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Shigun
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Ok, question. I know i'm probably missing something, but I will detail out what I did.

 

200GB IDE HDD on a DFI Lanparty Ultra-D motherboard.

 

Booted up, erased and partitioned it for OSX, installed. Rebooted (though it wouldn't reboot, it just showed the looping circle). Started up my computer and.....nothing. It never boots. Just hangs.

 

Now, to note, it seemed to take quite a long time to startup and install. A good 5 - 10 minutes starting, and another 30 - 35 minutes installing (without the printer drivers and additional languages)

 

Any help?

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Xopek
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Hello have near to same problem:

Installed OSX 10.4.8 intel sse3

Have 1 SATA HDD 250GB

c: - winxp 50gb

d: - soft and games (ntfs 80GB)

e: - OSX 105GB

 

everything was fine during OSX setup. But after reboot I got message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device..."

 

Before install I made disk0s6 as main form Terminal (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Simple_Dual_Boot).

 

So i don't see darwin bootloader ;-(

 

I have Intel Core 2 duo E6300 .

Xopek
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Terminal -> diskutil list

/dev/disk0

0: Fdisk_partition_scheme *232.9 GB disk0

1: Windows_NTFS 37,1 GB disk0s1

2: Windows_NTFS 85,9 GB disk0s5

3: Apple_HFS 109.8 GB disk0s6

 

Terminal -> fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0

# id .....

*1: 07 ..... HPFS/QNX/AUX

2: 05 ..... Extended DOS

3: 00 ..... unused

4: 00 ..... unused

 

I need to tipe "f 1" or other number ?

Rammjet
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Hello have near to same problem:

Installed OSX 10.4.8 intel sse3

Have 1 SATA HDD 250GB

c: - winxp 50gb

d: - soft and games (ntfs 80GB)

e: - OSX 105GB

 

everything was fine during OSX setup. But after reboot I got message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device..."

 

Before install I made disk0s6 as main form Terminal (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Simple_Dual_Boot).

 

So i don't see darwin bootloader ;-(

 

I have Intel Core 2 duo E6300 .

First get it running, then worry about the bootloader.

 

What packages did you select in the Customize window during installation? No, you cannot select all of them because they will conflict. Select the Combo update, the Intel SSE3 Semthex, and the 10.4.4 Login Window. For the others, click on the line and read what they are for. Only select ones that you are positive your computer can use.

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?act...ost&id=6330

 

Also, during boot, try using the boot options: -v cpus=1

 

To enter the boot options, as soon as you boot the OSX partition, the screen will turn black and then grey with a spinning icon. As soon as it turns black, press and hold (or tap quickly and repeatedly) the F8 key until you see a command prompt. If you get the grey screen, you missed it, try again. Type those parameters at the command prompt.

 

When you get running, you can reveal the Darwin bootloader by setting the Timeout parameter in boot.plist.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?act...st&p=243116

Xopek
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I don't know how (press f8 as you told me) I got windows boot menu few minutes ago. So now I'm ander WindowsXP pro 64 bit (c drive).

What shall I do now to run the OSX from other drive?

 

I don't select any packages. OSX installer asked ony to choose drive , then I saw an installation process about 15 minutes.

Rammjet
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To the far left of the Install button, there is a Customize button. Click it and then click the little arrow beside the JaS 10.4.8 patches. In the picture, when you are in Customize, the Customize button then says Easy Install.

 

So, you need to reinstall. Boot the DVD and then go to the Utilities menu and select Disk Utility. Select your OSX partition and Erase it as MacOS Extended Journaled. Quit Disk Utility. Select your partition for installation. Click the Customize button. Select packages and then click the Install button. You can click the Skip button when it "checks your DVD".

Rammjet
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PS No way to use both cores of the Intel core 2 duo e6300 CPU?

When you get installed, try both ways. Boot without the cpus=1 and see if things work and that you don't get hesitation and freezes. Otherwise boot with cpus=1. If you have to boot with cpus=1 all the time, then add it to your boot.plist file.

