GFX-EFI string for Nvidia Geforce 8800GT 512MB (G92)

[consolation]

Oh man, you are torturing me!

 

 

 

OK, here are results after I played some time with bios settings and so....

 

FIRST picture is WITH benchmark on, and PCI Express frequency of standard 100MHz.Second one is also WITH benchmark on, but with PCI Express freq set to 107MHz.As you can see it makes quite a difference.In both cases CPU was clocked to 3GHz.

 

You're getting about 30~50% of what you should be scoring. It's almost as if your PCIe bus (100MHz) is being throttled to PCI(33MHz) frequency for some reason.

[cyclonefr]

Here are my benchs, pretty much the same as everybody here except PPZ.

 

@LTL : and if you put your 7300GT, you can play the SAME WoW folder just fine ? Are you sure ?

 

If so, you must have a problem on your 8800 GT, I'd suggest you get a replacement real quick.

 

 

And here is some WoW screenshot in 1280x1024 FSAA 1X, everything else to the MAX (anisotropic x16 etc)

 

Try to get the same FPS I get in this screenshot with anything else than 8800 GT, 'cuz you won't ! And this particular zone is known to be one of the most low FPS zone, even in Windows. If you have WoW, go try at the EXACT same place using your GeForce 7300GT and you'll see how GOOD is the 8800GT compared to it.

 

EDIT : my GeForce isn't o/c at all. It's a plain normal one, one of the first.

Of course i'm not a nvidia spokeperson, it's just i'm fed up about people coming around there and crying cause some {censored} benchs tells him he has a 7300GT result. Yes, Call of Duty 2 is buggy on NVIDIA, so if you wanna play it go buy an ATI....

[PPZ]

@Agrafuese ,

I don't touch anything else except CPU and PCI Express FSB when overclocking.Then setting is 333 x 9 for CPU and 107MHz PCI Express FSB.

 

When everything is default, then I return CPU speed to default (266 x 9) and PCI express FSB to 100MHz.

 

 

I see that my card is not performing as well as it should, so, here are my full specs:

 

Mobo : Gigabyte G33M-DS2R

CPU : Core2Duo E6600 (2.4GHz default)

GPU : Gigabyte GV-NX88T512HP (8800GT/512MB , turboforce edition, factory oc'ed)

RAM : 2 x 1GB Supertalent 667MHz DDR2 (dualchannel)

PSU : Chieftec 550W with active PFC

HDD's : 1 x 500GB, 1 x 320GB , 1 x 250GB , all Seagate, SATA

DVDRW: NEC 7170S (SATA, not PATA)

 

and ofcourse,

 

Kalyway Leopard 10.5.2 (with GFX strings just for GPU)

 

 

In windows card is performing better than most of similar cards, so I exclude possibility od problematic card.Also I don't think CPU is bottleneck, nor any component of the system.I say, meybe I could take 800MHz DDR2, but that is certainly not reason why card is performing worst than it should.

[MacUser2525]

Well I finally managed to get around the same performance as everyone else don't know if it was the editing of the Info.plist of NVinject.kext or the re-install of the Leopard Graphic Update 1.0 as I did both at the same time none the less it works fine now...

[LTL]

Here are my benchs, pretty much the same as everybody here except PPZ.

 

@LTL : and if you put your 7300GT, you can play the SAME WoW folder just fine ? Are you sure ?

 

If so, you must have a problem on your 8800 GT, I'd suggest you get a replacement real quick.

 

 

And here is some WoW screenshot in 1280x1024 FSAA 1X, everything else to the MAX (anisotropic x16 etc)

 

Try to get the same FPS I get in this screenshot with anything else than 8800 GT, 'cuz you won't ! And this particular zone is known to be one of the most low FPS zone, even in Windows. If you have WoW, go try at the EXACT same place using your GeForce 7300GT and you'll see how GOOD is the 8800GT compared to it.

 

EDIT : my GeForce isn't o/c at all. It's a plain normal one, one of the first.

Of course i'm not a nvidia spokeperson, it's just i'm fed up about people coming around there and crying cause some {censored} benchs tells him he has a 7300GT result. Yes, Call of Duty 2 is buggy on NVIDIA, so if you wanna play it go buy an ATI....

