that zif socket, then the replacement cards would probably be super expensive! Not to mention you have to get one with the pcie slot for the ssd, so that one would probably be more!

 

Rant over! :D

 

In all honesty I would probably go with the Mac Pro. Upgrading it won't be the best considered what you're limited on, but with that you are guaranteed stability, support, updates work with no issue, no risk for a business use. Specs probably won't be as fast as what you could build yourself, but again no risk with business. 

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116939 i7 4930k $580

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813188130 EVGA x79 Classified $265

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231562 G.Skill Ripjaw X 32gb ddr3 1866(most of these x79 boards if not all only support up to 32gb. Plus this is fast memory!) $310

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226454 Mushkin Enhanced 480gb PCIE $540 Just split the partitions down the middle, fast fast drive!

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822178302 Seagate Constellation 3tb $275 I would rather pop 2 of these in raid instead of 4 2tb drives, those aren't bad but the Constellation has 128mb of cache at 7200 rpm, and Raid0 is pretty secure as well with these! So let's say 2 of them for $550.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125473 Geforce 770 4gb $370

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811139024 Corsair 750d ATX $160 I'm biased towards Corsair products, they're amazing! 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139055 Corsair RM750 750w 80% + efficiency Modular $130

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835181032 Corsair h100 watercooling Rad system $110

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835100007 Arctic Silver 5 silver based thermal paste $9

 

$3024!

Went with the 770 since memory would be what you need more, the x290 from AMD has 6gb of memory but I'm not too sure on how driver support is for that under osX right now.

You can do a few things still with it, upping the storage, getting an optical drive. Other than, only thing I could think of is go workstation, and sacrifice cpu clocks for cpu cores and threads and go multi cpu Xeon.



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Thanks a lot for putting that together, it certainly gives me some other options I had not thought of. I actually considered looking into the Mac Pro towers as I had seen some on the apple refurb page. Possibly time to revist that notion.

 

As for the build you've put together. Should I decide to go with a my own buld, I will definately for with a 4930K and a board with a decent amount of PCI Express 16 lanes giving me plenty of options should I need add or upgreade anythinig. Not sure if the x79 classified beats the Asus in that respect, I'd also like a board that can handle 64gb of RAM. 

 

Also a bit concerned about having both operating systems on the same SSD, should there be any issues I'd rather seperate the drives. Might have to consider another GPU other than the  780 above due to issues with the Revision B. of that same model. Perhaps the 770 doesnt have the same issuen unless its revision B. all across the 7 xx line. Ram-wise I  think I can live with 32 with the option to go to 64gb.

 

Again like I mentioned before, all this would be great if I can expect a solid performance on both platforms.

 

 

 

Other than that all of the rest seems solid.



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Few cents, if I may. :)

 

I'd go for more powerful true hardware RAID card. Since 4K video would be "eating" disk space quite fast and more disk space would be needed in no time. More powerful RAID card could be more future proof. IMO



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Please, any suggestion is more than welcome.

 

I think you're right about the more robust card ATM im looking for something that will fit into my budget but also work on both platforms. Perhaps I need to investigate other cards besides the HighPoint RocketRAID 2700. Any particulpar cards you may be able to suggest?

 

As per your disk space suggestion, I could probably go with something bigger or more HDD's. As of now I'm thinking of addressing that by storing off-site on external drives, save for the projects I would be working at any particular time.



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... Any particulpar cards you may be able to suggest?

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Thanks for the heads-up!



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You could cut costs on the build by taking out the disk drives and replacing it with a smaller cheaper and local drive, then use some of you budget to build a cheap NAS system that you could access from different machines.





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