Shigun
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Make sure u have installed the relavent patches

 

Dont install both AMD and intel patched

 

choose the right ones.

Ie If u have intell proc with sse3 choose the right option and if its ss2 there is an option for that not all of em

 

I am using Tubgirl's OSX 10.4.8 AMD SSE3 iso. I have an AMD Opteron 165 Dual Core.

 

what install disk are you using ?

what's your CPU ?

when you try to boot your installed OS X, precisely when does it hang ? Do you see the darwin bootloader ? Are you using another bootloader ?

 

- See Above Response

- Same

- I never see the Darwin Bootloader. The computer goes through the BIOS messages, goes to the next screen (normally where it shows "Boot From CD: ", cycles past that, then.....nothing. Just stops.

 

First get it running, then worry about the bootloader.

 

What packages did you select in the Customize window during installation? No, you cannot select all of them because they will conflict. Select the Combo update, the Intel SSE3 Semthex, and the 10.4.4 Login Window. For the others, click on the line and read what they are for. Only select ones that you are positive your computer can use.

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?act...ost&id=6330

 

- See Above Responses. Only package I used (Available, NV40 and ATI) was the NV40, due to my Nvidia 6800 Ultra PCI-E card.

 

 

Also, during boot, try using the boot options: -v cpus=1

 

To enter the boot options, as soon as you boot the OSX partition, the screen will turn black and then grey with a spinning icon. As soon as it turns black, press and hold (or tap quickly and repeatedly) the F8 key until you see a command prompt. If you get the grey screen, you missed it, try again. Type those parameters at the command prompt.

 

When you get running, you can reveal the Darwin bootloader by setting the Timeout parameter in boot.plist.

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?act...st&p=243116

 

Never do get this far (as stated, cant boot after install).

Rammjet
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OSX starta normaly, but if I remove DVD from the drive I see "Reboot and Select proper Boot device..." agian and again.

Set the OSX partition active. Use any Windows/Linux disk/partition utility or use Fdisk in OSX: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=22844

Xopek
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Rammjet

 

3. Determine which disk your MacOSX partition is on

...

I see: disk0s6

 

Terminal -> diskutil list

/dev/disk0

0: Fdisk_partition_scheme *232.9 GB disk0

1: Windows_NTFS 37,1 GB disk0s1

2: Windows_NTFS 85,9 GB disk0s5

3: Apple_HFS 109.8 GB disk0s6

 

 

5. Determine which partition for MacOSX needs to be set "Active"

Type p

 

Verify which partition is for MacOSX (1, 2, 3, etc.) - HOW CAN I DO IT?

 

I see:

# id .....

*1: 07 ..... HPFS/QNX/AUX

2: 05 ..... Extended DOS

3: 00 ..... unused

4: 00 ..... unused

 

But I still get the problem with booting ;-(.

 

 

PS Rammjet, How you installed "10.4.8 with old 8.4.1 kernel" ?

I have DVD with "JaS Intel SSE3 Only" v1 I think.

Shigun
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Rammjet

 

3. Determine which disk your MacOSX partition is on

...

I see: disk0s6

 

Terminal -> diskutil list

/dev/disk0

0: Fdisk_partition_scheme *232.9 GB disk0

1: Windows_NTFS 37,1 GB disk0s1

2: Windows_NTFS 85,9 GB disk0s5

3: Apple_HFS 109.8 GB disk0s6

5. Determine which partition for MacOSX needs to be set "Active"

Type p

 

Verify which partition is for MacOSX (1, 2, 3, etc.) - HOW CAN I DO IT?

 

I see:

# id .....

*1: 07 ..... HPFS/QNX/AUX

2: 05 ..... Extended DOS

3: 00 ..... unused

4: 00 ..... unused

 

But I still get the problem with booting ;-(.

PS Rammjet, How you installed "10.4.8 with old 8.4.1 kernel" ?

I have DVD with "JaS Intel SSE3 Only" v1 I think.