 

I have not even taken the 7300GT out of the box... its there as a back up. I would hate to have to go thru the whole process of testing out... but maybe I have to do that to see if the 8800GT has some issues..which is always possible. It crashes my entire system even when I run the tests you guys are running. Maybe I will go trade it in for an Asus or something, its a Gigabyte

 

As well, you guys are lucky to be playing close to WOW servers, out here in Thailand I get horrible latency

[agrafuese]

@PPZ: That is very odd. Have you changed the Info.plist of all your video kext files? I think I listed the ones to change for someone else earlier in this thread. You have to do this even if you are running GFX-EFI. I personally overwrote all of the other Device IDs with mine (instead of adding it to the end of the list like some people do). This is all I can think of right now...

[cyclonefr]

@LTL : Having two GeForce in your PC might be the problem ? I dunno, you need to do tests. And for your information, I don't play WoW anymore, I just use it as a bench Thanks to a friend I can actually connect to the server, but I don't play it

 

Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think there is a more populated aera than Shattrah. Btw with the same settings I get about 250 fps in Ironforge

[pendejerto]

hi, i have a evga 680i, q6600, and a evga 8800gt 512, have the 10.5.2 and graphics update, modified the info.plists with my device id, all working fine with nvinject, played some games, etc. if i remove nvinject, and use the gfx string, boots ok, but when it's going to show the blue screen with the cursor, right after the iowaitingkitquiet string, it shows a black screen, and the monitor goes to sleep,

 

i have modified the plist file with my gfx string, generated a new hex file, and nothing.

 

what could be the problem?

 

with nvinject works fine, without, black screen.

 

thanks

[agrafuese]

did you create the string by yourself or did you use mine or cyclone's string? did you make sure to put the proper device-path in? which kexts did you modify the info.plists for?

[LTL]

@LTL : Having two GeForce in your PC might be the problem ? I dunno, you need to do tests. And for your information, I don't play WoW anymore, I just use it as a bench Thanks to a friend I can actually connect to the server, but I don't play it :)Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think there is a more populated aera than Shattrah. Btw with the same settings I get about 250 fps in Ironforge

Thanks again for your help and feedback, people like you make this community great! Your right I need to do more testing. I don't have a second card in my box, its only that one 8800GT, i'm using your dump, but will try agrafuse's now. I wonder if it is my card? Easy way to figure that out would be to install windows on my machine and see how it performs.I have not had the time to play WoW in a long time...sadly .. it was a lot of fun a few years ago, but now its tough living in Asia and trying to play ... plus work is very demanding I will do some testing today...lazy friday at the office and get back to you ASAPthanks!!!!!Hey guys, should I make any mods under system/library/extensions/GeForice8xxxGLDriver.bundle?Hey guys, should I make any mods under system/library/extensions/GeForice8xxxGLDriver.bundle?Prob a dumb question since i'm wading into unknown waters... should I make any mods under system/library/extensions/GeForice8xxxGLDriver.bundle?

[agrafuese]

Hey LTL, I might be wrong about this, but I don't think my strings will help you if cyclone's are indeed a problem for you. If I'm wrong, let me know. It's a bit of a coincidence because just today I was thinking about updating this thread with a link to cyclone's strings since his are actually from a genuine mac, and mine are just born from a minimal template. His plist has a lot more parameters than mine, and I assume that means they're probably more suited for us. But again, if my strings help you, please let me know and I may change my mind about what I've just said. Haha. Thanks and good luck.

[pendejerto]

did you create the string by yourself or did you use mine or cyclone's string? did you make sure to put the proper device-path in? which kexts did you modify the info.plists for?

 

first used yours, only changed

 

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0xe,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

 

for

 

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0).

 

then used your hex unmoddified and after cyclone hex, and nothing. just black screen.

 

edited the NVDAResman.kext, Geforce.kext and NVDANV50Hal.kext

 

do i need to modify another one?

[agrafuese]

first used yours, only changed

 

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0xe,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

 

for

 

PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x3,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0).

 

then used your hex unmoddified and after cyclone hex, and nothing. just black screen.

 

edited the NVDAResman.kext, Geforce.kext and NVDANV50Hal.kext

 

do i need to modify another one?

 

Wow, I'm kind of stumped. It should work. When you edit the Info.plists in each file are you overwriting the other device IDs with 0x061110de or are you adding it to the end of the line (keeping the old IDs in there)? I overwrote them. I don't know if that makes a difference though. The only other thing I can say is maybe you need to repair permissions? Also, are you clearing cache and rebooting with -f ? These are just some small suggestions. I don't know why it wouldn't be working otherwise, especially since you and I have the same card (EVGA). Personally, I was having the black screen problem when I was trying to use incorrect versions of NVinject.kext (before I switched to the string method). But these strings worked right away for me when I stopped using NVinject. Probably stupid of me to ask this, but you ARE deleting NVinject, right? Oh and what monitor port are you using? Maybe try switching them. I know that I can't plug a single monitor into the right port (when facing the back of your computer) unless I have another monitor plugged into the left port. But for me it just gives me a blue screen, not black, as in your situation.

