Loanstar Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Okay, Well, I have won the battle and thought I'd share what I did. Maybe it is interesting to some and maybe not to others, but what the hell eh? I run a home-made peecee with an Asus P5E (plain Jane version) mainboard, 2 GB of ram, and I HAD an Asus Nvidia 7600GS graphics card in this box. but that turned out to be the hurdle I could not clear. I am now running Ideneb 1.3, (10.5.5) on this box and it is as close to, what I would call perfect, as ever!!!1! Here is what I did. About two weeks ago, I backed all my stuff up to my external Lacie FW drive. All my important stuff went there. My pics, my music, my taxes, etc. Then I simply booted up with the Ideneb distro in the drive and checked EVERYTHING off... and it worked! I was so happy. I then configured my new fake Mac, installed a bunch of stuff, and then came to realize that firewire was not working. So I reinstalled with the "Remove Firewire" thingy unchecked. Boom! Firewire worked. Yayyyyy! Then, I noticed that my video was choppy when watching downloaded movies, so my investigation to run a perfect fake mac began here. As it turned out, I did not have any kind of acceleration working on my graphics card. Pooey! So I started the process of trying all the "drivers" and solutions I could find. I edited plists, I tried various injectors, and you name it, I tried it. But... I could not get this card to work to its full potential. After installing OSX at LEAST 20 times I thought, "What if I were to buy an Apple edition of a video card?" I am in a position where I was able to buy one from a supplier for $170.00 CDN who would let me return it for a refund if I was not happy, so I did. I plopped it into the PCIe slot, rebooted, and nothing but jibberish showed up on my screen. So I then reinstalled a couple of times, deselecting everything except for the ATI drivers in the installation options. Still, nothing but little boxes of jibberish showed up on my LCD. Safe boot didn't even work. I gave up. For a while anyhow. I'm a stubborn {censored}! After screwing around with my original Nvidia card to no avail, again, I decided to try installing the ATI card once more. This time, I selected nothing when it came to graphics drivers. I basically used whatever Apple puts on the disc to begin with... I think. Success! So now, I have the exact same box, but with an APPLE edition, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT. Seeing as I can't leave well enough alone, I am now wondering if I could fill my other two slots with 1GB ram sticks without screwing things up, and... What would happen if I upgraded my Core2 Duo to a Quad core? Hmmm. I wonder? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMS Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 well seeing how it was an apple edition card you would not need to select any drivers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1044515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loanstar Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Oh yes, I understand that now but I have not seen anyone else try this yet. I looked on here and could not find a config thus far with an Apple card. Either way, I'm happy and if anyone else wants to try it, I figured I should post the info. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1044538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMS Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Some people flash there "windows" cards with a Mac ROM thus converting it to a "Mac" card giving them the satisfaction of no drivers needed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1044554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
salax Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Very interesting outcome! However, i believe that this is not the same as the flashable situations where you could adapt a PC card to a PPC Mac. What Loanstar could tell us from his experience is if the card gave him video during startup (meaning if he could see all those black-and-white DOS messages from the motherboard when you turn the PC on) I suspect that Apple's recent video cards don't have much difference any more to regular video cards. Plus, there's no older Macs where you can hook 'em up to. Don't forget the fact that Apple's hardware is also usable under Windows (Bootcamp) which makes me believe even more that they're regular cards. Perhaps buying an off-the-shelf HD 2600 XT would behave in the same way. Just speculating there... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1044564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loanstar Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Very interesting outcome! However, i believe that this is not the same as the flashable situations where you could adapt a PC card to a PPC Mac. What Loanstar could tell us from his experience is if the card gave him video during startup (meaning if he could see all those black-and-white DOS messages from the motherboard when you turn the PC on) I suspect that Apple's recent video cards don't have much difference any more to regular video cards. Plus, there's no older Macs where you can hook 'em up to.Don't forget the fact that Apple's hardware is also usable under Windows (Bootcamp) which makes me believe even more that they're regular cards. Perhaps buying an off-the-shelf HD 2600 XT would behave in the same way. Just speculating there... Yes, I can tell you that I was able to see my bios, booting sequence etc, but I was not able to get past the Darwin prompt until I chose not to install any altered drivers. I'm fairly certain that OSX looks for a proprietary bios. I have heard that the Mac edition of ATI and Nvidia cards contain two Video Bios's but I don't know if this is true. A local Apple rep *did* tell me that the cards were still, in fact, proprietary. Does anyone know how confident I should be in installing a Quad Core CPU versus the Core2Duo I have now? It is a 775 socket. Would I just alter the boot.plist to say "CPU= 4"? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1045508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 It should work fine if you upgrade your PC to a quad-core Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/147452-success-on-a-98-pc/#findComment-1045523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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