 

Type in this:

 

fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0

p (ensure that the HPFS partition is indeed partition 1)

f 1 (where 1 is the number of the HPFS partition, be it 1, 2, 3, etc)

write (if it asks to confirm, say y)

exit

 

Then reboot

Rammjet
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Here is a sample session.

 

The guide says to do it from Terminal after you boot the install DVD. That is what is shown here.

 

If you try to do it from Terminal in OSX, you must prefix the "fdisk" command with "sudo" as in:

sudo fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0

 

When you boot the install DVD, there are 3 RAM disks created. The disk list shows them too.

 

-bash-2.05b# diskutil list										   <=== type this	  
/dev/disk0
  #:				   type name			   size	  identifier
  0: FDisk_partition_scheme					*372.6 GB disk0	  <--- disk 0
  1:			 DOS_FAT_32 WINXP			  10.0 GB   disk0s1
  2:			  Apple_HFS MacOSX			 16.0 GB   disk0s2	<--- let's make active
  3:			  Apple_HFS OSX Test		   10.0 GB   disk0s3
  4:			  Apple_HFS Data			   336.6 GB  disk0s4
/dev/disk1
  #:				   type name			   size	  identifier
  0: Apple_partition_scheme					*4.4 GB   disk1	  <--- disk 1 - install DVD
  1:	Apple_partition_map					31.5 KB   disk1s1
  2:			  Apple_HFS JaS OS 10.4.7	  4.4 GB	disk1s3
/dev/disk2
  #:				   type name			   size	  identifier
  0:						untitled		   *467.0 KB disk2	  <--- RAM disk 
/dev/disk3																for boot DVD
  #:				   type name			   size	  identifier
  0:						untitled		   *95.0 KB  disk3	  <--- RAM disk
/dev/disk4																for boot DVD
  #:				   type name			   size	  identifier
  0:						untitled		   *95.0 KB  disk4	  <--- RAM disk
-bash-2.05b# fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0									<=== type this (disk 0)																											   
Enter 'help' for information
fdisk: 1> p														  <=== type this
Disk: /dev/rdisk0	   geometry: 48641/255/63 [781422768 sectors]
Offset: 0	   Signature: 0xAA55
	 Starting	   Ending
#: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [	 start -	   size]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: 0B	0   1   1 - 1023 254  63 [		63 -   20964762] Win95 FAT-32
2: AF 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [  20964825 -   33591915] HFS+	<--- let's make active (part. 2)   
*3: AF 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [  54556740 -   20996955] HFS+		
4: AF 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [  75553695 -  705863970] HFS+		
fdisk: 1> f 2														<=== type this (partition 2)
Partition 2 marked active.
fdisk:*1> write													  <=== type this
Device could not be accessed exclusively.
A reboot will be needed for changes to take effect. OK? [n] Y		<=== type this
Writing MBR at offset 0.
fdisk: 1> exit													   <=== type this

Shigun
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1: 0B 0 1 1 - 1023 254 63 [ 63 - 20964762] Win95 FAT-32

2: AF 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 20964825 - 33591915] HFS+ <--- let's make active (part. 2)

*3: AF 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 54556740 - 20996955] HFS+

4: AF 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 75553695 - 705863970] HFS+

 

Mine never show up as HFS+ though. I always get (normally) <Unknown Partition>, even though the format within the setup seems to go perfectly fine.

Rammjet
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That's why when you partition you are supposed to give the partition the ID = AF which tells it that it is HFS+. See the AF on the left?

 

A common mantra provided here to newbies for setting up for installation is:
  • Make the partition Primary
  • Make the partition ID=AF (signifies an HFS partition)
  • Make the partition Active

Rammjet
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When you create a partition using a Window/Linux disk/partition utility, you can set the partitions ID.

 

I think you can do it using Fdisk, but have never done it.

 

In the session to set active, instead of "f 2" to set partition 2 as active, you would (I believe) do the following: "setpid 2 AF" (or something like that)

 

Edit: I checked - you "setpid 2" then another line pops up where you would type "AF".

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