[PPZ]

@agrafuese ,

No, I didn't modify info.plist files.I tried now but I forgot to modify Geforce.kext and screwed my installation.So, I am reinstalling right now and then I will try again.Can you explain which exactly kexts should be modified and how do we put device id inside.I mean, I know all the procedure, but I want to know in which order you are putting device id.

 

The files I have to modify are NVDAResman.kext, Geforce.kext and NVDANV50Hal.kext , right?

 

Now, my device id iz 0x0611 and revision ID is 0x00a2.Should I put in info.plist in order : 0x061100a2 or 0x00a20611 ? long time ago I had an issue with reversed ID and rev. number, that's why I ask.But back then, it was other vga card...

 

But It's just a thought, how everything was working without modifying those plists? I mean, I had 3D acceleration, and everything was functioning?

[LTL]

Hey LTL, I might be wrong about this, but I don't think my strings will help you if cyclone's are indeed a problem for you. If I'm wrong, let me know. It's a bit of a coincidence because just today I was thinking about updating this thread with a link to cyclone's strings since his are actually from a genuine mac, and mine are just born from a minimal template. His plist has a lot more parameters than mine, and I assume that means they're probably more suited for us. But again, if my strings help you, please let me know and I may change my mind about what I've just said. Haha. Thanks and good luck.

 

Hey CycloneFR and Agrafuese

 

I have big news... MY CARD WAS FAULTY - I wasn't doing anything wrong

 

I put in the 7300 GT i got as a backup and BAM! everything worked perfectly

 

I brought the card back to the shop, they tested it and confirmed that it was faulty

 

They told me I could have a credit and get any card I like... so now I'm going to use the 7300GT for a few days and figure out which card I should get...

 

That leads me to this next question.... WHICH CARD SHOULD I GET???? ATI? NVIDIA? What is the best card to get... And I would like to know what chipsets you guys have... X38? P35? I want to make sure there are no conflicts between the P35 chipset and the 8800GT on OSX since the PCIe bus is not version 2 like in X38 architecture (which is a requirement on the Mac Pro, only the latest Mac Pros can use the 8800GT card, older ones don't have PCIe version 2.)

 

I was leaning toward the 8800GT Asus silent or XFX (of course I could get the Gigabyte again)

 

Other choices are 8600 GT 256, 8800GTS 512, 8800GTS 640,

HD 2400,2600,2900

 

Feedback Gents... i'm not a huge gamer but want dual screen and Warcraft when needed

[cyclonefr]

IMO you should get another 8800 GT. GTS is useless for its price, 3870 is cheaper but isn't as fast (and hasn't official apple support since mac pro uses 8800GT). WoW with 3870 is like running a 8600 GTS so ATI drivers are worse.

 

As you wish And it works perfectly on P35.

[terrancew_hod]

I have the Zotac 8800GT:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814500006

 

it has a 700mhz core clock and 2000mhz memory clock. Also includes adapter for HDMI. With the rebate right now it's $235. No problems thus far and it's getting good reviews.

 

Hopefully I can test some games this weekend and benchmark.

[agrafuese]

I can't remember who else besides PPZ is having problems with their GFX, but if there is anyone else out there: I'll be writing a full tutorial on how to get the GFX-EFI for the 8800GT working. Users are having many similar problems associated with this card all around these forums, so perhaps a step-by-step is in order. It might be a while, as I need to find the time for it, but it will be in the Tutorials section in the forums sometime in the coming week, most likely. I'll post the news in this thread with a link to it.

 

Cheers,

agra

[DWells55]

I have a BFG 8800GT OC flashed with their update BIOS. I downloaded your package, went to the site you linked to, converted the hex string to a plist, edited the deviceid in the plist, converted back to hex, and added the hex string to file which I forget the name of and won't guess at to avoid sounding stupid. I'm a total OSx86 newb, just got the install working today and this was easy to do and worked perfectly. Upon reboot it auto set itself to my monitor's native resolution, QE was enabled and CI was listed as hardware accelerated.

 

Worked perfectly, never done anything like this before, didn't know what I was doing, but I followed the steps. Thanks so much.

