dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Same system, same card, Snow returns half the score in xbench compared to Leo... not sure where to start, im scared of messing it up... anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Have you got hardware acceleration (if dvd player opens & you can move pieces in chess you have) Anyway how does it feel copying files, opening windows etc. My mobo according to xbench & geekbench is slower, but its a hell of a lot quicker than under leopard it also says I have a core solo but in activity manager the two cores are working. I would not worry about what xbench says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Have you got hardware acceleration (if dvd player opens & you can move pieces in chess you have) Anyway how does it feel copying files, opening windows etc. My mobo according to xbench & geekbench is slower, but its a hell of a lot quicker than under leopard it also says I have a core solo but in activity manager the two cores are working. I would not worry about what xbench says hey dave. not sure what to say now, kinda feels ok now... like something kicked in, i made sure i had acceleration from the start, profiler looked good, chess worked, but the UI felt slugish, so i ran xbench to see how it went, had comparable 3x lower score to comparable graphics cards, i was thinking something is not right... the tests looks kinda ok now, still lower than comparable setup, but the UI feels better, only OpenGL is still scary low numbers. I too have some problems with the FSB and Ram speeds on this setup, i cant disable SpeedStep in bios, read something here... http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31650 about a ACPICPUThrottle.kext wich lets you setup your cpu with the right speeds, maybe theres something in it. Also wondering why Snow is running my 2.6Ghz on 2.2Ghz.. FSB is about 300mhz lower and the ram is 800mhz but running on 667Mhz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 There was a post yesterday about disabling speedstep, no answers though have a look at the other post maybe an answer will come along http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1990 this for leopard maybe it would work in snow http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=199086 wonder if you could remove or edit the AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 There was a post yesterday about disabling speedstep, no answers thoughhave a look at the other post maybe an answer will come along http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1990 this for leopard maybe it would work in snow http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=199086 wonder if you could remove or edit the AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext removing AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext doesnt seem to have any affect. Will put it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 removing AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext doesnt seem to have any affect. Will put it back Damm oh well maybe the speed throttler kext will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Damm oh well maybe the speed throttler kext will work wich one? update; for the geforce, i followed this guide http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89001 got the gfx card EFI string and added it in the boot.pblist, removed the nvinject and everything seems snappy. really think that is the best option in adding a gfx card. let me know if you find something about the 10.6 system throttling, or a way to get the system running on standard clocks. weird that theres no threads about a fix to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 wich one? update; for the geforce, i followed this guide http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=89001 got the gfx card EFI string and added it in the boot.pblist, removed the nvinject and everything seems snappy. really think that is the best option in adding a gfx card. let me know if you find something about the 10.6 system throttling, or a way to get the system running on standard clocks. weird that theres no threads about a fix to that. Sorry I lost the link, now I can't find it. It was in this forum, was for leopard. Was a speed throttler kext & you set it to max & it disabled speedstep Yep efi string is my preferred method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Sorry I lost the link, now I can't find it. It was in this forum, was for leopard. Was a speed throttler kext & you set it to max & it disabled speedstep Yep efi string is my preferred method this is over my head but see if you can make something out of that dave, looks like theres a speedstep application for that powermanagement kext http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=123774 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 this is over my head but see if you can make something out of that dave, looks like theres a speedstep application for that powermanagement kexthttp://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=123774 Seems like a complicated arrangement to do what you want to do, simply disable speedstep. Changes too many parameters of the system for my liking. (Like having application enhancer on your system just to have a clear dock when it can be done manually.) Heres another link http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=119370 Its for tiger, on last page one for leopard. Again complicated for what you want this clear dock btw. IMO don't ever install anything that needs application enhancer to run I haven't got a laptop, but a friend is going to hackintosh has so will be keeping an eye out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 one question tho, do i have to do some spesial routine to delete the kext from the system or am i safe with deleting the kext in finder, running kext utility and booting with -f? i was thinking maybe the cpupowermanagement is still enabled... i dont see how speedstep is still enabled on the system after deleting the kext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 one question tho, do i have to do some spesial routine to delete the kext from the system or am i safe with deleting the kext in finder, running kext utility and booting with -f? i was thinking maybe the cpupowermanagement is still enabled... i dont see how speedstep is still enabled on the system after deleting the kext. Thats how i delete kexts, move to trash, run kext utility there is a power management bundle in library/systemconfiguration . You could try deleting that or see whats in it plist & edit & another plist in the resources of that bundle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Thats how i delete kexts, move to trash, run kext utility there is a power management bundle in library/systemconfiguration . You could try deleting that or see whats in it plist & edit & another plist in the resources of that bundle good morning. things are falling apart here, the nvidia EFI doesnt really work in Snow, now i get blue screens... putting nvinject back, think it has something to do with hdmi... and all of sudden, my SnowLeopard partition is gone from Finder in both Snow and Leo, i have to launch the partition from Disk Utility. third, i dont have any files in /Extra folder for the chameleon loader.... i just read up i should up new kexts and files here... so i got my self new files for a new install and i guess this is the way it goes, time for new install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdave54 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 good morning. things are falling apart here, the nvidia EFI doesnt really work in Snow, now i get blue screens... putting nvinject back, think it has something to do with hdmi... and all of sudden, my SnowLeopard partition is gone from Finder in both Snow and Leo, i have to launch the partition from Disk Utility. third, i dont have any files in /Extra folder for the chameleon loader.... i just read up i should up new kexts and files here... so i got my self new files for a new install and i guess this is the way it goes, time for new install. I have clean installed many times, luckily i have 3 external disks (one adapter) for backup. I can only offer moral support,am going to follow the post. Am sure others are more qualified to help, don't think I really helped here, but pm me if you think I can be of assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekz Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 I have clean installed many times, luckily i have 3 external disks (one adapter) for backup. I can only offer moral support,am going to follow the post. Am sure others are more qualified to help, don't think I really helped here, but pm me if you think I can be of assistance well, i reinstalled, with a little bit of more knowledge of how things works, it went better, concerning nvida, i think im set on using it how it was to start with, no nvinject and no EFI. use the chameleon option, it works out of the box and good for no. i think EFI is the way to go... but until i upgrade my system, and new nvidia plists comes out, im set with Chameleon GraphicsEnabler, profiler reports right values, screen resolutions are off but i know how to add custom ones... 4th day on configuring now, gotta take the system for a test and see how it is... thanks dave, ill be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juuva Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hi dekz, Are you any closer to figuring out your issue? I have a similar problem (my current specs in sig).. After moving from Kalyway 10.5.4 to SL 10.6.0 / .1 (.2 breaks my wifi.. another story).... I noticed that the graphics were not as snappy in some parts of the OS. These in particular are - when time machine slides the desktop down (it stutters at half the frame rate) and when I right click in the side bar of a finder and load preferences, when I click between tabs, the window resizes vertically horribly slowly and stuttery... yet, when other windows (system preferences for example) change their window size, it is perfectly smooth. I to have no idea where to start. Using tseug guide, with DSDT method, and tried using EFI method but am getting the same results. To be honest its enough to drive me back to 10.5. I cant figure it out myself, and this is the first thread I have come accross with a similar problem description. Would appreciate anyone else offering advice... PS: To clarify, chess, fast user switch, widget ripple etc etc all work... just random windows here and there that don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermx3 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 all my stuff works but my performance is a bit slower in 3d than it was in leo, but its no biggies, EFI strings dont work for me and i get the same performance with either and injector or chameleon graphics enabler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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