[PPZ]

I can't remember who else besides PPZ is having problems with their GFX, but if there is anyone else out there: I'll be writing a full tutorial on how to get the GFX-EFI for the 8800GT working. Users are having many similar problems associated with this card all around these forums, so perhaps a step-by-step is in order. It might be a while, as I need to find the time for it, but it will be in the Tutorials section in the forums sometime in the coming week, most likely. I'll post the news in this thread with a link to it.

 

Cheers,

agra

 

 

Ofcourse, you could just answer my question, but never mind.You decided to write a tutorial I am finishing now installation, as I was out of home 'till now, so will be back with news...

[agrafuese]

Ofcourse, you could just answer my question, but never mind.You decided to write a tutorial I am finishing now installation, as I was out of home 'till now, so will be back with news...

sorry about that. i actually didn't read your whole post at first. you're right about which files to edit the Info.plists for. I also did the other HAL files too (not just 50) The only thing is, you're wrong on the device ID. you're supposed to do device ID + vendor ID, which is 0x061110de. Add that to all of the kexts and be sure to just overwrite the other IDs you see in there, to be safe. make sure NVinject.kext is deleted too. that should be enough info for now. if you can't get it to run, the tutorial will be coming soon.

 

@DWells55: Glad I could help. Have fun with it

[PPZ]

Just a fast report.I did fresh install, modified all the kexts, installed gfx strings again, but no luck.Card is running the same as before.I can't think of anything else.Except those bad results on benchmark, card is working ok.Hardware acceleration, games, applications.Just not as fast as it should be.At least I think it should be faster.Never mind.I have no time to experiment further.I am travelling tomorrow, so I will deal with the card after I come back.Then I will try to drop in some borrowed card with same chipset, but other manufacturer, to see is it card issue.Again I repeat that under windows is working normal.I get better FPS in games under windows than many of other similar cards.That would say or drivers under OS X have problem, or there is some other kind of incompatibility between mobo and card (or OS X and card).Maybe it has to do because my card is PCIx 2.0 compatible? it should not be a problem, since Gigabyte sais it's backward compatible...

[agrafuese]

Yeah it is backwards compatible, so that is not the problem. I don't have 2.0 either.

[LTL]

but you have SLII called Apple up and spoke to an engineer. Told him I had an older Mac Pro and that was thinking about upgrading my VGA to 8800GT and he said that it would only work with the latest Mac Pros because it required PCI x2 to work with OS XI just want to confirm that there are plenty of people using the 8800GT (g92) who also have PCI x1, P35 chipsets, etc. Not to beat a dead horse and in hindsight I may laugh at thinking like this...but its 250$ and I want to get it right. The 40$ 7300GT is running really nice in my machine now and if I could just return the 8800 for now, i would. If I had to do things over, i would also go for a X38 board with PCI x2.But who knows, in a few days I will have another 8800GT as far as I can see for now and it may just be running smooth as butter. Considering the store found a problem with the card, sounds like my problem was the card, not my bus.

Just a fast report.I did fresh install, modified all the kexts, installed gfx strings again, but no luck.Card is running the same as before.I can't think of anything else.Except those bad results on benchmark, card is working ok.Hardware acceleration, games, applications.Just not as fast as it should be.At least I think it should be faster.Never mind.I have no time to experiment further.I am travelling tomorrow, so I will deal with the card after I come back.Then I will try to drop in some borrowed card with same chipset, but other manufacturer, to see is it card issue.Again I repeat that under windows is working normal.I get better FPS in games under windows than many of other similar cards.That would say or drivers under OS X have problem, or there is some other kind of incompatibility between mobo and card (or OS X and card).Maybe it has to do because my card is PCIx 2.0 compatible? it should not be a problem, since Gigabyte sais it's backward compatible...

So your card is the Gigabyte card? Mine was too and gave me horrible issues. I wonder what brand cyclonefr has? I was thinking about getting an Asus

IMO you should get another 8800 GT. GTS is useless for its price, 3870 is cheaper but isn't as fast (and hasn't official apple support since mac pro uses 8800GT). WoW with 3870 is like running a 8600 GTS so ATI drivers are worse.As you wish And it works perfectly on P35.

which brand card do you have?

[agrafuese]

not quite sure what having SLI has to do with anything...? afaik, the only advantage to having SLI is if you intend to run two cards, which i don't...and somehow i doubt OS X on a hackintosh would let me, even if i were that crazy.